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Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates?
#23647658 - 09/15/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've always strictly avoided opiates due to their addiction potential, but I've noticed over the years that a LOT of long term shroomery members are or were addicted to opiates at some time or another. Perhaps even the majority of long term shoomery users might have at one time been addicted to opiates. So I was curious as to what percentage of our users is or was addicted to opiates.
So I made this poll:
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23647666 - 09/15/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never indulged, I get a lot out of weed and psychedelics, don't need to tempt fate
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23647670 - 09/15/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes I'm currently addicted trying to quit It's somewhat hard I reserve "very hard" for the case where I consider myself unable to fight the addiction using willpower alone. Actually looks like I voted for that; I'm fucked.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23647673 - 09/15/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, thankfully I never felt the desire to do more heroin after the first time I tried it
I'm addicted to meth though and it fucking sucks in its own right, it's like a ghost that will always haunt me for the rest of eternity
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23647700 - 09/15/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No. Yes. Very Strong. Very Hard. 5 years.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23647762 - 09/15/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive never taken opiates and hopefully will never have to (if i did it would be for genuine pain management after a surgery)
Unless you count kratom, in which case i've done it a handful of times. Never got addicted to it though, and no future plans to do it again because it fucks with my stomache
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Sheekle]
#23647794 - 09/15/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah and with it being Sched 1, you're better off eating oxies which are sched 2.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23647805 - 09/15/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never taken opiates except as administered for surgery, no intention of trying any
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman] 3
#23647840 - 09/15/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I spent a long ass time addicted to opiates, mostly heroin but also some pharms & pods. Quitting was very hard for the longest time. Over a period of 10 or 11 years I'd try to quit and maybe make it a few months or even a year, but always ended up back in it. But then some shit happened in my life, I really bottomed out & at around the same time I found out I was going to be a father. At that point, I knew I couldn't do it anymore and quitting that last time wasn't too hard because of the level of fed up/determined I reached. So now I haven't used them in about 2.5 years and have a tough time imaging that I ever will again.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23647870 - 09/15/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never tried one, Opiates are rather boring with no mind expanding potential. The junkies I've met will act like your best friend one moment then when you turn your back run off with your stuff. Addicts are almost a plant already they'd probably be better off if someone put them out to pasture
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Love_spirit] 2
#23647878 - 09/15/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Never tried one, Opiates are rather boring with no mind expanding potential. The junkies I've met will act like your best friend one moment then when you turn your back run off with your stuff. Addicts are almost a plant already they'd probably be better off if someone put them out to pasture 
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: TNK]
#23648086 - 09/15/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheNatureKid said: Yeah and with it being Sched 1, you're better off eating oxies which are sched 2.
Well, please sign this petition then! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance
Kind of like with the number one question on the 'net being "what about legalization of pot?" or similar. Back in the early Obama years.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23648158 - 09/15/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I chose no because the poll question said opiates not opioids.
I have been dependent on Kratom to varying degrees for some years but it's not technically an opiate .
At the worst of it I couldn't sleep at all without dosing Kratom right before bed and would get violent twitching and spasms all night as I tossed and turned in bed, and would wake up with crying eyes and dysphoria and have no energy or enthusiasm without dosing .
When I realized how bad it had become (although atill extremely mild compared to more severe withdrawals from other drugs ) I decided to break free of dependence.
I took a full week break from Kratom then resumed dosing on 50 percent of days instead of daily .
Maintaining this schedule I no longer experience more than extremely mild fatigue and apathy on off days.
I am therefore not really addicted anymore , in the sense that I can have good happy productive days without dosing it now.
But I am still a bit reliant on it psychologically, especially for work.
I really feel for people hooked on heroin or oxy or pod or seed tea.
My Kratom WD probably rated a 2 or 3 out of 10 at the absolute worst, and it was hard enough.
I can't even imagine a 7-8 out of 10 withdrawal from long term IV heroin or daily pod tea or whatever.
But more so even when I was addicted Kratom enhanced my life and didn't cause me any major problems or harms.
It's brutal that addicts not only experience hell when in withdrawal but also when they are using .
The health problems, legal problems, and social and emotional costs are just devestating .
It's evil and inexcusable that the DEA will now be subjecting Kratom users to the same draconian legal harms As heroin.
Good news is that Canada has legalized prescription heroin for addicts , which is a proven harm reduction method .
Good luck and best wishes to all those bearing the cross of opiate addiction .
Kratom , ibogaine, pregabalin and loperamide are All worth researching in relation to opiates and withdrawal .
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23648214 - 09/15/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have never been an opiate addict, though i reached a point in my time with pods where i realized if i didn't stop, i would develop a serious problem. that was also when the price of pods tripled+ in a 6-8 week period, then supplies all but dried up for a while. i was using almost daily for a month or better at the peak. dabbled for 1.5-2 years total.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Love_spirit]
#23648250 - 09/15/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Says he's never even tried them, then describes them as boring opiates are most definitely not boring. They make anything fun, which is one of reasons they're so addictive. I was a hardcore junkie for a long time. From my late teens through my mid twenties. I've had my shit together for a while now, built a good life for myself & don't plan of going back & fucking it up. Not worth it. But, I wouldn't be the person I am today without going through all that. So..... not a road I recommend going down though, that's for damn sure.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23648266 - 09/15/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im addicted to kratom currently but i know i could easily quit whenever. If i can get off etizolam and stay off that im sure i can make it through kratom withdrawals. Lol
I did use oxies a little in highschool but never did get addicted to them. I can see how someone could though.
They made drinking REALLY fun. Not smart but fun. First night using them i drank nearly a whole bottle of lucid liquor and dont remember how much oxy. I loved them because i remember waking up that next morning with no hangover at all, i actually felt great. I went back to those a few more times while drinking.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Dark_Star] 2
#23648273 - 09/15/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Am I really the only one who's been hooked over 10 years? Hard to believe. Maybe slightly less but it seemed more accurate than 6-10. It's more like 11 with 18 months + 6 weeks of clean time in there. Been clean 23 days right now except kratom, which is the best I have done since January.
I still seriously consider getting high every day though.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Love_spirit] 1
#23648275 - 09/15/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Never tried one, Opiates are rather boring with no mind expanding potential. The junkies I've met will act like your best friend one moment then when you turn your back run off with your stuff. Addicts are almost a plant already they'd probably be better off if someone put them out to pasture 
opiates are one form of paradise. or rather, they can transport one's physical/emotional state into a state of bliss/paradise
to say they have no form of "mind expanding potential" is rather ignorant, especially for someone who's never tried 'one'
fyi, any perspective change has the potential to allow one to expand their mind
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23648280 - 09/15/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I chose to 6-10. It was pretty close to 10, but not over for me.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: demiu5]
#23648288 - 09/15/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: fyi, any perspective change has the potential to allow one to expand their mind
Indeed. Like when someone removes their head from their ass.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: California]
#23648289 - 09/15/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's funny cause I've come across so many spunions that are degenerates as well, then they get snooty about other drugs.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23648340 - 09/15/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seems clear to me from following the stories of so many opiate users that the long term effect is a drastic closing down and closing off of consciousness, not any kind of opening or expansion, except in the sense of opening one to new levels of misery and expanding ones sense of suffering and despair.
The kind of lessons they teach are lessons best left unlearned , or learned in other ways.
Opiate addiction is a holistic and existential tragedy .
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23648358 - 09/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes I'm technically addicted to opiates as I'm still on methadone. Started methadone after 5 years of oxy/fentanyl use beginning in my mid-teens. Withdrawals were fucking brutal towards the end. I tried cold turkey and was in bed for a week. Had a hard time just walking for a week after that, and by the end of the month I still felt like total complete shit and said 'fuck it' and just grabbed more pills. So I answered 'how hard was it to quit' as 'very hard'. Couldn't have done it without the methadone. Towards the end it seemed like I was sick more often than high.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23648365 - 09/15/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly the best visuals and life lessons I got were always from heavy opiate abuse. I would definitely hallucinate. It's weird though, and without that horrible self-conscousness that comes with weed or psychedelics.
It's more like dreaming than tripping really, but opiates can be more subtle than you think. Not to talk them up, as being sick absolutely sucks, but it's a complex class of drugs for sure.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23648384 - 09/15/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah nod dreams are crazy.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23648390 - 09/15/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No Yes Very Strong Somewhat hard more than 10 years, not all of that was on the needle though, I started with cough syrup, then moved to pills, then heroin, majority of my addiction was on IV dope though.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23648392 - 09/15/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not all opiate users are the same like not all drunks are the same. Some drunks are angry and miserable while some are happy and have really nice lives. Some junkies will steal your newspaper and some will bring it to your door.
I've been using opiates recreationly for about 20 years now and have only had noticeable withdrawals once. My life was in a downward spiral at the time and I was doin pods daily for a month or two. The withdrawals weren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. Its like having the flu and wanting drugs at the same time. Now that I think about it, the last flu I had was actually worse.
Recently I've just been doing kratom because it is more enjoyable and better for everyday pain. I save the opiates for when I have severe pain.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23648394 - 09/15/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Yeah nod dreams are crazy.

i'd make 30 hour playlists on my 20GB ARCHOS mp3 player ( ) and fade away
i had many "premonition" dreams on tea, many of them being fulfilled or pretty damn close
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quite possibly more important than any other chemically/physically induced perspective shift
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#23648397 - 09/15/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You got lucky. The withdrawals most certainly are as bad as they're made out to be.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#23648410 - 09/15/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: Some junkies will steal your newspaper and some will bring it to your door.
I would bring it to your door, I was usually a nice junkie, and didn't think the junkies that robbed for a fix were cool at all. I would rather be sick than rob someone for a fix.
But most times if I didn't have dope, a friend would bust me a shot to get me well, eventually I got put on Subs, so was not sick often, unless I sold my Subs for dope money then ran out of dope.
Withdrawals though are horrible, cramping legs, diarrhea, gagging, I never really puked that much, but always got the shits, watering eyes and nose got so bad I wish I could cut them off, chills, pains in my injection sites, fatigue, dear lord what was I thinking doing that shit for so many years, oh yeah that's right, the rush felt so good I actually got a hardon a number of times, pins and needles in the face felt good as fuck.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#23648423 - 09/15/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am currently and have previously been an opiate and kratom addict
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Connoisseur]
#23648450 - 09/15/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Reminds me of the old saying "heroin killed the hippies".
I've battled with dope a little, too.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Connoisseur]
#23648456 - 09/15/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To expand on my addiction I took the classical route of weak -> strong opiates Started with Kratom, tried a few hydrocodone and loved them, tried opana and it blew me and my friends away, then used Percocet pretty heavy in what would become my first real binge. Then returned to opana and eventually found out what it's like to withdraw from oxymorphone (it's the worst, endless cold), then I moved back to oxy (roxys this time) when I was dealing and I was able to afford a few a week if that... when I was supplied I felt like a god though... anything became fun/interesting/doable. Eventually started smoking dope then shot it and have been shooting ever since (now for six months on and off). Did poppy seed tea briefly this summer but then traded it back for a dope habit because the rush isn't there and it's easier to feel sick off PST.
So far my saving grace is that I haven't had enough money to get into a habit that I'd get physically sick from coming off of. On paper I've been "chipping" but in reality I'm using whenever I get cash so I still consider the addiction very strong and bad.
It hasn't ruined my life but it has certainly taken some things from me, though I don't think I'd change anything as I still have fond memories of the my oxycodone days and some of my early dope shooting experiences were simply mind blowing.
The nod world is a strange place but I wouldn't consider that to be "visuals".
Ultimately I know that when I put this addiction behind me I will be a stronger person from having beat it. Most ex addicts I know are very strong people, out of necessity of beating what truly is the ultimate monster. There are brief moments of excellence in heroin addiction that make it seem worth continuing, but they're not easily understood by someone who doesn't use. It's a whole other world, truly. If you haven't shot up you never should.
I am not out of the woods because when I see money I instantly think of it in dope terms... how many bags will this get me? Can I swing a bun? How will I hustle up money for gas? Will I go badger a family member? Can I swing that or has it not been long enough since I last did?
I am absolutely not to be trusted around medicine cabinets
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: mikeisapro]
#23648468 - 09/15/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have known several hippies that got into heroin, and then weren't so hippish anymore, started listening to darker music, and became a bit worn around the edges.
Heroin really takes you on down through there if ya know what I mean.
If you read about how heroin impacted the hippie scene of San Francisco in the 60's, it's really interesting, yet sad stuff.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Lucis]
#23648946 - 09/15/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've dabbled with just about every type of opiate but never to the point of addiction at all. My favorite is opium/pod tea or tincture which I indulge in a few times a year and a very occasional puff of dope. Seen a lot of people around me become severely addicted to ops in a hurry.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
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Don't like ANY downer at all for recreational highs. I use them for their intended purpose, or to come down off stims. I actually have a very low tolerance to opiates of any kind it seems. Half a 50 vicodin makes me feel sleepy or sleep, tylonol 3's, xanax and all those ones people use to get high on make me sick/sleep. Valium I could see maybe getting into but they are just for sleeping like I said and I rarely have them on hand. I don't do stims as much these days and when I do I don't do nearly as much as I used to. Maybe 1-3 times a a month.
Reading those wca threads makes me feel for some people in there. It seems incredibly tough to have that addiction. I had a coke addiction but got myself out of it. I know how hard an addiction can be.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23649234 - 09/16/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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10 year heroin user with about 3 years of clean time within that span , shits a mother fucker . I'm currently 58 days clean...
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: mikeisapro]
#23649537 - 09/16/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
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I used to be addicted pretty bad but now its like once a week.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye] 2
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I think your 3rd eye is quite possibly actually just your asshole.. And that asshole of yours currently happens to be spewing nonsensical, paragraph-free chunks of diarrhea all over this fucking thread. I doubt any junkie past or present is seeking sympathy here (or in general) especially from someone so closeminded and ignorant in every sense of the word.
I will not begin to debate you on your horrendously misinformed and downright mean spirited pov. Its not worth it because i can tell that you believe you have everything all figured out and have obviously never made a mistake. Good luck to you in life amigo, you will certainly need it.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23649625 - 09/16/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
Im quoting you in case you decide to edit. I think everyone deserves to see what kind of an individual you are. Mark my words, something will happen to you eventually in your life, and you will be humbled. Your words here will turn into thousands of daggers that will stab at the very core of your soul. Have a nice day!
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23649643 - 09/16/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
Oh shut the fuck up, opiates aren't some boogeyman. If you can't use opiates responsibly that's on you don't blame a drug for your problems.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23649816 - 09/16/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
How about you fuck of from the Shroomery. Go join the DEA if that is how you feel. You don't know any addicts but you think they are all losers?
You sound like a drug elitist that has no idea what he is talking about. Ask normal people on the street if LSD is a hard drug and most will say it is. Psycadelics are all puppies and rainbows either. There is a sinister side to that too. You aren't any better than us.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#23650047 - 09/16/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said:
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my3rdeye said:
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
How about you fuck of from the Shroomery. Go join the DEA if that is how you feel. You don't know any addicts but you think they are all losers?
You sound like a drug elitist that has no idea what he is talking about. Ask normal people on the street if LSD is a hard drug and most will say it is. Psycadelics are all puppies and rainbows either. There is a sinister side to that too. You aren't any better than us.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23650125 - 09/16/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: Don't like ANY downer at all for recreational highs.
I have never considered opiates a downer, xanax would be a downer for me, I have a very low tolerance for benzos.
Stimulants usually mellow me out, opiates tend to amp me up, of course my brain is wired a bit differently than the average persons.
Anyway, I find it funny how in the opiate thread it says shop for DXM, Kratom, and toilet paper.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23650633 - 09/16/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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mikeisapro said: I find it notable that around a year or so ago The Pub looked down upon opiates/opioids, but based on this thread it seems to be well tolerated and accepted. Established.
Maybe the people who think all you junkies are fucking losers just didn't post in the thread.
How does this happen anyway? I keep hearing this shit about people got hooked after medical use, but every single person here started with recreational use. How does this happen, like how can you be in your 20's and a junkie when everyone has known for 50 years how addictive heroin was? Like if you started in the 1950's and just didn't know that's one thing, but all of you knew before you started how addictive it was. How could you not know? I feel zero sympathy for people who chose to do the most addictive drug. I think you are losers, but worse you make it look like there is a clear progression from weed and psychedelics to opiates. You make those drug war lies true. This place is perfect ammo for the other side and their slippery slope argument. Why not fuck off from the shroomery and stop tainting the good drug scene with your go nowhere suck a dick for a hit culture? I don't know any addicts yet I know 100's of soft drug users, but my experience is apparently rare, when I come here it looks like a huge percent start with weed and become junkies. The people who think this shit is pathetic should be more vocal.
Does it also bother you that people are still racist, when we have known for 50 years that race is bullshit? Do you feel that way about people who smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, which are much more likely to kill you?
You don't know what it is like to feel you need a drug to get through the day, I can respect that, but I don't really respect your complete lack of compassion and empathy. Sometimes being sick alot helps teach you those things believe it or not.
I have always worked and supported my habit. I have good relationships. I am healthy. Why would you resent me? I think you've just exhibited a pension for stigma, which like the "slippery slope" argument, is total bullshit.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: nooneman]
#25014963 - 02/23/18 12:41 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got addicted about a year ago, I liked that first pill too much. I literally stopped getting on the Shroomery about a year ago and lost interest in everything.
I'm very addicted and I've quit for 5 weeks before, but succumbed. I'm one of those people who'll have adverse effects months after because the withdrawals still bothered me that long after.
Currently waiting for some Kratom to wean myself off with it. Or, to at least try..
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: justmethebeast]
#25014968 - 02/23/18 12:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Considering I've been out so long, I did a quick search, this was the first topic that popped up, I didn't realize it was a year old guys. My bad.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: justmethebeast]
#25014969 - 02/23/18 12:46 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: Mandarinfish]
#25017966 - 02/24/18 08:50 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm currently on methadone, 120mg from the clinic. i've been an opiate addict since 1997, too fucking long.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: istandalone]
#25017981 - 02/24/18 09:10 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I developed an opioid addiction primarily through kratom I take 20-30 grams daily. Boofed
Honestly it is really minor when i cant get it, i am a polysubstance addict so i jist do more of other drugs. I got into it because it safely scratches my drug urges.
But its weird to think it has been almost 4 years of near daily use. With 3, 3 month breaks in that time.
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Re: Are you now or have you ever been addicted to opiates? [Re: mapleleafmarijuana]
#25017991 - 02/24/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got addicted to opiates again over a year ago because I was taking Kratom everyday and got bored of it, so I moved onto pills then heroin
I’ve been clean for 3 or 4 months now
If I even try heroin I throw up and the high is not enjoyable
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