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San pedro problems
    #23650171 - 09/16/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

2 of my plants are having some problems with E.D. usually when I turn the lights back on or rotate the plant it perks back up straight.  I think its been about 2 weeks and this one cactus wont get off its side.

Also been having a little problems with them drying out.  I water them fairly often, I always wait until the soil is dry.  I over watered on a couple and found green roots when I transferred it to another pot so I don't see how I would be underwatering on the others.

And I also received a comment on the ones I grew from seed from an aqquantince that they were not san pedro, that the spines were too long.  Never really thought about it before because I thought I had a good vendor but now I'm filled with doubts.  From all the ID photos I could find I still wasn't sure and was hoping someone could point me towards a good book or something.  The threads ive been finding are pretty old and some of the pictures are not showing up, or if its not against the rules let me know what you think it is.

I'm going to keep it regardless of whatever it is just would be nice to know what exactly I'm growing.  That and I was thinking about selling a couple of the plants and don't want to tell them its san pedro only to find out later its not.









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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650179 - 09/16/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

First of all,they need way more light man.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650422 - 09/16/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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2 of my plants are having some problems with E.D.




ED?  So what´s that then??

Their main problem seems to be they are badly etiolated - give them some SUN.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23650439 - 09/16/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

E.D. erectile dysfunction.  Thought it was a funny way of saying the plant wont stand up. 

you think I need more light than 7 cfls and the light from sun?

edit - well ill take your advice and see how things go with some more light.  Just ordered another 2 grow lights and will add that.


Edited by young_deadhead (09/16/16 01:16 PM)


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650597 - 09/16/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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E.D. erectile dysfunction.  Thought it was a funny way of saying the plant wont stand up. 

you think I need more light than 7 cfls and the light from sun?

edit - well ill take your advice and see how things go with some more light.  Just ordered another 2 grow lights and will add that.





He is telling you to put it outside, CFLs wont cut it.  How much natural light is it getting in the window?  If you cannot put them outside, you should move them to a window which gets more light...I dont think the CFLs will make any difference at all, it isn't a weed plant.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: mandrin13]
    #23650620 - 09/16/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

window sill probably gets 8 hours of light maybe a little more.

Outside is not really an option, I'm in ohio and where I can put them outside gets even less light than the windowsill.  I'm in a condo so I have limited space.

I know they don't do well inside but ive heard and read of plenty of people doing it.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650651 - 09/16/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

With that severe etiolation they are clearly NOT getting enough light.  When I grew in Scotland, where the winter days are much shorter than Ohio, my plants were in a greenhouse, heated in winter.  They did quite well.  Not masses of sun in Scotland in winter, but even an overcast sky is way brighter than a CFL indoors.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23650697 - 09/16/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

from what I read lighting requirements go up a lot after the first year?  They are a little over a year old, at least the seedlings are.  Maybe that's why a couple of them aren't doing so well,  all of the others are very healthy at least I think so, good color green no light green spots.  The only thing id say that they all have is some white spots from not enough water.

Also do you guys even think that the one laying down is even san pedro.  Pretty sure the one photo of the cutting I took is the real deal.  Looks a lot like the videos ive seen along with some photos on here.

Ive read some plant nurseries will id, is that probably the best way to figure out what it is for sure?  not sure photos are enough to make a proper id.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650739 - 09/16/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@young_deadhead,

sir, trichocereus grown from seed will often have too narrow of a base to support the heavier plant later in life.  as a result of this, they will often fall over.  then, the whole plant roots sideways on the ground and grows pups.  likely the plant evolved to do this.  one thing that works well is to cut at the base around where it thickens up.  allow it to dry and re-root.  the plant will do better in the long run and the original plant will pup.  also did anyone mention that it needs more light...? 

identifying your plant might be a challenge with the number of varieties out there.  people breed them so what's out there is quite varied.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650750 - 09/16/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I over watered on a couple and found green roots when I transferred it to another pot so I don't see how I would be underwatering on the others.





Roots aren't green.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: El Torcho]
    #23650763 - 09/16/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There is a guy who lives just around the edge of the arctic circle, but his name escapes me at the moment.  Someone here will know, you should search his threads as he is pretty successful growing indoors with natural light, and some supplemental light as well I believe.

Good luck, make due with what you have, hopefully you can turn it around for him


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: El Torcho]
    #23650771 - 09/16/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post or I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not (its the internet hard to tell).  But what I ment to say is I don't see how I was underwatering to get the white spots when I found 2 of them had root rot from over watering when I repotted them.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: mandrin13]
    #23650775 - 09/16/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

well I hope someone will chime in because the search feature here is shit or I'm just incompetent.  probably the latter of the two though.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: young_deadhead]
    #23650843 - 09/16/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Found it, his name is "`intelligentlife", you will have to dig but there are posts he made on how he deals with low light etc.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: mandrin13]
    #23650889 - 09/16/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Found it, his name is "`intelligentlife", you will have to dig but there are posts he made on how he deals with low light etc.




He hasnt been around in quite somw time. But like most, they fall in thw cracks and join thw fray. Good guy. Sad he isnt around anymore.


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Re: San pedro problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23651159 - 09/16/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah he had some great stuff, but the posts are out there, I remember a few that were huge, full of great info, though a bit tough to digest.  I was amazed at his success growing up there.  These things can literally almost grow anywhere.


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