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ABORT, ABORT!
    #23649953 - 09/16/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So some odd say 25-50 trips under my belt varying in different psychedelics. Ive had some pretty hairy trips but have always had to ride the bad ones out.

My maximum dose of LSD has roughly been around 400-500ug.

Having finally acquired the access to xanax bars I purchased a few last night. I'm well aware these are a prime choice for trippers as an "Abort" button.

Say hypothetically I ingest 700ug of LSD tonight. Say hypothetically things get too intense and I start panicking and drifting into bad trip territory. The bars I have are 2mg a piece and I have a handful of them.

How many mgs of xanax to properly abort and how quick does it kick in? Will it COMPLETELY kill the trip in its entirety or just mellow it out? I want to ride the waves unless I'm in a state where I HAVE to abort. Can i get some input on this?


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23649982 - 09/16/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We cant give Xanax dosage advice man. You could look for someone describing how much they take throughout the forums, then the liability is on you.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23649990 - 09/16/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.

When referencing psychs ^


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23649994 - 09/16/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Watch out for fake xanax's


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23650002 - 09/16/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

^ Truth, unless you're getting them from someone with a scrip they're probably fake. Likely still alprazolam, just produced in a dirty Chinese factory and pressed in someone's garage. Could be up to 4mg in it. Could be fentanyl (unlikely, but it has happened). Be careful.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: nowhere]
    #23650022 - 09/16/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes many fake presses do contain alprazolam but many do not


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #23650049 - 09/16/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No pills Bro...fucking deal with it...man up:nojustno:

...if u can't handle it...don't do it...your dose isn't even that high...jeez...don't be a pussy!:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23650065 - 09/16/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.

I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23650194 - 09/16/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I trip super hard...nice need for pills...shit will simmer down soon enough!..anyways, you're going to be all goofed out regardless like you pop some pills might chill down the intensity but then you're just going to be f***** up half on psychs and half on pills.. yeah go take care of some responsibilities on that:firstladyofapproval:

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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23650238 - 09/16/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.

When referencing psychs ^




McKenna never really owned up to how terrifying and dangerous he secretly knew psychedelics to be though. There's a certain logic in what he was saying- push into ego death and surrender- but it's still a silly statement tantamount to when shit hits the fan take more acid!

I don't think it's really a good idea to dose with Xanax around as most trips can get scary and the tendency will just be to bail at the first sign of trouble instead of working through the instructive nightmare. Which with a dose like that would probably be early.

Remember it will rip open your subconscious and smear it bloodily all over your wakened consciousness. That means everything you fear and are afraid of, meaning death in all probability. Be sure you're ready to work through that shit cause it can get very real...

If you think 700ug (too much in my opinion) will maybe cause you problems enough to need a Xanax then it's probably best not to do it. 300-500 should be enough for anyone anyhow, and if you want to go deeper but stay safer psychologically use DMT for it finishes much quicker!

Just be careful dude, LSD is a very powerful and potentially dangerous substance.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: wolf8312] * 1
    #23650387 - 09/16/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive taken 2mg of klonopins to stop a mushroom trip and a 1p lsd 200mic trip, killed it within an hour still feel residual from the doses but the head space and visuals are basically gone within a hour


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23650915 - 09/16/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.

I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?




Yeah... I agree on having to man up the trip and take it, good or bad trip. But is also important to have an eject button, aka benzo :P


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #23651033 - 09/16/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly. There is no point of taking a psychedelic to transform your life if you arent going to complete the transition but sometimes you find yourself in a bad situation and you just need to be as normal as possible as soon as possible.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23651093 - 09/16/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

xanax will calm you down and reduce some a lot of the effects but it won't completely kill the trip.  i know people here will give me shit for it but sometimes i like to eat acid when I'm on xanax, its like a totally different drug.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: LeeHarvOz]
    #23651221 - 09/16/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've never used any kind of trip abort. Maybe ghb but it actually helped the acid trip


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23651351 - 09/16/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ghb is GABAnergic just like benzos and alcohol so it probably makes trips less intense.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23651367 - 09/16/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Never had benzos whe nI used to do high doses of LSD. Diddnt even know about that back then hahah. As BANANA.MAN says, you gotta ride it out sometimes.  Besides, it builds character :wink:
I always rode out the bad trps, where it was uncomfortable, scary or depressing there was still something to grasp from it that you may not have realized about yourself or the world. Sometimes the bad experiences make you learn more than the good ones. Atleast with my experience my "bad trips" have always been the ones that showed me the most..


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: SonicTitan] * 1
    #23651721 - 09/16/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

for anything 500ug and under, one bar lessens the effects to the point where I can hold a conversation and will eventually let me go to sleep after an hour or two.

Once I get into the 700+ range I need two bars but that completely knocks me out pretty quickly.

I try not to abort my trips but sometimes you need to. I've talked about it before on this forum, but I had a really bad experience when I just went too far with my dosage and just nearly called 911 because I was absolutely convinced I was going to die. It's not like I was a novice, I had dropped at least 30 times before that experience but nothing could have prepared me for that.

Ever since then I try to always trip with a benzo near by, as I have even more extreme anxiety when dosing than usual after that one extreme experience. At the very least it gives me peace of mind going in knowing that if things go south for any reason I have an eject button.

I'm a little disappointed to see discrimination against people's method's of handling bad trips or just tripping in general on this forum. I always thought that this of all places would be a safe haven for everyone to accept one another and come together seeing as how most of us have "seen beyond" and see how pointless that kind of shit is. What is wrong with taking a benzo to stop a bad trip or to go asleep at the tail end of it? Why is this grounds to say someone can't handle their shit, has a lack of character, or doesn't deserve the lessons these drugs give? I can't fathom how here of all places there is an air of elitism, I expect more from the community that convinced me to experiment with psychedelics years ago which resulted in a number of life changing experiences. :frown:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: xThunder]
    #23651772 - 09/16/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not against it, especially for helping sleep at the end of a trip. I just feel that sometimes the negative can also be good. Someone might be getting scared of a trip that may end up being an eye opening soul serching experience. Also, alot of the people who "abort" their trip end up doing it within the first 3 hours which I feel is not enough time to gauge where the trip is going to take you. Comeups can be fucking intense but they always smooth out into the peak. I just suggest waiting because Ive had some of the most intense beautiful and life alterting trips where the first 3 hours were complete insanity and uncontrollable.
Try meditating next time you feel a bad trip comming, i like going outside and feeling the breeze and closing my eyes and just letting everything flow through me. Keeping a nice steady breathing pattern and my eyes closed. It works every time for me.
Mike is right tho, set and setting. I dont think the coke really affected OP's trip outside of maybe overthinking which I have been guilty of myself while tripping anf getting paranoid about something.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23652509 - 09/17/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Never had benzos whe nI used to do high doses of LSD. Diddnt even know about that back then hahah. As BANANA.MAN says, you gotta ride it out sometimes.  Besides, it builds character :wink:
I always rode out the bad trps, where it was uncomfortable, scary or depressing there was still something to grasp from it that you may not have realized about yourself or the world. Sometimes the bad experiences make you learn more than the good ones. Atleast with my experience my "bad trips" have always been the ones that showed me the most..




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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23652544 - 09/17/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.


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    #23652551 - 09/17/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its far more recreational than mushrooms but it still carries a high level of introspection and self analysis and so on. Ive had some pretty profound experiences on LSD that mushrooms wouldnt be able to produce.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23652603 - 09/17/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree sonic titan it was mostly just bad planning and bad judgement on my part having all of those inner conscious thoughts about the cocaine interaction. it just spiraled from anxiety to uncomfortable to downright psychedelic hell that was spiraling into itself with panic. Just bad setting. I still made good of the experience and am going to integrate it positively. I almost lost my head last night. Those Xanax saved my mind. the despair that was looming through my mind ripping my room apart frantically looking for them was destroying me and every second longer it took to find the baggy the trip grew negatively in agony. I don't know what my mind would have went through if I hadn't have taken atleast a half a bar. I was starting to freak out and Id consider myself fairly experienced with psychs


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: xThunder]
    #23652836 - 09/17/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's not elitism Bro....It's respecting the power and potential of shrooms and LSD...know your dose....know your setting...know your mindset..

  Personally... I think pills are a bunch of corporate poison from THE MAN...I have seen that shit destroy people..



  No offense...but to use that shit is a str8 out insult to the beauty of these amazing substances...like shitting on a flower...

  Unless you really really need pills under doctors supervision this s*** is absolute b******* as far as I'm concerned....

  I want to see people being healthy, strong, and intellectual. Let's explore realms and spread the luv so we can further the psychedelic agenda...:wonka:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23652858 - 09/17/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It was my first time experimenting with the combination of cocaine+LSD man. I kind of had a doubt it wouldn't mix right from the start. That trip was destined to fail before I even put the blotters on my tongue. Bad mindset. Bad setting. My first bad trip with LSD out of probably 50 or so times ingesting the substance. Not that I NEEDED the Xanax at all. I probably could have rode it out. But fuck it started to loom into agony and despair. I rode it as long as I could handle it without having a freakout and waking the whole house up.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23652862 - 09/17/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds rough....:llamastare:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: LeeHarvOz]
    #23652867 - 09/17/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.





...OMG...luv that blotter pic....my bro got some "make America trip again" blotters lol!:canthelpbutlaugh:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #23652939 - 09/17/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree sonic titan it was mostly just bad planning and bad judgement on my part having all of those inner conscious thoughts about the cocaine interaction. it just spiraled from anxiety to uncomfortable to downright psychedelic hell that was spiraling into itself with panic. Just bad setting. I still made good of the experience and am going to integrate it positively. I almost lost my head last night. Those Xanax saved my mind. the despair that was looming through my mind ripping my room apart frantically looking for them was destroying me and every second longer it took to find the baggy the trip grew negatively in agony. I don't know what my mind would have went through if I hadn't have taken atleast a half a bar. I was starting to freak out and Id consider myself fairly experienced with psychs



Yea man, 99% of the time its all in our minds when we freak on psychs like LSD or mushrooms. There are lasting effects from coke that may have affected your trip but where you have experience with acid I dont think coke would really throw off your trip that much. Which is why I chalked it up to bad mind set at the time of dosing and too much uncertainty going through your head. Its all good tho man, we all have been there before. LSD can go either way. I seem to have very good trips now but back when I was a teen my acid trips were very wild.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: AkashicExplorer] * 1
    #23653458 - 09/17/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.

I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?




Yeah... I agree on having to man up the trip and take it, good or bad trip. But is also important to have an eject button, aka benzo :P



I personally have never even tried a benzo. I do keep beer with me but i never drink that until the comedown unless im tripping with friends. But if someone feels the need to be prepared to spring into action incase shit goes down i dont see why you should roast them for it and act like you are terrence mckenna himself becaue you dont need pills.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23653773 - 09/17/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just knowing you have the Xanax to calm the trip can make the world of difference in an overwhelming trip.

I'm one of the weird ones on shroomery though. I used to love taking benzos with LSD back in the day. It had no dulling effect and killed the come up anxiety.


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    #23653815 - 09/17/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

NO BAD TRIPS!! Just very very difficult ones. Lol, at least that's what I like to say.  Actually haven't really had either since I educated myself.  Only "bad" trip I've ever had was when I was young and dumb and thought I stupefied myself for life on shrooms lol. Only other time was when I smoked way too much for my tolerance on cid.  Rode it out with my girl, who was in the exact same position.  We found a nice quite place to just breathe and ride the tidal waves of adrenaline.  All in all we both came out perfectly sane and learned a lot from it.  Only times I've ever taken benzos with a psychedelic, is way after I'm done tripping on cid.  I get spun out like a mother fucker and still cant sleep more than 24 hours later.  Sometimes I have to take something just to finally kill the residual effects that are keeping me up.

Anyways, my advice is to educate yourself, know your limits, and plan for set and setting.  If you have already done all those things then you will be fine.  And if you still can't avoid a shitty situation while tripping then yea, you may need to take some benzos so you can deal with it.

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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: Sky Walker]
    #23653990 - 09/17/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you're getting robbed or having a buddy go absolutely nuts,or any branch of those two situations, those are the only two times I'd even consider taking a benzo to kill my trip. Mainly because I can't trip often with my work life and to always look back on that experience wondering what could have been would annoy me way more than just roughing out my trip.


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    #23654110 - 09/17/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Just knowing you have the Xanax to calm the trip can make the world of difference in an overwhelming trip.

I'm one of the weird ones on shroomery though. I used to love taking benzos with LSD back in the day. It had no dulling effect and killed the come up anxiety.



The anxiety is part of it so it does have a dulling effect if it takes away anxiety. First of all at the end of the trip you feel like I can make it through anything and I feel great. Ive also had trips where i just had a full on physical panic attack because of thinking about my behaviours and problems in my life and it made me so uncomfortable that i needed to change.

But i can see how on one trip you would want to have the full on psychedelic experience and on one you want to use the phych to see beuty in the world and help with creativity or sociability. Thats sounds pretty useful. You could use psychedelics in different ways.

I have a friend who takes low doses of shrooms and gets really drunk. He says its like a different drug in some ways. Maybe i will try it.


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23654147 - 09/17/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea let me get one of those normal real fast pills to yea yea! Yourself can be your best calmer of all, but it never hurts to be prepared. I wouldn't worry to much unless you are taking much higher doses. Ahhhh people get too worked up and worried about cid or shrooms. They are pretty safe you know. I personally like shrooms better because you see the process & with the cid it's a toss-up. Peace & Love


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: LeeHarvOz]
    #23654168 - 09/17/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.



Yes me too!! Being "Man Made" was the culprit. Shrooms Rule Cid is right up dere too!!


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23655292 - 09/18/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)






I have a friend who takes low doses of shrooms and gets really drunk. He says its like a different drug in some ways. Maybe i will try it.




....seriously?:facepalm3: do u like puke in your pesto?...total insult to the substance....:llamastare:


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23655867 - 09/18/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You never know u til you try. I thought it was a waste of time and shrooms so i never did it but clearly there is a reason he did it more than once so maybe ill try it and love it.

Why exactly didnt you like it?


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    #23656121 - 09/18/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive drank on mush many times. I dont mind it at all, usually no more than like 6 or 8 beer but its just adding more to the bodyload, I never found it dulled the mushrooms really. Especially if you drink after dosing I find it just feels like a more drunken shroom buzz. Potential to puke is way higher tho hahaha
I used to like it tho, I would never call it a disgrace to mushrooms because everyone looks for something different in a high/buzz. Whos to say what they do to get fucked up is any more wrong than what we do? I personally only snort my MDMA, i rarely eat it but people say its a waste but thats exactly the high I want from it so whos to say I wasted anything?


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23656227 - 09/18/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.

When referencing psychs ^




I wonder if he made this statement before or after he took too much, had a horrific experience and abandoned their use... :wink:


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    #23656230 - 09/18/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Alcohol should reduce the body load. For me the bad physical sensations come from the muscle tension which alcolhol releives. I always drink on the comedown so i can sleep and give my muscles a break from the tension and my nerves a break from the stress.

Unless you mean bodyhigh. To me a body load is uncomfortable while a body high is pleasent but some people use the term "body load" differently


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    #23656246 - 09/18/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I refer to it as both load and high. I feel it makes me far more floppy haha I'm already jellow on mushrooms and booze just intensifies it. I never have a hard time sleeping after mushrooms. Always nicely relaxed after my trips and ready for a good sleep.


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    #23787508 - 10/31/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Always have nitros oxide to hand.  Have a balloon and it gives you five minutes clarity before the trip comes back


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    #23787604 - 10/31/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Always have nitros oxide to hand.  Have a balloon and it gives you five minutes clarity before the trip comes back



Exactly this is what i always tell people. It gibes you a brak from the trip without dulling the whole trip. Plus its a great combo


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23787644 - 10/31/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Always have nitros oxide to hand.  Have a balloon and it gives you five minutes clarity before the trip comes back



Exactly this is what i always tell people. It gibes you a brak from the trip without dulling the whole trip. Plus its a great combo




Best combo is Noz, Mushrooms and Changa


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