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What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes
    #23650114 - 09/16/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings. i have never grown mushies before and am trying to gain as much knowledge before starting. in the beginning i was leaning towards the PF tek and understood it quite well. however i found out about the bulk monotub method and am  more interested in that now as it yields more. the thing i dont understand is what is grain? what is this talk of rye? how does this differ from the PF tek? Instead of using brown rice flour and half pint jars what are you meant to do? i have not the slightest idea what the fuck is going on and would appreciate a simple explaination/instruction greatly.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650140 - 09/16/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php

Check threads from the past five years or so, and check the trusted cultivator box.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650141 - 09/16/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Greg]
    #23650144 - 09/16/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Might be helpful to look up a grain Tek and the pf TEK and compare. :shrug:


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650146 - 09/16/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Greg]
    #23650147 - 09/16/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes but do you use it in the same way as you would the BRF? In pf tek you put BRF, vermiculite and water in half pint jars. how big are the jars meant to be for this and what are you suppose to put in it?


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650150 - 09/16/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yes but do you use it in the same way as you would the BRF? In pf tek you put BRF, vermiculite and water in half pint jars. how big are the jars meant to be for this and what are you suppose to put in it?



If you're not reading the guide or teks then why would you read it if we copied and pasted it for you?

Links in signature go to all the info you need


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650151 - 09/16/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You spawn grains to bulk substrates of CVG in either monotub/dubtub format or trays.

Generally done in qt jars.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Mad Season] * 1
    #23650178 - 09/16/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: amidogen]
    #23650198 - 09/16/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well i apologise if you think i havent been reading the links because i have. i have quite a good understanding now of grains and have proceeded to researching about grain inoculation etc. your help is appreciated and i assure you i am serious.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650227 - 09/16/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When you think you've done a bunch of research.....keep reading and read more....I've been reading for 6 months and have a lot of it processed in my head, but when it comes down to it actually doing them properly has been a bit of a learning curve....been more failures than success full attempts.... But I think I got a chance for success this time


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23650232 - 09/16/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It took me 6 years to get to where I am today. Though 2 of those years I didn't grow.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23650235 - 09/16/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes i think the first step is to get some sleep haha the information is becoming increasingly agitating as it is often overwhelming


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650279 - 09/16/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well you're asking simple questions like "What is grain" when you could be asking real questions that a 5 year old couldn't answer... :shrug:  So, could be interpreted as agitating I guess.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23650295 - 09/16/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did I annoy you when I joined inoc? I tried not to ask dumb questions....I'm gonna go back through my posts and see how many people I pissed off


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23650307 - 09/16/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm more annoyed by questions that somebody could just ask the most ignorant person in their family and still get the correct answer, than strictly cultivation related questions.

Like... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain

Shockingly difficult.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23650310 - 09/16/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well look, perhaps im overthinking it as i thought everything even "grain" has a more complex definition behind it when used in the context of shroom growing. Apparently not.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: kaius711]
    #23650313 - 09/16/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good noob questions are.
How do my cakes look?
Which mushroom should I clone?
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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23650328 - 09/16/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes i think the first step is to get some sleep haha the information is becoming increasingly agitating as it is often overwhelming




This is very true, but it means you're learning. The best favor you can do for yourself is to search for your questions and read multiple relevant results. Only make a thread to ask if you cannot find anything related to your search, or your specific question has not been asked.

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Well you're asking simple questions like "What is grain" when you could be asking real questions that a 5 year old couldn't answer... :shrug:  So, could be interpreted as agitating I guess.




Instead of asking 'what is grain?' you could have asked something like 'how do I know my grain is properly dry for pressure cooking?' which would show you have at least done some research for yourself. However there are other threads that go over this very question that you have also been linked to in this thread. Keep searching. It's a little more acceptable to ask a simple question if you are in the middle of a process because it at least shows you are putting in effort.
I would not consider 'what is grain?' a dumb question, because this could open your mind to other alternatives to rye berries or wild bird seed that people often get stuck on. Knowing what grain is and its general properties have allowed other cultivators to work with other spawn materials like millet and oats etc. This however, is still covered in other threads.
Basic questions like these have been answered over and over again so there's no need to make a new thread for them. Search more. Asking more in depth questions will get you better responses.

TL;DR search more, read more, ask more specific questions.


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Re: What is "grain" and how is it different to PF cakes [Re: cr1s1s]
    #23650354 - 09/16/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, to be fair, there is one REALLY good time to say "What is grain?"

Right after Alex Trebek says "Whole these make up 95% of household cereals and pet food."


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