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lovuasca
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Should I quit psychedelics?
#23647126 - 09/15/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey,
I'm having trouble dealing with some flashbacks lately. Actually, it's been almost a week now and have been getting flashbacks almost everyday. Sometimes I only get some visuals when I wake up. Other times I'm having flashbacks while I'm supposedly sleeping, or trying to fall asleep. I feel I can easily stop the flashbacks when I don't feel like having them most of the times, but two times I did felt derealized for an hour or so after the flashback. Moreover, when the flashback stops, I'm not sleeping so it causes me to wake up in the night a few times sometimes. Some of these flashbacks are just me reliving a part of the trip and are frightening at times as well. So yeah, it is quite a pain in the ass because I don't get a lot of good sleep. Moreover, I tend to feel very spacey during the day at times, especially after having eaten (not always luckely). Now, I've been trying to live more healthy in the hope that this might heal itself more quick. I've also gotten myself into some alternative healing methods (again).
I believe this all has been due to a trip I had that was just waaay to intense. It has been alsmost three weeks that I'd took something before that, so I don't think I tripped too often. What do you guys think? Is it a good idea to quit psychedelics forever? I mean, I'm going to have to miss out on a lot of divine teachings. Is that smart? I mean, I'm feeling like it is getting easier to deal with the flashbacks and they are starting to get less intrusive. So I'm pretty sure they'll fade, even though they're messing me up pretty bad somethimes. Anyway, do you think it would still be possible for this to happen again if I were to try a heroic dose after all flashbacks have faded anyway?
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hobowizard
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: lovuasca]
#23647196 - 09/15/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you're young you should be more careful with psychedelics. either way, don't quit them for ever, make a big break if necessary.
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Psilocypher
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: hobowizard]
#23647352 - 09/15/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends what you mean by psychedelics because it's quite a broad term. I wouldn't recommend anyone take LSD at all but I feel that mushroom eating should be encouraged globally. One is a synthetic accident and the other is a messenger from Earth/God. I've never had flashbacks from any natural substances.
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Sabnock
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Psilocypher]
#23647542 - 09/15/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try 6 drops or so of Lemon EO a day for a bit, helped to ground me after quite the journey with Aya. Xanax could potentially work too, but before you go the benzo route try the Lemon EO. Another thing i've noticed is taking Peganum Harmala seed without DMT has also helped me get more back to normalcy.
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lovuasca
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Psilocypher] 1
#23647691 - 09/15/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocypher said: Depends what you mean by psychedelics because it's quite a broad term. I wouldn't recommend anyone take LSD at all but I feel that mushroom eating should be encouraged globally. One is a synthetic accident and the other is a messenger from Earth/God. I've never had flashbacks from any natural substances.
That's interresting. I keep it with natural psychedelics also. The trip I'm talking about after which the flashbacks started are from ayahuasca though.
Edited by lovuasca (09/15/16 02:47 PM)
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lovuasca
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Sabnock]
#23647717 - 09/15/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: Try 6 drops or so of Lemon EO a day for a bit, helped to ground me after quite the journey with Aya. Xanax could potentially work too, but before you go the benzo route try the Lemon EO. Another thing i've noticed is taking Peganum Harmala seed without DMT has also helped me get more back to normalcy.
I will try the lemon advice. Thanks. Xanax, well... I kind of swore off 'habit-forming' substances. But it seems to me that people abusing Xanax supposedly have a harder time quitting that stuff than heroin addicts. But that's just stuff I find on the internet. Anyway, if other things don't work, I'll definately try the Harmala seeds as well. Thank you very much!
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: lovuasca]
#23647978 - 09/15/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can't form a habit by taking 1 xanax to bring you out of a bad mindset. "Forever" always comes down to today. Just don't do them today if you still feel the same way about them. Eventually this feeling will fade. Good luck friend.
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LuzaW
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if you're asking the question, the answer is probably "yes" at least for a little while.
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: LuzaW]
#23648267 - 09/15/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree, if it affects you in such ways with the flashbacks and possibly HPPD, it'd be a good idea to have a break from them. wait until the flashbacks are over, and don't get to overwhelmed by them, it might be a little scary but it's not a terribly bad side effect.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: LuzaW]
#23648271 - 09/15/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't need to quit, just take a break until you are mentally healthy again and treat them with the respect they deserve next time if there ever is one. I developed PTSD from a trip to a particular person, eventually went away.
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23648277 - 09/15/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: You don't need to quit, just take a break until you are mentally healthy again and treat them with the respect they deserve next time if there ever is one. I developed PTSD from a trip to a particular person, eventually went away.
PTSD? that would have been a bad experience.
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Eclipse3130
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Yeah, I was on my strongest dose of mushrooms lemon tekked and one of my buddies started having a bad trip, and Iwas inexperienced, I had no clue what was going on, time was standing still. Eventually he ended up chasing us down a mountain we hiked letting out murderous grizzly bear roars, every time I saw him after that for about a year, it would give me crippling anxiety and send me into panic,right back into the trip, eventually I worked through it by talking to him.
The trip itself I convinced myself I was dead and was re-watching the experience or re-living the experience of how I was killed by this man. Time was moving backwards at one point, so that further convinced me and everyone was so small like gnomes and dwarfs, my foot steps felt like I could never get anywhere, running from a living nightmare
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Rollin.n.Strollin



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And also it's your decision if you'd like to quit them forever, there are more ways to obtain altered states of consciousness then psychedelics, but I digress, they are spectacular things. So as I said it's your mind, your choice.
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Rollin.n.Strollin



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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23648293 - 09/15/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: Yeah, I was on my strongest dose of mushrooms lemon tekked and one of my buddies started having a bad trip, and Iwas inexperienced, I had no clue what was going on, time was standing still. Eventually he ended up chasing us down a mountain we hiked letting out murderous grizzly bear roars, every time I saw him after that for about a year, it would give me crippling anxiety and send me into panic,right back into the trip, eventually I worked through it by talking to him.
That was a bad thing for him to do, you all good now though?
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Eclipse3130
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Completely 100% fine, it only triggered to that specific person, but was definitely PTSD. He said he was mentally breaking down, forever that roar will remain in my head though, I can hear it now as I type this
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23648316 - 09/15/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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jesus, I remember my first shroom trip, my ex was with me at the time (at her house), I was just chilling on her couch soaking in all the good vibes coming my way, and she started to get all kinky with me. So here we are just having a makeout session, and all of a sudden her head turned into a fractal looking apparition, scared the absolute shit out of me, so for the whole night she was creeping me the fuck out haha.
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Eclipse3130
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Lmao man. Yeah this trip was also the best trip of my life, can't have heaven without a little bit of hell it showed me. It was the worse agonizing terror I've ever experienced, even worse than my bad DMT trip - I literally thought I was already dead just waiting for him to catch up to me and kill me so I can re experience how I died.
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Eclipse3130] 1
#23648333 - 09/15/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is that voice inside you that tells you when you are ready to do them again. You will know when you want to do them again! It's almost as if it's a craving but it's not. That's just what happens to me
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Rollin.n.Strollin



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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Shumbieking]
#23648346 - 09/15/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always become very excited and calm when I'm about to use something, it's like my body knows whats coming.
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LuzaW
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Re: Should I quit psychedelics? [Re: Shumbieking]
#23648567 - 09/15/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shumbieking said: There is that voice inside you that tells you when you are ready to do them again. You will know when you want to do them again! It's almost as if it's a craving but it's not. That's just what happens to me
this is spot on for me as well. i went 30+ years before tripping again. did not have a bad experience, just didn't want to do it for that long.
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