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LeeHarvOz
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does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.
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SonicTitan


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Its far more recreational than mushrooms but it still carries a high level of introspection and self analysis and so on. Ive had some pretty profound experiences on LSD that mushrooms wouldnt be able to produce.
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new2shroomzz
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I agree sonic titan it was mostly just bad planning and bad judgement on my part having all of those inner conscious thoughts about the cocaine interaction. it just spiraled from anxiety to uncomfortable to downright psychedelic hell that was spiraling into itself with panic. Just bad setting. I still made good of the experience and am going to integrate it positively. I almost lost my head last night. Those Xanax saved my mind. the despair that was looming through my mind ripping my room apart frantically looking for them was destroying me and every second longer it took to find the baggy the trip grew negatively in agony. I don't know what my mind would have went through if I hadn't have taken atleast a half a bar. I was starting to freak out and Id consider myself fairly experienced with psychs
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voodoochild1000
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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: xThunder]
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It's not elitism Bro....It's respecting the power and potential of shrooms and LSD...know your dose....know your setting...know your mindset..
Personally... I think pills are a bunch of corporate poison from THE MAN...I have seen that shit destroy people..
No offense...but to use that shit is a str8 out insult to the beauty of these amazing substances...like shitting on a flower...
Unless you really really need pills under doctors supervision this s*** is absolute b******* as far as I'm concerned....
I want to see people being healthy, strong, and intellectual. Let's explore realms and spread the luv so we can further the psychedelic agenda...
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new2shroomzz
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It was my first time experimenting with the combination of cocaine+LSD man. I kind of had a doubt it wouldn't mix right from the start. That trip was destined to fail before I even put the blotters on my tongue. Bad mindset. Bad setting. My first bad trip with LSD out of probably 50 or so times ingesting the substance. Not that I NEEDED the Xanax at all. I probably could have rode it out. But fuck it started to loom into agony and despair. I rode it as long as I could handle it without having a freakout and waking the whole house up.
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voodoochild1000
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Sounds rough....
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voodoochild1000
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LeeHarvOz said: does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.
...OMG...luv that blotter pic....my bro got some "make America trip again" blotters lol!
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SonicTitan


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new2shroomzz said: I agree sonic titan it was mostly just bad planning and bad judgement on my part having all of those inner conscious thoughts about the cocaine interaction. it just spiraled from anxiety to uncomfortable to downright psychedelic hell that was spiraling into itself with panic. Just bad setting. I still made good of the experience and am going to integrate it positively. I almost lost my head last night. Those Xanax saved my mind. the despair that was looming through my mind ripping my room apart frantically looking for them was destroying me and every second longer it took to find the baggy the trip grew negatively in agony. I don't know what my mind would have went through if I hadn't have taken atleast a half a bar. I was starting to freak out and Id consider myself fairly experienced with psychs
Yea man, 99% of the time its all in our minds when we freak on psychs like LSD or mushrooms. There are lasting effects from coke that may have affected your trip but where you have experience with acid I dont think coke would really throw off your trip that much. Which is why I chalked it up to bad mind set at the time of dosing and too much uncertainty going through your head. Its all good tho man, we all have been there before. LSD can go either way. I seem to have very good trips now but back when I was a teen my acid trips were very wild.
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BANANA.MAN
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AkashicExplorer said:
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BANANA.MAN said: Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.
I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?
Yeah... I agree on having to man up the trip and take it, good or bad trip. But is also important to have an eject button, aka benzo :P
I personally have never even tried a benzo. I do keep beer with me but i never drink that until the comedown unless im tripping with friends. But if someone feels the need to be prepared to spring into action incase shit goes down i dont see why you should roast them for it and act like you are terrence mckenna himself becaue you dont need pills.
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dcthestar
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Just knowing you have the Xanax to calm the trip can make the world of difference in an overwhelming trip.
I'm one of the weird ones on shroomery though. I used to love taking benzos with LSD back in the day. It had no dulling effect and killed the come up anxiety.
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Sky Walker
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NO BAD TRIPS!! Just very very difficult ones. Lol, at least that's what I like to say. Actually haven't really had either since I educated myself. Only "bad" trip I've ever had was when I was young and dumb and thought I stupefied myself for life on shrooms lol. Only other time was when I smoked way too much for my tolerance on cid. Rode it out with my girl, who was in the exact same position. We found a nice quite place to just breathe and ride the tidal waves of adrenaline. All in all we both came out perfectly sane and learned a lot from it. Only times I've ever taken benzos with a psychedelic, is way after I'm done tripping on cid. I get spun out like a mother fucker and still cant sleep more than 24 hours later. Sometimes I have to take something just to finally kill the residual effects that are keeping me up.
Anyways, my advice is to educate yourself, know your limits, and plan for set and setting. If you have already done all those things then you will be fine. And if you still can't avoid a shitty situation while tripping then yea, you may need to take some benzos so you can deal with it.
Good vibes to ya!
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AstralAndrew
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If you're getting robbed or having a buddy go absolutely nuts,or any branch of those two situations, those are the only two times I'd even consider taking a benzo to kill my trip. Mainly because I can't trip often with my work life and to always look back on that experience wondering what could have been would annoy me way more than just roughing out my trip.
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BANANA.MAN
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dcthestar said: Just knowing you have the Xanax to calm the trip can make the world of difference in an overwhelming trip.
I'm one of the weird ones on shroomery though. I used to love taking benzos with LSD back in the day. It had no dulling effect and killed the come up anxiety.
The anxiety is part of it so it does have a dulling effect if it takes away anxiety. First of all at the end of the trip you feel like I can make it through anything and I feel great. Ive also had trips where i just had a full on physical panic attack because of thinking about my behaviours and problems in my life and it made me so uncomfortable that i needed to change.
But i can see how on one trip you would want to have the full on psychedelic experience and on one you want to use the phych to see beuty in the world and help with creativity or sociability. Thats sounds pretty useful. You could use psychedelics in different ways.
I have a friend who takes low doses of shrooms and gets really drunk. He says its like a different drug in some ways. Maybe i will try it.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (09/17/16 08:58 PM)
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majicman30
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Yea let me get one of those normal real fast pills to yea yea! Yourself can be your best calmer of all, but it never hurts to be prepared. I wouldn't worry to much unless you are taking much higher doses. Ahhhh people get too worked up and worried about cid or shrooms. They are pretty safe you know. I personally like shrooms better because you see the process & with the cid it's a toss-up. Peace & Love
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majicman30
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LeeHarvOz said: does anyone else find LSD to be purely recreational? i have never had a spiritual, enlightening or educational trip on LSD, mushrooms however is a colmpetely different story.
Yes me too!! Being "Man Made" was the culprit. Shrooms Rule Cid is right up dere too!!
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voodoochild1000
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I have a friend who takes low doses of shrooms and gets really drunk. He says its like a different drug in some ways. Maybe i will try it.
....seriously? do u like puke in your pesto?...total insult to the substance....
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BANANA.MAN
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You never know u til you try. I thought it was a waste of time and shrooms so i never did it but clearly there is a reason he did it more than once so maybe ill try it and love it.
Why exactly didnt you like it?
Edited by BANANA.MAN (09/18/16 02:26 PM)
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SonicTitan


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Ive drank on mush many times. I dont mind it at all, usually no more than like 6 or 8 beer but its just adding more to the bodyload, I never found it dulled the mushrooms really. Especially if you drink after dosing I find it just feels like a more drunken shroom buzz. Potential to puke is way higher tho hahaha I used to like it tho, I would never call it a disgrace to mushrooms because everyone looks for something different in a high/buzz. Whos to say what they do to get fucked up is any more wrong than what we do? I personally only snort my MDMA, i rarely eat it but people say its a waste but thats exactly the high I want from it so whos to say I wasted anything?
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Duncan Rowhl
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The Mycologist said: I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.
When referencing psychs ^
I wonder if he made this statement before or after he took too much, had a horrific experience and abandoned their use...
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BANANA.MAN
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Alcohol should reduce the body load. For me the bad physical sensations come from the muscle tension which alcolhol releives. I always drink on the comedown so i can sleep and give my muscles a break from the tension and my nerves a break from the stress.
Unless you mean bodyhigh. To me a body load is uncomfortable while a body high is pleasent but some people use the term "body load" differently
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