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    #23649568 - 09/16/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yesterday during the heatwave here in Holland I saw an Arab man walk the street barefoot. I saw a few Dutchmen walk and bicycle around without a shirt. There's this fashion among youths that their pants sag down. Women are fighting for their right to breastfeed their baby when and where the want.

I applaud all this. I welcome it. We as a society are losing our irrational inhibitions. The prudishness and excessive shyness. This is a liberation from the yoke of bodyshaming that we as a society carried.

It should be OK to skinnydip in the river and grocery shop in your bathing suit in a heatwave. A fat person should be able to walk around shirtless without people "feeling disgusted"or "shaming him" from his natural body. Handicapped people should be able to not wear their prosthetics in public and not be offended if a child gawks and points in fascination. Old ladies should find pride in and acceptave for their many wrinkles. Maybe in time it should be OK to be seen naked if weather and circumstance call for it without people thinking sexual thoughts or getting upset.

One spearhead of this is women breastfeeding their babies in public. Why not? Its the healthiest thing that can be for that baby to get the right food and get it in time and that mom can give it to them without a sense of danger or hiding away. Yes, babies pick that up, they monitor their surroundings like Terminators looking for approval, disapproval, hierarchy, danger and things to learn.

Why not? Why should people be made to feel ashamed for their bodies, because they dont resemble the photoshopped models in the media. Be real and be proud. Be unashamed.

Take it from me. I'm the fattest guy in the swimming pool. I use this to my advantage by making splash dives so epic its like a dolphin smacking down in the water again. I'm confident, I play in the water without worry whether people think I should be ashamed of my body or wonder about my IQ. I learned to be confident of my body and I lost all my social phobia and the body dysmorphic dysphoria that kept me in hiding most my life. People CHEER my confidence, it makes them feel better about their own insecurities to see a greatly obese guy be so confident, cheerful and funloving.

Its really like that, and its like that for YOU TOO. People react more strongly to the way you carry yourself than your bodily imperfections.

Ladies, breastfeed your babies! People, conquer a pride and confidence in your body and a peace with the bodies of others.

ENJOY LIFE!
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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #23649588 - 09/16/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

To each their own. :shrug:
I wear house slippers when I grocery shop, does that count?

I should probably get a pair of these.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23649604 - 09/16/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The large city I live near has an officially recognized public clothing optional beach, which I think is pretty good progress. It's one of only two such beaches in the whole country though. That's been official since the early 2000s, and female topless equality in this province was won in a court case a few years before that IIRC. Breastfeeding rights go back further I think but I'm not sure of the details.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: psi] * 2
    #23649607 - 09/16/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We have to unlearn people to get offended or repulsed by things that are not really their business.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23649632 - 09/16/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah "live and let live" goes a long way. "Your business is my business" was a big part of how some terrible evils by totalitarian states were accepted, at the risk of Godwin'ing up this thread at this early stage.



It's weird though, some ideological nudists will just kind of do the same thing in the other direction and judge people negatively for wearing clothes. There was a news story this summer at the beach I mentioned where nudists were putting up their own signs implying nudity was mandatory, and challenging people as they arrived to remove their clothes. If the project has become so successful that there's overcrowding, (regardless of what people are wearing), why not do something productive and campaign for the city to give its blessing to "unofficial" beaches elsewhere?

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/07/20/hanlans-point-nudists-want-beach-goers-to-bare-all.html


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 4
    #23649641 - 09/16/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, let's just devolve as a civilized society. Hopefully pretty soon I can just shit on the street corner like a feral animal.

Jesus Christ dude, we wear clothes in public for health reasons you know?

Last thing I want to see is some chick pull her saggy tits out and let her child start sucking on them while I'm eating in a restaurant, damn.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: MightyWhite] * 3
    #23649649 - 09/16/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Last thing I want to see is some chick pull her saggy tits out and let her child start sucking on them while I'm eating in a restaurant, damn.




So do you think that should outweigh the child's need to eat? You presumably have the ability to look in another direction.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: psi] * 2
    #23649660 - 09/16/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The mother presumably has the option to feed her kid somewhere else, presumably in a private setting.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: MightyWhite] * 1
    #23649669 - 09/16/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Either way, it isn't your business.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: psi] * 3
    #23649678 - 09/16/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In regards to body shaming, I'm not entirely against it and never will be.







Almost no one wants to see shit like this. Trying to force people to accept your body when you're wearing shit like that, in that body, is never going to work. You're at the exact opposite end of the spectrum from model or stripper, so stop trying to dress like one. Sometimes your body isn't your choice and almost everyone has stuff they would like to change but can't.. What you wear however, is always your choice. "I'm just wearing the clothes I have". Find some new ones.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: psi]
    #23649684 - 09/16/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Right, it may not be my business. But common decency and respect towards other people is the core of civilized society, we aren't a pack of wild bonobos.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23649686 - 09/16/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol what's with the video asante


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23649693 - 09/16/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #23649695 - 09/16/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't want to see cars. I don't want to inhale their exhaust fumes nor run the risk of beig ran over by them.

So.. does the fact that I dont want to see cars mean you can't ride one?

Accept my fat body or look the other way but dont try to infringe on my right to  have one.

Should I be banned from the pool for being unappetizingly fat? I don't think so.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23649700 - 09/16/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not infringing on your rights. You have every right to be fat, just as I have every right to criticize you for being fat and going to the grocery store in a tube top and booty shorts. Don't like it? Wear something else. Or are you just a hypocrite who doesn't understand "rights" is a two way street?


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: MightyWhite] * 11
    #23649701 - 09/16/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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MightyWhite said:

Last thing I want to see is some chick pull her saggy tits out and let her child start sucking on them while I'm eating in a restaurant, damn.




I'm always surprised to read something like this.  I mean, I get it, to an extent: I'm not a fan of the sagging pants that Asante celebrates in the thread title, because I'm not crazy about looking at a bunch of men's asses in certain situations.  But breastfeeding serves a function.  Like, the most healthy, natural thing shared between a mother & infant.  I cannot for the life of me understand why women should be forced to breastfeed in restrooms or some kind of privacy booth because someone can't stop looking at what offends them.  When I see the sagging pants, I just don't look.  It wouldn't ruin my meal or my day. 

And these anti-breastfeeding folks are always like "she whipped out her saggy tits!"  I've never seen that.  Every woman I've ever seen breastfeeding in public does it rather discreetly.  Women commonly wear special shirts & bras that have flaps that open, exposing a small portion of boob & nipple, which is then covered by a baby.  You can hardly see any teat, so stop acting like some woman just ripped off her shirt like Hulk Hogan & is sitting there naked from the waist up.  I'm not even going to address the "saggy breasts" body shaming component of this. 

No offense Mighty White, but I kinda suspect that a lot of you vocal anti-breastfeeding-in-public sorts have unresolved mommy issues.  See a therapist.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: MightyWhite]
    #23649706 - 09/16/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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MightyWhite said:
Right, it may not be my business. But common decency and respect towards other people is the core of civilized society, we aren't a pack of wild bonobos.




Not everyone will agree on how to define those though. For me, a big part of mutual respect is minding my own business where appropriate.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante]
    #23649711 - 09/16/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also for what it's worth, I'm no model myself. I am over weight. Not obese but definitely not slim or chiseled. I dress appropriately so I couldn't give a fuck less about what some random stranger thinks of my body.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23649713 - 09/16/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:

Should I be banned from the pool for being unappetizingly fat? I don't think so.




No, but you should be grateful that you didn't get banned from the pool for swimming with oozing, pustular wounds.  That was kinda messed up.


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Re: Public breastfeeding, Saggin' pants, Body Shaming. [Re: psi] * 2
    #23649724 - 09/16/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is it anybody's business except mine if I drop my pants and start jerking my dick while you're ordering your appetizers at dinner?


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