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Mushroom ID Assistance
    #23647727 - 09/15/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Assistance in identifying these mushrooms please...thanks.

Some backstory.  I grew mushrooms from my very first kit and then threw out the compost into a large bamboo field in my back yard.  When I checked the compost a couple of weeks later, these mushrooms had grown up directly from the compost.

They look like the same variety as what was grown, but seem very black around the gills.  They also had a lot of earwig insects running about them.  In your opinion, are these edible?

Note, the first two photos are after washing, and the last is after being in a dehydrator overnight.

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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23647843 - 09/15/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis:thumbup:

They look like they'll be a damned good time :mushroom2:

Either dey the shit out of them with a dehydrator or fan and once they are cracker dry drop them in a jar with dessicent or make some potent tea.

Also avoid washing your mushrooms with tons of water unless you're eating them right away! I used to eat them right out the cows asshole. Never hurt me lol.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23647898 - 09/15/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ha ha, thanks!  I thought they were ok, but I'm a newb!  They have been dehydrated already so they are ready to go!

Again, thanks for the quick response!


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23649638 - 09/16/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tried them last night and they were definitely potent.  Consumed three grams and had a really bad trip...I would love to explain what happened, but it is impossible.  Lots of geometry, spirals, neon colors and a sense I was completely out of my body and out of control.  I did not enjoy it.  This is the third time I have tried mushrooms and I've never experienced these sensations before.  The other times, it was just some random patterns repeating in clouds, etc. but no feeling of being out of control.  Perhaps the dose was too large.

Anyway, thanks for the identification.  I have a lot to think about.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23649860 - 09/16/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah they looked very dense mean and mature in your pictures. Density in stem meaning how big around and sturdy the stem is as well as how hollow makes a hell of a difference potency wise in my 15 years of picking and growing experience. Yeah you might have had too much. Maybe start with a gram next go and wait an hour.

Im sorry you had a bad trip. I've been through them myself lots of fear and paranoia. Mushrooms are a beautiful thing. Don't let one bad trip turn you away from them forever. Just give it a few weeks and start small next time.
They have many things to teach you still!

Do you have them drying or did you make all into tea and put in refrigerator?


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom] * 1
    #23650081 - 09/16/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would not eat those cubes. you can see that they have gone well passed the fully mature, a bit past prime, & the "those are looking kinda manky, bro, are you sure they are still cool to eat?" stages, and are fully into the rotten and approaching the more bacteria than mushroom stage in a mushrooms development.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: ambc]
    #23650104 - 09/16/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I would not eat those cubes. you can see that they have gone well passed the fully mature, a bit past prime, & the "those are looking kinda manky, bro, are you sure they are still cool to eat?" stages, and are fully into the rotten and approaching the more bacteria than mushroom stage in a mushrooms development.




This guy is a Trusted Identifier so if he says throw them out they are rotten then you probably should take the advice. Did they make you cause a lot of stomach issues after you ate them?


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23650204 - 09/16/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

As ambc said, those are funky looking.

But keep checking that area, you might find more in the future.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23650331 - 09/16/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I dried them and then consumed about three grams dry.  But this was definitely not a good trip.  My wife took them with me and her trip was even worse than mine.  I will take your advice and throw the rest away, I have some fresh ones in the works.

I have to be honest, this trip almost put me off trying them again.  It will be quite a while.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23650341 - 09/16/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And no stomach issues other than some spurts of nausea, but we did not throw up.

Thanks again guys.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23650342 - 09/16/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. I've eaten old mushrooms many times but have never had a bad trip because they were way past their maturity date. I have gotten stomach pain from eating old specimens though which doesn't help a trip out. Sorry you had a bad time. Im glad you're giving it another shot though! Good thing you didn't eat double the dose lol.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23650369 - 09/16/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Seriously, if I had eaten five grams, I don't think I would've come back!  The sense of being separated from my body with no control was just overwhelming.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23650519 - 09/16/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it can be an odd sensation. Better luck and vibes for your next trip sir!


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23650547 - 09/16/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you!  And thanks for the advice all!


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23659109 - 09/19/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I dried them and then consumed about three grams dry.  But this was definitely not a good trip.  My wife took them with me and her trip was even worse than mine.  I will take your advice and throw the rest away, I have some fresh ones in the works.

I have to be honest, this trip almost put me off trying them again.  It will be quite a while.





just use less next time.  try half that dose and see what it does.  if you had no GI issues besides the nausea--which can be pretty common especially on the come up--then the mushrooms were probably fine and sound pretty potent.

people react differently to shrooms and for some the sweet spot is around 1.75-2 grams for a nice, sociable, laughing good time.  my wife loses her shit on 2.5+g or just 2g lemon tekked and has no fun at all.

one of my favorite drug sayings:  you can always take more.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: relic]
    #23660885 - 09/20/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've been thinking about this more and more and I am really wanting to dive in again, just with less as you mentioned.  I think it will be better just knowing what to expect next time....


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23661450 - 09/20/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it usually is better the second+ time, ime.  anecdote warning: a friend and his wife wanted to try some so i introduced them with just 1.2g.  then they wanted to really dive in and said they wanted to take around 3.5g a piece.  i warned them not to but they insisted.

so we put them in a really comfortable place, with a home base they could retreat to should they feel the need, warned them repeatedly about knowing it WILL end at some point, and i underdosed them with 'only' about 3g.  needless to say they dove too far into the deep end and didn't have a terrible time but it was much more than they bargained for. 

the next day i told them i hadn't even given them the amount they wanted.  the time after that they had a really special night on 2.2g.  they now know what to expect from different levels and know how to figure their own doses.

don't let it get to you.  it sounds like you just did too much and it was a cheap lesson all things considered. have fun.


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: relic]
    #23661505 - 09/20/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Again thanks, all comments have been very helpful!


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: IamLegend]
    #23661741 - 09/20/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I dried them and then consumed about three grams dry.  But this was definitely not a good trip.  My wife took them with me and her trip was even worse than mine.  I will take your advice and throw the rest away, I have some fresh ones in the works.

I have to be honest, this trip almost put me off trying them again.  It will be quite a while.





Try Panaeolus Cyanescens. I dont like Cubensis trips at all but if you can find Cyans they're great!


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Re: Mushroom ID Assistance [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23661756 - 09/20/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Cool, I've only been able to find grow kits with Cubensis, but I'll be on the lookout.


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