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spacechildo
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23676193 - 09/25/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Muchograndesenior said: WBS cakes are ready, but damn that harvest! 2 little shroomies per cake but yea, at least i got the prints out of em.
if you fruit a colonized brick of wbs no casing layer no spawning no wonder your yields suck, find a proper tek with a trail of good results and follow it.
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: spacechildo]
#23676458 - 09/25/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol you are absolute right!
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23676461 - 09/25/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok i will follow that from now on cause that seems like taking step 1 step 2 etc etc etc
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23685891 - 09/28/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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1st monotub seems to be ready soon. There is about 70+ shrooms that has short but fat stems, small caps. Also there is 8 normal shrooms that are to be open in 2 days. What this could mean? Why there is so much those fatties?
2nd monotub has fruited but very unevenly. It looks much healthier though than the 1st one!
EDIT: It must be cause of some bacteria.
Edited by Muchograndesenior (09/28/16 09:24 AM)
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mushboy
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23685937 - 09/28/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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got pics bruh?
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JacobStorm
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: bodhisatta]
#23685944 - 09/28/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Don't blame failure on holes or hole placement

That is the nicest tub I have ever seen. Thank you for that. Those pictures will end up in a book down the road.
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: mushboy]
#23685954 - 09/28/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No i don't have.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: JacobStorm]
#23685974 - 09/28/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said:
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bodhisatta said: Don't blame failure on holes or hole placement

That is the nicest tub I have ever seen. Thank you for that. Those pictures will end up in a book down the road.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23662427
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800
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JacobStorm
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: bodhisatta]
#23685984 - 09/28/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I saw your posts earlier. Fucking breath taking. Its my phone back round. You dont strike me as the person to boast or throw it around all smug but I'm sure your well proud and maybe impressed your self. I sense a TC tag in the future.
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23686208 - 09/28/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Muchograndesenior said: 1st monotub seems to be ready soon. There is about 70+ shrooms that has short but fat stems, small caps. Also there is 8 normal shrooms that are to be open in 2 days. What this could mean? Why there is so much those fatties?
2nd monotub has fruited but very unevenly. It looks much healthier though than the 1st one!
EDIT: It must be cause of some bacteria.
Unless you are working with a cloned sample or an isolated geneotype you will have variance with your mushrooms sizes. Multispore genetics will generally produce varying mushrooms. Even a spore print is multispore and will produce a wide variety of genetics.
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RogerRabbit said: Mushrooms drop billions of spores, so there are billions of possible pairings in every sporeprint. All you need to do is follow a regimen of strain isolation on agar, then fruit out a few dozen strains to find the best producer. After that, simply store mycelium on a slant in the refrigerator and remove to start cultures when needed. RR
RR advises to move to Agar with your prints so you can start isolating a genotype; as, even with a print from one mushroom you have a vast amount of genetic diversity.
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: leech911]
#23686614 - 09/28/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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leech911 said:
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Muchograndesenior said: 1st monotub seems to be ready soon. There is about 70+ shrooms that has short but fat stems, small caps. Also there is 8 normal shrooms that are to be open in 2 days. What this could mean? Why there is so much those fatties?
2nd monotub has fruited but very unevenly. It looks much healthier though than the 1st one!
EDIT: It must be cause of some bacteria.
Unless you are working with a cloned sample or an isolated geneotype you will have variance with your mushrooms sizes. Multispore genetics will generally produce varying mushrooms. Even a spore print is multispore and will produce a wide variety of genetics.
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RogerRabbit said: Mushrooms drop billions of spores, so there are billions of possible pairings in every sporeprint. All you need to do is follow a regimen of strain isolation on agar, then fruit out a few dozen strains to find the best producer. After that, simply store mycelium on a slant in the refrigerator and remove to start cultures when needed. RR
RR advises to move to Agar with your prints so you can start isolating a genotype; as, even with a print from one mushroom you have a vast amount of genetic diversity.
You gotta post the link that quote is from. Other wise Quote:
leech91 said: people like me can make anyone say anything
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: JacobStorm]
#23693054 - 09/30/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1st monotub is ready tomorrow. Shrooms are looking good, just so many aborts! Those fatties that i told you are aborting but there's 1 so big shroom that i haven't seen in a while. About 7g dry i think.
2nd monotub is producing much healthier shrooms. Maybe it did affect when i lifted the substrate up to the level of bottom holes right away when i moved it to fruiting stage. I lifted the 1st monotub subsrate at day 15 to bottom hole level and it took almost a month to finish the 1st flush.
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub (pic from BOSS shroom) [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23709623 - 10/05/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just did harvest the 1st monotub and wow. It did, and didn't disappoint me. The fatties were aborts, but the rest that grew mature grew HUGE! 11,7 grams was the biggest from monotub 1!
The 2nd monotub is soon ready, and guess what? It has even BIGGER BOSS SHROOM in it!
The bottom holes didn't matter i see, cause those 2 monotubs produced the same kind of shrooms although it was a multispore grow.
One thing im curious, i cant seem to get prints from monotub shrooms. Looks like that spores stick's to the gills cause of the moisture.
EDIT: Added pic
Edited by Muchograndesenior (10/05/16 02:39 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: Muchograndesenior]
#23709717 - 10/05/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let the caps open more before trying to print
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Muchograndesenior
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Re: Importance of bottom holes being at substrate level in monotub [Re: bodhisatta]
#23709726 - 10/05/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Let the caps open more before trying to print
I'll do that on monotub 2. They really have to open wide then. I tried to take prints from caps that were almost at horizontal position, but not quite yet.
EDIT: vertical to horizontal !!!!
Edited by Muchograndesenior (10/06/16 06:14 AM)
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