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Why do mammals sleep?
    #23650161 - 09/16/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sleep. Sleep does not rejuvenate...
Sleep, sleep is only a pause from waking life...
We do not sleep to do something..
We sleep to not do ...


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp]
    #23650168 - 09/16/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sleep is very restorative
Regineration at its peak without sleep muscle will deteriorate as well as the mind


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23650252 - 09/16/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes, and sometimes it is a retreat, especially when advance is not working.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23650287 - 09/16/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Stop doing anything when you sleep..

That is when it restores. :wink:


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp]
    #23652225 - 09/17/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well the obvious answer is because they get tired.

As to why it's biologically necessary, we don't have the answers yet.
Investigation goes on into dreaming which is an important aspect.
And: how do the brain states of advanced meditators allow them to sleep less?
Are they less emotionally stressed and so need less sleep, or are some physiological or neural processes, unique to meditation, the relevant factors?
Then there are animals like dolphins that can't stop moving during sleep as they need to surface to breathe. How do they sleep while moving?
There are many other curiosities associated with sleep.
So it's an interesting field to research


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp] * 1
    #23662682 - 09/20/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When I don't sleep....my mental faculties diminish at minimum a very steep slope possibly exponential....

if that's not a sign of "rejuvenation" as well as hydrating and fueling body with sustenance....then I don't know what is.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp]
    #23663283 - 09/20/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Gomp said:
Stop doing anything when you sleep..

That is when it restores. :wink:




I like to dream when I sleep tho, it restores my imagination in what doing doesn't :gomp:


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: TameMe]
    #23663311 - 09/20/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When I don't sleep....my mental faculties diminish at minimum a very steep slope possibly exponential....

if that's not a sign of "rejuvenation" as well as hydrating and fueling body with sustenance....then I don't know what is.



Yea I can be proof, I didn't get shit for sleep and I can tell you my brain's firing at  :spun:  if that lol. Sleep is amazing when you get it. :feelsweirdman:


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp]
    #23663928 - 09/21/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sleep helps us assimilate the massive amount of stimulation we absorb every day.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Hobozen] * 1
    #23674352 - 09/24/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Gomp said:
Stop doing anything when you sleep..

That is when it restores. :wink:




I like to dream when I sleep tho, it restores my imagination in what doing doesn't :gomp:




You can dream when you are awake.. Daydreaming..

Dreaming is not a part of doing..

So I stand by what I wrote! .. :p


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp] * 1
    #23675648 - 09/25/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

because the body and mind builds up more and more resistance to the perception of the elements it's involved in, which then in turn tune the intellect, and the restorative functions of the body, off, resulting in a lack of affect and ratiocination. the body needs rest, so it can restore it's sense of self, apart from the world. you dream as you mentally cleanse yourself, so to speak...sounds like woo, but i do believe that even your body perceiving any kind of foreign body (like a cold) will change the the process of the restoration of the body, and mind, during sleep; as your body and mind are aware of all these things, and it helps sort out it's sense of self (the psyche) to abandon the world of the senses for awhile....


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23680495 - 09/26/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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because the body and mind builds up more and more resistance to the perception of the elements it's involved in, which then in turn tune the intellect, and the restorative functions of the body, off, resulting in a lack of affect and ratiocination. the body needs rest, so it can restore it's sense of self, apart from the world. you dream as you mentally cleanse yourself, so to speak...sounds like woo, but i do believe that even your body perceiving any kind of foreign body (like a cold) will change the the process of the restoration of the body, and mind, during sleep; as your body and mind are aware of all these things, and it helps sort out it's sense of self (the psyche) to abandon the world of the senses for awhile....




What then off awaken dreams? :p


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: Gomp]
    #23680585 - 09/26/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you are less resistant to the perception of the elements your mind is involved in...already...why do you think you dream at all? i'm gonna leave that answer up to you, but my dialectic seems cogent to me.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23682299 - 09/27/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have had lifelong sleep problems. Sleeping on average 4.2 hours a night for the past decade since it's been recorded (cpap machine logs it for me). Losing an hour of sleep is a big deal to me, it's a quarter of my sleep.

Sleep is definitely rejuvenating. Don't believe me, go without for 3-4 days and test yourself mentally. Then sleep and retest.

Sleep is quite misunderstood many. It is not necessary, but greatly wanted by the body and mind. Without it, you end up in a weird quasi-awake quasi-dream state at some point where daydreams can become less fantastical and more realistic, where as your perception of waking life takes a slightly more dreamy, unreal quality.

I have had some very strange times with sleep deprivation, and you can actually get by with very little to no sleep if you take breaks and meditation helps to give break time for your mind. Stimulants of course fuck with all this, in talking about natural sleep deprivation.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: nuentoter]
    #23682806 - 09/27/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you have a machine that let's you know how long you've slept? i want one. my ass just had another night (three-four in a row now?) where it was just, instead of dreams, which usually keep me up, given my history, instead, i was just completely unable to shut off my mind, and it just doesn't shut up, all night; by the end of sleep, i decide to get up after a hours of basically listening to the minutia of my mind all through the short night...and i've been hitting the sack early, too, and getting up round 4-5 o clock, and that's from me just forcing myself to stay in bed.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23683527 - 09/27/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I suffer from mental chatter. This is not the reason for my sleep problems but has definitely been an antagonist.

Meditation dude. Practices of acknowledging those thoughts, and moving past them for the time being. Realizing that not every thought is pertinent to this moment right now, decisively must say, Not Now, and let the thought pass through.


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Re: Why do mammals sleep? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23692778 - 09/30/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing causes more frustration than believing one has a "sleep problem"

The more aggravated we get when we believe we don't sleep enough, the less we sleep.

We can become addicted to our monkey-mind agitation that "something is wrong"

If our body wants to sleep for 3 or 5 hours, so be it.

Relax. Enjoy a reading a book. Resistance is futile.


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