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new2shroomzz
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ABORT, ABORT!
#23649953 - 09/16/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So some odd say 25-50 trips under my belt varying in different psychedelics. Ive had some pretty hairy trips but have always had to ride the bad ones out.
My maximum dose of LSD has roughly been around 400-500ug.
Having finally acquired the access to xanax bars I purchased a few last night. I'm well aware these are a prime choice for trippers as an "Abort" button.
Say hypothetically I ingest 700ug of LSD tonight. Say hypothetically things get too intense and I start panicking and drifting into bad trip territory. The bars I have are 2mg a piece and I have a handful of them.
How many mgs of xanax to properly abort and how quick does it kick in? Will it COMPLETELY kill the trip in its entirety or just mellow it out? I want to ride the waves unless I'm in a state where I HAVE to abort. Can i get some input on this?
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The Mycologist
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We cant give Xanax dosage advice man. You could look for someone describing how much they take throughout the forums, then the liability is on you.
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The Mycologist
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I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.
When referencing psychs ^
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Edited by The Mycologist (09/16/16 09:31 AM)
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BANANA.MAN
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Watch out for fake xanax's
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nowhere

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^ Truth, unless you're getting them from someone with a scrip they're probably fake. Likely still alprazolam, just produced in a dirty Chinese factory and pressed in someone's garage. Could be up to 4mg in it. Could be fentanyl (unlikely, but it has happened). Be careful.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: nowhere]
#23650022 - 09/16/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes many fake presses do contain alprazolam but many do not
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voodoochild1000
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No pills Bro...fucking deal with it...man up
...if u can't handle it...don't do it...your dose isn't even that high...jeez...don't be a pussy!
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BANANA.MAN
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Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.
I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?
Edited by BANANA.MAN (09/16/16 10:11 AM)
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voodoochild1000
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I trip super hard...nice need for pills...shit will simmer down soon enough!..anyways, you're going to be all goofed out regardless like you pop some pills might chill down the intensity but then you're just going to be f***** up half on psychs and half on pills.. yeah go take care of some responsibilities on that
Pill dealers and users are shady...
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wolf8312
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Quote:
The Mycologist said: I believe it was McKenna who said ~if you don't feel like you took way too much then you haven't taken enough.
When referencing psychs ^
McKenna never really owned up to how terrifying and dangerous he secretly knew psychedelics to be though. There's a certain logic in what he was saying- push into ego death and surrender- but it's still a silly statement tantamount to when shit hits the fan take more acid!
I don't think it's really a good idea to dose with Xanax around as most trips can get scary and the tendency will just be to bail at the first sign of trouble instead of working through the instructive nightmare. Which with a dose like that would probably be early.
Remember it will rip open your subconscious and smear it bloodily all over your wakened consciousness. That means everything you fear and are afraid of, meaning death in all probability. Be sure you're ready to work through that shit cause it can get very real...
If you think 700ug (too much in my opinion) will maybe cause you problems enough to need a Xanax then it's probably best not to do it. 300-500 should be enough for anyone anyhow, and if you want to go deeper but stay safer psychologically use DMT for it finishes much quicker!
Just be careful dude, LSD is a very powerful and potentially dangerous substance.
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connectedcosmos
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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: wolf8312] 1
#23650387 - 09/16/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive taken 2mg of klonopins to stop a mushroom trip and a 1p lsd 200mic trip, killed it within an hour still feel residual from the doses but the head space and visuals are basically gone within a hour
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Quote:
BANANA.MAN said: Wow everyone look how cool this guy is he doesnt need pills.
I agree that you should ride it out. But if a dangerous situation is occuring or if for some reason ou need to get sober because of a sudden responsibility. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. Thats horrible advice bro. And even a low dose of psyches can cause problems if something unexpected happens. People cant see the future so why not be prepared?
Yeah... I agree on having to man up the trip and take it, good or bad trip. But is also important to have an eject button, aka benzo :P
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BANANA.MAN
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Exactly. There is no point of taking a psychedelic to transform your life if you arent going to complete the transition but sometimes you find yourself in a bad situation and you just need to be as normal as possible as soon as possible.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (09/16/16 05:25 PM)
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LeeHarvOz
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xanax will calm you down and reduce some a lot of the effects but it won't completely kill the trip. i know people here will give me shit for it but sometimes i like to eat acid when I'm on xanax, its like a totally different drug.
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Mike4aco
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I've never used any kind of trip abort. Maybe ghb but it actually helped the acid trip
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: Mike4aco]
#23651351 - 09/16/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ghb is GABAnergic just like benzos and alcohol so it probably makes trips less intense.
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Never had benzos whe nI used to do high doses of LSD. Diddnt even know about that back then hahah. As BANANA.MAN says, you gotta ride it out sometimes. Besides, it builds character I always rode out the bad trps, where it was uncomfortable, scary or depressing there was still something to grasp from it that you may not have realized about yourself or the world. Sometimes the bad experiences make you learn more than the good ones. Atleast with my experience my "bad trips" have always been the ones that showed me the most..
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xThunder
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for anything 500ug and under, one bar lessens the effects to the point where I can hold a conversation and will eventually let me go to sleep after an hour or two.
Once I get into the 700+ range I need two bars but that completely knocks me out pretty quickly.
I try not to abort my trips but sometimes you need to. I've talked about it before on this forum, but I had a really bad experience when I just went too far with my dosage and just nearly called 911 because I was absolutely convinced I was going to die. It's not like I was a novice, I had dropped at least 30 times before that experience but nothing could have prepared me for that.
Ever since then I try to always trip with a benzo near by, as I have even more extreme anxiety when dosing than usual after that one extreme experience. At the very least it gives me peace of mind going in knowing that if things go south for any reason I have an eject button.
I'm a little disappointed to see discrimination against people's method's of handling bad trips or just tripping in general on this forum. I always thought that this of all places would be a safe haven for everyone to accept one another and come together seeing as how most of us have "seen beyond" and see how pointless that kind of shit is. What is wrong with taking a benzo to stop a bad trip or to go asleep at the tail end of it? Why is this grounds to say someone can't handle their shit, has a lack of character, or doesn't deserve the lessons these drugs give? I can't fathom how here of all places there is an air of elitism, I expect more from the community that convinced me to experiment with psychedelics years ago which resulted in a number of life changing experiences.
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SonicTitan


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Re: ABORT, ABORT! [Re: xThunder]
#23651772 - 09/16/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not against it, especially for helping sleep at the end of a trip. I just feel that sometimes the negative can also be good. Someone might be getting scared of a trip that may end up being an eye opening soul serching experience. Also, alot of the people who "abort" their trip end up doing it within the first 3 hours which I feel is not enough time to gauge where the trip is going to take you. Comeups can be fucking intense but they always smooth out into the peak. I just suggest waiting because Ive had some of the most intense beautiful and life alterting trips where the first 3 hours were complete insanity and uncontrollable. Try meditating next time you feel a bad trip comming, i like going outside and feeling the breeze and closing my eyes and just letting everything flow through me. Keeping a nice steady breathing pattern and my eyes closed. It works every time for me. Mike is right tho, set and setting. I dont think the coke really affected OP's trip outside of maybe overthinking which I have been guilty of myself while tripping anf getting paranoid about something.
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voodoochild1000
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Quote:
SonicTitan said: Never had benzos whe nI used to do high doses of LSD. Diddnt even know about that back then hahah. As BANANA.MAN says, you gotta ride it out sometimes. Besides, it builds character I always rode out the bad trps, where it was uncomfortable, scary or depressing there was still something to grasp from it that you may not have realized about yourself or the world. Sometimes the bad experiences make you learn more than the good ones. Atleast with my experience my "bad trips" have always been the ones that showed me the most..
...agreed...
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