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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23649938 - 09/16/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Its the same with smoking weed or people using heroin in public.

I visited a chapel many years ago with my mother and in the back there was a homeless person smoking heroin off of tin foil as a gratuitous incense contribution to the ambiance.

He wasnt disruptive, just doing his thing in private.

Neither my mother and I were offended, religiously or otherwise. Why should we? That was his thing, he was harming no one, he was getting all peaceful in a place of meditation. So? Why must homeless heroin users always be hunted down and hated on? Live and let live.




Wish the rest of the world was as open-minded as you, in 'Murrica somebody would have surely called the cops in 30 seconds flat.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23649946 - 09/16/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OHHHH THE BOONDOCKS NAILED IT AGAIN :rotfl:


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23649951 - 09/16/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Its the same with smoking weed or people using heroin in public.

I visited a chapel many years ago with my mother and in the back there was a homeless person smoking heroin off of tin foil as a gratuitous incense contribution to the ambiance.

He wasnt disruptive, just doing his thing in private.

Neither my mother and I were offended, religiously or otherwise. Why should we? That was his thing, he was harming no one, he was getting all peaceful in a place of meditation. So? Why must homeless heroin users always be hunted down and hated on? Live and let live.




Yeah, smoking weed in public is becoming so commonplace today, outside of bars and restaurants, nobody cares.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: qman]
    #23649961 - 09/16/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So would you be OK with sitting on a bench on the park, a homeless person hops on the other end of the bench, leavinjg you enough private space, whipping out the spoon and the bic, the filter and syringe and cooking himself up a proper shot of heroin :heroin: using it and slipping in a peaxceful sunny afternoon slumber?

I just dont see why that should be a problem for me. I'd find it interesting. He'd give me my space, I'd give him his space, we both enjoy the sunshine and birdsong in our own ways.

Would it be offensive to you?


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23649965 - 09/16/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm surprised to hear of breastfeeding not being socially acceptable in Netherlands though. I always assumed a lot of Western European countries were more relaxed about public nudity and things like that. I know France and Germany are, but Netherlands is not?


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23649973 - 09/16/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its more relaxed but its still a debate.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #23649985 - 09/16/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Women commonly wear special shirts & bras that have flaps that open, exposing a small portion of boob & nipple, which is then covered by a baby.  You can hardly see any teat, so stop acting like some woman just ripped off her shirt like Hulk Hogan & is sitting there naked from the waist up.





maybe that's the problem, they dont get to see some tittay because some brat has it's head in the way


the reality, these gawkers are the ones that get embarrassed and they dont know how
to handle it, they dont believe they should be publicly embarrassed because someone
else stuck a kid to their tit


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23649991 - 09/16/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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NotTheDevil, its little kids who infect public pools with warts, not adults. Its generally kids being steaming piles of infection because their parents who generally lack in raising them also lack in taking care of tyheir health because they are busy busy busy making enough money so they can afford daycare. Madness.





This is ridiculous.

Public pools are steaming piles of infection because they are swimming pools.  Otherwise known as stale ponds of water full of piss, shit, and snot, as well as all the infection and disease that comes with all of those bodily fluids..  And who is in charge of keeping it clean?  Joe Bob the pool keeper whose more interested in keeping Chlorine costs at a minimum than anyone's health and well-being..

Blaming other people for getting sick at a public swimming pool is akin to getting an infection from a porti-john and blaming everyone else that took a shit in it..  Some things are disgusting by nature, public pools are one of them.

Here's something, good parents don't allow their children to swim in public pools.  And I would hope that most adults would be smart enough to avoid them..  I mean, what is the appeal?  If a pool doesn't smell like piss, it inevitably smells so much of chemical aroma that it is likely to burn your skin..


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23650006 - 09/16/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:
So would you be OK with sitting on a bench on the park, a homeless person hops on the other end of the bench, leavinjg you enough private space, whipping out the spoon and the bic, the filter and syringe and cooking himself up a proper shot of heroin :heroin: using it and slipping in a peaxceful sunny afternoon slumber?

I just dont see why that should be a problem for me. I'd find it interesting. He'd give me my space, I'd give him his space, we both enjoy the sunshine and birdsong in our own ways.

Would it be offensive to you?




I think needles and blood does scare people because of health concerns, I would be afraid of stepping on a needle. Smoking it just seems so much more acceptable.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Mojo]
    #23650008 - 09/16/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your local pool must be a hellhole or you must be an antiseptic fundamentalist for talking about it like that.

My local pool is nowhere near that dirty. Yes you absolutely get an exchange of skin bacteria if you use a public pool but lets not get overly scared of each other.

Swimming in a public pool is a very pleasant experience and a social event. Don't let the seeds spoil the watermelon - dont let your fears of germs deprive you of mingling with the people of your community.

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Some things are disgusting by nature, public pools are one of them. Here's something, good parents don't allow their children to swim in public pools.  And I would hope that most adults would be smart enough to avoid them..




I can't disagree with you more and I'm glad I don't live with your apparent disgust for your fellow man and community.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23650010 - 09/16/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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We have to unlearn people to get offended or repulsed by things that are not really their business.




/thread.

Nothing else to add. This is exactly what I think about these issues..


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23650070 - 09/16/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Almost no one wants to see shit like this. Trying to force people to accept your body when you're wearing shit like that, in that body, is never going to work. You're at the exact opposite end of the spectrum from model or stripper, so stop trying to dress like one. Sometimes your body isn't your choice and almost everyone has stuff they would like to change but can't.. What you wear however, is always your choice. "I'm just wearing the clothes I have". Find some new ones.




Ew, I've never seen you be so crass.
You sound like a teenager trying to get a reaction with strong words and a harsh opinion.

Maybe they're not trying to force anything on anyone. Maybe they're just wearing what makes them feel good and they couldn't care less what you think.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: 1234go]
    #23650095 - 09/16/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Then let them continue not caring :shrug:. I dunno what to tell you, everyone has an opinion. I don't say anything to these people or make faces or even take pictures of them to point and laugh at with friends or for whatever reason people do take pictures of these strangers. However, I'm definitely not going to be leaping in to their defense, behind a keyboard or in person if someone else does it. They bring it on themselves. I kind of highly value personal responsibility. If they wanna wear that shit and don't care what people think or say, fine. If what people think or say hurts them, maybe they should make better choices in the future.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23650103 - 09/16/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why not? Why should people be made to feel ashamed for their bodies, because they dont resemble the photoshopped models in the media. Be real and be proud. Be unashamed.








I don't think overweight people should be made to feel ashamed for how their body is, but I also think we are all walking examples for the next generation, so should take care of ourselves for that reason first, and our own personal aesthetic second.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23650111 - 09/16/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

people can do whatever in public as long as I can stare, point and take pics


Edited by mt cleverest (09/16/16 10:31 AM)


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23650116 - 09/16/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:I don't say anything to these people or make faces or even take pictures of them to point and laugh at with friends or for whatever reason people do take pictures of these strangers.
However, I'm definitely not going to be leaping in to their defense, behind a keyboard or in person if someone else does it. 






But you'll leap to insult them, behind a keyboard, when someone supports them?  Lol. Whatever, dude.

Well I'm glad you're not making faces at least, proud of you for that one.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: 1234go]
    #23650157 - 09/16/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't insult them. I just said almost no one wants to see that. Same could be said about a guy walking around Wal-mart with 7 dildos hanging out of his ass or a puke orgy. I mean I guess you could see it as an insult but you make it sound like I'm calling them disgusting ugly fatties or something when I've kept my opinion on any one of them individually to myself. I generalized a group of people and stated a far less specific opinion on that group.

Controlling one's thoughts is a lot easier said than done and I'm sure you have some rattling around in your brain that rival mine.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23650205 - 09/16/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm on my phone, & quoting is a PITA so just gonna respond without quotes.

@ pris:  hella agreed, on both accounts.  But I wonder why it embarrasses some folks to see a new mother nursing an infant.  I never thought of it one way or the other before my son was born.  When I would see it, it'd just be like watching any other person eat.  Now that I've been a parent for over 1.5 years, it reminds me of all the amazing shit moms do & I'm happy for the mother and child.  Which is kinda gay, but I've come to peace with the fact that parenting has softened me up a lot.  So it looks like at this stage of my life I have a pro bias towards public breastfeeding, but  I just don't understand how it's so upsetting to some people.  I wish someone who doesn't like it would take a moment to explain their views to me.

@ Asante:  hella disagreed about using heroin in public.  Now, I'm a big proponent of "each to his own", particularly when it comes to victimless crime, but my argument against public heroin use is that if everyone is just allowed to cook up & slam a shot of dope wherever they want, it normalizes that behavior.  If I lived in a city like the ones in the Grand Theft Auto games, a city that has no children, this wouldn't be an issue to me.  But I definitely don't want my son growing up thinking that banging heroin is as normal or accepted as drinking a beer (which you're generally not allowed to do openly on the streets either, with some exceptions).  I get that it's my job to educate him to make the right choices, but it'd be a lot of mixed messages if I told him he shouldn't do that, and then he sees people doing it all over.  Yep, I am playing the pearl-clutching "won't someone think of the children" card.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23650284 - 09/16/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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@ pris:  hella agreed, on both accounts.  But I wonder why it embarrasses some folks to see a new mother nursing an infant.  I never thought of it one way or the other before my son was born.  When I would see it, it'd just be like watching any other person eat.  Now that I've been a parent for over 1.5 years, it reminds me of all the amazing shit moms do & I'm happy for the mother and child.  Which is kinda gay, but I've come to peace with the fact that parenting has softened me up a lot.  So it looks like at this stage of my life I have a pro bias towards public breastfeeding, but  I just don't understand how it's so upsetting to some people.  I wish someone who doesn't like it would take a moment to explain their views to me.




Basically, people who are ACTUALLY exposed to breastfeeding view it as normal.

All the males I know that had sisters or cousins in the household that were pregnant and breastfeeding pretty much view it as normal and beautiful.

It's funny, because it's usually males who are the ones getting offended and telling women to cover up their breasts or go breastfeed elsewhere. It's almost like they're insinuating that breasts are men's property.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23650299 - 09/16/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I see your point, but I don't think it's only guys who were exposed to breastfeeding that find it normal.  Growing up, I didn't see any of it in my day to day vicinity.  I grew up with my immediate family, and no extended family around.  So pretty much all the breastfeeding I ever saw was randos in public, until my own friends started having kids.  While growing up around it definitely would create an acceptance, it's not the only way.


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