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First PF Tek Grow Journal
    #23647434 - 09/15/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've been reading and thinking about growing shrooms for over a year now and a few weeks ago, at 3 a.m. (when I make all my best decisions), I finally took the plunge and bought all the materials. So here I am!
I decided I'd keep an ongoing journal throughout the process so I can hopefully get pointers when I need them and also just share the experience.

I'm mainly following this guide and this guide.

The first bag of vermiculite I bought was a total bust. Do not buy Black Gold! Started over with better verm.

I mixed up 2 parts vermiculite, 1 part brown rice flour, and 1 part water to fill five half-pint wide mouth jars. (Five because that's how many can comfortably fit in my pot.)



I topped the jars off with dry verm, poked holes in the lids, sealed them with aluminum foil, and dropped them in my poor man's pressure cooker for 90 minutes.



After cooling, I inoculated all the jars. Two Brazil, two Cambodian, and one PF Classic. I was pretty careful: I wore gloves and a mask, disinfected everything with 90% isopropyl alcohol, and inoculated them inside a large plastic tub. And my caution paid off! No contamination!

Four days (my first fuzzies!)



One week



I made a shotgun terrarium. All the holes are roughly 2 inches apart, but since I don't have 1/4 inch drill bit, I used a 5.5 millimeter bit. Very slightly smaller, but I imagine that'll be okay.



3 weeks and 5 days after inoculation and the cakes were finally ready to be birthed and dunked!

I had a good amount of condensation in each jar—I know I used too much of the spore solution—but they all looked pretty good otherwise.



The cakes slid out surprisingly easily with no mishaps.



I filled up a large pot with cold water and placed all the cakes in. The pot I used has a steaming insert, so I put that in to keep all the cakes submerged.



I've read that some people put their dunked cakes in the fridge, but I just left mine near a window; that kept them cool enough even if it isn't strictly necessary.

After 24 hours, I rolled the cakes in verm, rinsed and drained the perlite, lined the bottom, and placed my cakes on small aluminum foil squares.



I know I've seen people put aluminum foil under the cakes, but I'm not sure if that's outdated? Any info on that would be really appreciated.

I'm going for a 3:5 ratio of misting and fanning. I've seen some debate about it, but it seems like a good standard.

I'll be adding posts and updating this journal as I go along! Please feel free to offer suggestions and tips!


Edited by TrippyDaze (10/13/16 10:54 AM)


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23647444 - 09/15/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14960167
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3.  Spores are sold for microscopy use only so mycologists can ID mushrooms. If you're going to misuse them to grow a controlled substance, keep it to yourself.  Any post which mentions 'such and such' vendor, will be deleted and you'll receive an official warning.  Do not plug non sponsors.




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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: Greg]
    #23647472 - 09/15/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Far too much water in that mixture. Did you by any chance put 2 parts water in there?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: blackout]
    #23647600 - 09/15/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14960167
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3.  Spores are sold for microscopy use only so mycologists can ID mushrooms. If you're going to misuse them to grow a controlled substance, keep it to yourself.  Any post which mentions 'such and such' vendor, will be deleted and you'll receive an official warning.  Do not plug non sponsors.







Thanks for the info. Removed it.

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Far too much water in that mixture. Did you by any chance put 2 parts water in there?




It seemed like the water content was high, but I'm positive I mixed two cups of vermiculite and one cup of water. Is it possible the finer grain doesn't absorb the water as well?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23647660 - 09/15/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think you should inoculate those, they look way too wet :/


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23647674 - 09/15/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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TrippyDaze said:
Is it possible the finer grain doesn't absorb the water as well?



A very trustworthy user called Anno tested it and his fine stuff held more.

https://www.shroomery.org/5152/Does-fine-vermiculite-hold-more-water-than-coarse
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Test results:

Fine variety:
120 ml vermiculite, weighs 14 g, can hold 54 ml water.
Coarse variety:
120 ml vermiculite, weighs 14 g, can hold 46 ml water.

As you can see, the water holding ability varies considerably between the 2 varieties. If you don't take this into account when preparing substrate, it will be either too wet or too dry.

by Anno




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2:1 ratio by volume. 2 parts verm, one part water. Mix well. This is field capacity.




Not always.  Ambient humidity can have a great effect on the amount of moisture already in the verm.  In addition, a cup of fine verm will hold more water than a cup of course verm.

Field capacity is defined as the amount which when you pick up a handful and squeeze gently, a few drops come out.  If you squeeze hard, a small stream runs out for a moment.

However, verm isn't generally used at field capacity unless it's mixed with manure or coir, etc.
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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: blackout]
    #23647857 - 09/15/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Mixed up more vermiculite and water. Absolutely no doubt on the ratios, but it's still a soupy mess. It's just not absorbing. I'm going to head to the store and get a different brand. Thanks!

Brand made a HUGE difference.

Black Gold



Sta-Green


Edited by TrippyDaze (09/15/16 04:37 PM)


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23647984 - 09/15/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those titties though... very distracting.  :lol:


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23648955 - 09/15/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Inoculation was successful! So glad I started over with the new verm!


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23648973 - 09/15/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The colonizing jars don't have to be in the dark.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: jesustripped]
    #23649010 - 09/15/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow the comparison shot though... that's fuckin crazy.  Will have to remember to tell people to stay the hell away from that stuff.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: Inocuole]
    #23649093 - 09/15/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The black gold looks like it has a bunch of additives


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: give.more]
    #23649099 - 09/15/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like it has a bunch of fuck that shit with a sack of splinter-ended pencils..

Seriously it doesn't even look like it remotely does what verm is supposed to do.  It makes mud.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: Inocuole]
    #23649108 - 09/15/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like it has a bunch of fuck that shit with a sack of splinter-ended pencils..

Seriously it doesn't even look like it remotely does what verm is supposed to do.  It makes mud.




Exactly. There are hints of verm dust floating, but that's the extent of it.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: give.more]
    #23649114 - 09/15/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Now all you gotta do is forget about these cakes and use that verm with some coir and grains and you'll be well set.  I mean, as soon as you're done with the cakes anyway.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: Inocuole]
    #23659100 - 09/19/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Day four and first hints of colonization!

Brazil


PF Classic


Cambodian


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: Inocuole]
    #23659116 - 09/19/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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jesustripped said:
The colonizing jars don't have to be in the dark.




Huh. I'm sure I saw that somewhere, but I have no idea where I read it. Thanks for the info!

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Looks like it has a bunch of fuck that shit with a sack of splinter-ended pencils..

Seriously it doesn't even look like it remotely does what verm is supposed to do.  It makes mud.



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The black gold looks like it has a bunch of additives




Right? The package claims it's pure vermiculite with no additives, but I'm calling bullshit. When I cleaned out my original colonizing jars, it had turned into a sludgy, wet cement mixture. Stay the hell away.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: TrippyDaze]
    #23659144 - 09/19/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i keep jars in my china hutch. gets natural light and things have never colonized
faster. jars in the dark is like sex in the dark. only our grand parents do it.

yay for growth btw.. :sexeh:


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: mushboy]
    #23659149 - 09/19/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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jars in the dark is like sex in the dark. only our grand parents do it.




:lol:


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Re: First PF Tek Grow Journal [Re: mushboy]
    #23659231 - 09/19/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i keep jars in my china hutch. gets natural light and things have never colonized
faster. jars in the dark is like sex in the dark. only our grand parents do it.

yay for growth btw.. :sexeh:




Oh my god! Lol! :lol:
You've convinced me. Jars are out and indecently exposed.

Also, thanks!


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