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Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam :)
    #23646840 - 09/15/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

EDIT- although I was concerned and upset by not hearing back or getting tracking for nine days, this vendor is legit and was just too busy.

I apologize for the misunderstanding .

I wanted to ask - unfortunately it appears that a shroomery sponsor who is a Kratom vendor is running an exit scam. They took my money and then stopped all communications .

The kilo should have arrived already and they never even gave any shipping notice and completely stopped replying to my emails.

sadly they Seem to be pulling an exit scam, taking as many payments as they can and not shipping any product or responding to emails.

I don't want other shroomery members to be ripped off.

Can I and should I make a pub post warning people ?

My understanding is that because they are shroomery sponsors it's allowed to discuss them.

This really fucking sucks because I couldn't afford that kilo and won't get another chance to stock up before the ban now.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23646846 - 09/15/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is it possible that they're backed up, and shipping is slow?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Lucis]
    #23646855 - 09/15/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If that was the case all they had to do was reply to my emails and tell me so.

Not only have they not shipped it yet (and they have had several days to do so) the big issue is they were replying to all my emails immediately exactly until they had my money, then instantly stopped replying to any of my emails at all.

I gave them several days just to reply to an email.

They are obviously ignoring me and that strongly suggests they are running an exit scam to me.

If it was just a matter of being behind they only had to write me an email and say so.

But even then there would be no excuse for not even shipping my product a week after taking my money.

I am so frustrated and disappointed . I assumed a shroomery vendor would be trustworthy, and this has ruined my last chance to stock up from a US vendor :sad:

I just don't want others to get ripped off and would like to warn people which vendor it is , just waiting for OK from a Mod to do so.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23646869 - 09/15/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:

Can I and should I make a pub post warning people ?





Little late to be asking that lol

If its true then im sorry to hear that, i was exit scammed before, its a shitty feeling losing money and not being able to do anything


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23646899 - 09/15/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't heard from him either, Moonshoe.  Although he was a little rude when I asked which strains he had, I'm hoping he's just backed up.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23646916 - 09/15/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just got a shipment from a shroomery vendor yesterday that I ordered on Sunday

Emailed them early yesterday to order again and haven't heard anything back


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: plasma]
    #23646948 - 09/15/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My usual kratom go to place would have my order shipped either same day, or next day. When the ban hit, I ordered the next day and it took 10~ days to even ship. But you never know.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: plasma]
    #23646951 - 09/15/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sheeeet. I also made a order for 2 kilos from said vendor on Sunday and haven't heard anything.

I assume they are just backed up with orders. Stuff must be insanely busy for kratom vendors


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647103 - 09/15/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was about to order a $100. kilo or 2 from my guy b-- k----m,
hope they don't flake out on me...:paranoid: . . . :peace:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647117 - 09/15/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

there have been a fair amount of shroomery vendors in the past that were legit for years, then all of a sudden burnt a bunch of people.

this is nothing new


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: demiu5]
    #23647248 - 09/15/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
there have been a fair amount of shroomery vendors in the past that were legit for years, then all of a sudden burnt a bunch of people.

this is nothing new




u should have told everyone this!

i kid i kid.

how many sponsors sell kratom?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: vinsue]
    #23647258 - 09/15/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

vinsue said:
I was about to order a $100. kilo or 2 from my guy b-- k----m,
hope they don't flake out on me...:paranoid: . . . :peace:



They were straight with me. Just took a couple extra days to ship. Enjoying that kilo I got from them very much :thumbup:

Sucks to hear, moon, hope they pull thru.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647282 - 09/15/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The world is good quit being silly. They're really busy right now.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23647290 - 09/15/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I bet they are shipping tons and tons of kratom right meow.

Going out of business sell on a US wide scope.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23647375 - 09/15/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Taking longer to ship is understandable .

Taking my money and then not replying to emails for 4 business days is not.

I can understand being backed up on shipping but there is no excuse for not replying to emails from a customer after you already took their money.

It's either a scam or unacceptable abysmal customer service.

All I ask was a quick email saying "sorry we are backed up"

But when they aren't replying to emails for 3+ Days that's
Unacceptable to me and suggests an exit scam.

Since no one said I can't, I'll tell everyone I am talking about world seed supply .

Even if they eventually deliver I could never recommend anyone deal with a company that takes your money and then doesn't Even answer your Emails .

The second they deposited my money they went silent .

That screams scam .


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647420 - 09/15/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I really doubt world seed supply has scammed you moon. The customer service is definitely not good if 4 days and no reply, but maybe something happened?

I just doubt you got scammed though. Hopefully they respond soon.

If you did get scammed well hopefully they remove them as sponsor, I just doubt it.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23647452 - 09/15/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS has taken weeks to reply to me before. Otherwise everything was great.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23647458 - 09/15/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I sent them an email and they responded quite quickly. In under 1 1/2 hours.
There was a small mistake we cleared up and they told me my package would be sent out next day at the latest.
They were quite rude however, so I won't be ordering anything else from them.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647467 - 09/15/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Be smart buying kratom at this point. Ive heard of alot of OG legit vendors running scams right now because they have no incentive otherwise. I know of atleast one well known company that has been sending bunk kratom.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647470 - 09/15/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS arnt the type of people that would screw anyone over and yeah I'm a really cynical fuck.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx]
    #23647481 - 09/15/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Be smart buying kratom at this point. Ive heard of alot of OG legit vendors running scams right now because they have no incentive otherwise.






wait, you mean running a legitimate, honest, and professional business which has high customer satisfaction isn't an incentive?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: demiu5]
    #23647483 - 09/15/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
    #23647485 - 09/15/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.






bullshit


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647574 - 09/15/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I recieved one package today. 

The other sent a message saying they were in DC for the rally and are going to start shipping tmrw.  Relax.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: demiu5]
    #23647633 - 09/15/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

hex_enduction said:
Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.






bullshit




Used to be an incentive. Now their business is gone. If you are making a morality argument, you're right. Money talks though and I have no doubt some of the bigger players wouldn't mind a little extra for retirement if it meant burning people.

It also makes a perfect time to say 'just relax, things are just backed up. Until you relax yourself into the plant being illegal and the vendor never speaking to you again.

Just saying, buyer beware. Id be pissed if a vendor didnt have the common courtesy to send a 15 second email saying 'backed up, its coming!' Although if you are talking about world seed supply maybe they have enough incentive to stay in the game because they sell other products unlike some of the kratom only websites.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx] * 2
    #23647647 - 09/15/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

But if these vendors have a lot of product, why would they scam? They'd want it gone & they're targets.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23647659 - 09/15/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS replied in his marketplace thread. As I said Moon I really odn't think he's trying to scam you. I can imagine hundreds of emails takes a while to answer

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World Seed Supply said:
I appreciate all of those who are backing us up. We've been a sponsor for over 7 years here. Most of the orders have all one out next day despite the insane volume. We just spent 2 days in DC to attend the march on behalf of this effort. It def does not help our workload, but we needed to be there.

We have hundreds of emails. We're not answering the phone now in an effort to keep up. Doesn;t mean you're getting scammed. Most of the tiem the order is already shipped, and you just didnt get the tracking. When you send us an angry message because you cannot be patient, it makes me want to cancel your order. We're working far too hard and offering way too good of a deal to listen to complaints. This is not a normal situation, so be reasonable. We have many times the normal workload. I have no problem with polite inquiries. But leave some time before you email because it slows down the process to reply. If you accuse us of scamming, then you're being unreasonable because far too many people have reported here that they are happy, and many many people have reordered.




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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647693 - 09/15/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS sells way more than just kratom. They wouldn't exit scam because 90% of their business is totally legitimate and legal. I bet kratom isn't even the majority of their profit. Also, they've been nothing but extremely kind and helpful in all the interactions I've had with them.

I'm sure they're just busy. 4 days isn't a lot of time.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: nooneman] * 5
    #23647712 - 09/15/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS should exit scam moonshoe for making this thread.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23647759 - 09/15/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly even if they aren't running a scam, not taking 30 seconds to reply to a paying customers emails for four entire business days is completely unacceptable , especially because they had absolutely no problem replying to all my emails within a few minutes until EXACTLY the second they deposited my money .

It was literally instant replies, take my money, and then not another word for four business days .

At that point fuck them scammers or not. All they had to do was reply to my email and I would have been put at ease . I gave them plenty of time to explain themselves .

If they need to hire someone to help them with emails or whatever fine that's not my problem.

If you take more than a hundred dollars of my money, you owe me a certain level of customer service .

if you are too busy to reply to my emails don't take my money.

And when you reply to me until the instant you have my cash and then abruptly ignore me for basically an entire work week, fuck you, scammer or not.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647819 - 09/15/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tbh I think it was oversight.  As soon as I saw this thread I shot an email and he immediately responded.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647827 - 09/15/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Look at it this way- say I text my weed dealer and he says he will sell me a half ounce of weed for 100 dollars. We text back and forth and make a deal and he is replying to every text within a few minutes of me sending it. We finalize the deal and I e transfer him the agreed hundred dollars.

And then I hear nothing. I wait a few days and text him to ask when he can drop off.

No answer.

I was a day and text again. I say I am starting to worry.

No answer. I wait another day and say I'm starting to feel like he might be ripping me off.

No answer .

Four entire business days go by, a total Of a week has passed since I paid him and not only has he not delivered the weed, he hasn't even taken ten seconds to reply to my Text.

Obviously anyone in this situation would feel concerned they were being ripped off.

After all if they weren't planning to scam me, why wouldn't they simply text and say "sorry running a bit behind "

Anyone should realize that when you answer someone's emails right up to the second you get their money and then ignore them for an entire business week, you are sending a strong message of disrespect at best, dishonesty at worst .

Any time anyone is talking to you until they get your money then suddenly can't be reached and hasn't given you what you paid for, they absolutely have a responsibility to at least stay in communication with you.

And yeah maybe your busy for one or two days max. But as a
Corporation or business , failing to send a 30 second email
To a Paying customer in four entire business days isn't even close
To acceptable .

I trusted them and gave them tons of chances to simply email
Me and explain themselves . By not doing so they forced me to fear a scam and that gave me a responsibility to warn others .

Even If I knew they weren't scamming me, which I don't , I would still warn people not to deal with them.

If I had gone with my usual vendor I would have recieved my Kratom three days ago.

But that's not the problem, the problem is someone simply can't have my money and then be unresponsive and unreachable.

Anyone would feel the same way. If I pay anyone for anything and then they stop taking my calls as
Soon as they have my money, anyone is going to feel like they are being  fucked over .

If your running behind on shipping that is no excuse for completely ignoring someone's email when you are holding their money and they are empty handed, not for one, two or three business days but four business days and counting.

I even explained how worried I was and that I was starting to fear a scam and gave them multiple chances
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647848 - 09/15/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

At first I'd probably feel like that, as soon as they released an announcement that pertains to the exact problem im having with them id just get over it and be happy i didnt get scammed instead of taking it up a notch.

You act like theyre plotting against you, chances are they have a large customer base and they dont even know or remember you or think about you, you're just a nobody with money to them, thats what business is. Yeah its annoying not getting a response for that long but now you got one, so i wouldnt take it personally that it wasnt directed to you specifically because their response makes it sound like its more then just you it happened to

Shit happens when youre that busy and you get stressed as fuck, they probably didnt intend to ignore you, unless you were insulting to them which they covered in their response


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 3
    #23647860 - 09/15/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If it'll get you to stop posting the same thing over & over, post your email address and I will email you on their behalf.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23647896 - 09/15/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS is legit. They have simply been slamed with orders given the upcoming legal status of Kratom. You and everybody else who likes Kratom is buying from them. I suspect they are a one or two man team who are not used to this high volume of orders. I had minimal responses after my second order but all arrived as ordered and I will order through them again.

OP have some patience and faith. These guys have a well established business and would gain nothing from ripping you off of a measly $100. They have been an upstanding sponsor of this site for 7 years.

Not to mention they flew out to go help protest the ban for two days during all of this.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #23647901 - 09/15/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I kinda thought BK was running an exit scam, just because in my head it made sense logically that they would, but they didn't.  Just got my order today that I placed around the 1st.  Used to take a couple days from payment to delivery.

It must suck to work there now.  I bet they wear respirators or at least dustmasks dealing with all that powder.  Shit's so fine, and I can tell there is a fine krat coating on the bags even tho they are sealed and unopened.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23647942 - 09/15/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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WSS arnt the type of people that would screw anyone over and yeah I'm a really cynical fuck.

Fun fact: "cynical" comes from an ancient word for dog which referred to the canine behavior of always sniffing their food before eating it.




Agreed. Being that they don't exclusively do kratom and they are encouraging users to look into some of their other products like akuamma seeds, they DO have incentive to keep honest business. Moonshoe, they are completely fucking swamped right now and quickly running out of certain supplies. If there was a mistake and they took payment for a supply they no longer have keep whatever receipts emails and bank charges you have, I'm almost certain they would at least refund you after the kratom krazy is over.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23647944 - 09/15/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I just got my order from them today too, also placed on 9.01.  They wouldn't exit scam, they're real solid.  And I believe I read that they're just taking the business to the EU. 

To be fair though, I do understand the foundation of moonshoe's concerns.  I've been watching for exit scams in the krat community since the ban was announced.  None of the reliable vendors are going that route, not yet at least.  We'll see come 9.30.  I have heard rumors of shady dealings from some people about the more "fly by night" sellers, but all the ones I would ever buy from have been making good.  Including WSS/kratom collection.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647950 - 09/15/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Clam down m8

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23648034 - 09/15/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I vouch for WSS.  They were amazing to deal with and far too trustworthy for you to ever consider "scam"....regardless of your measly 4 days you've been in the dark.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23648051 - 09/15/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Damn thats fucked man...

Should move this thread to the sponsors forum


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23648058 - 09/15/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If I was WSS supply in this situation I would prioritize Larger orders over small.A one ki order is insignificant and I may ignore if I'm getting many 10ki+ orders.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23648312 - 09/15/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If I was WSS supply in this situation I would prioritize Larger orders over small.A one ki order is insignificant and I may ignore if I'm getting many 10ki+ orders.
Just a thought.





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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23648391 - 09/15/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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To be fair though, I do understand the foundation of moonshoe's concerns.  I've been watching for exit scams in the krat community since the ban was announced.  None of the reliable vendors are going that route, not yet at least.  We'll see come 9.30.  I have heard rumors of shady dealings from some people about the more "fly by night" sellers, but all the ones I would ever buy from have been making good.  Including WSS/kratom collection.




not true, check out the kratom forums. I have seen multiple reports of a well known vendors sending bunk kratom and telling people to fuck off when they brought it to their attention. I get it though, there is no time for customer service right now. Many vendors are stating no returns and going toward bitcoin. Just exercise caution and read before buying right now.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx]
    #23648494 - 09/15/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I must've missed it all.  I rarely use that kratom site. Just checked now, went like 4 pages back & didnt see anything about that, but I don't doubt that it's happening.  There are a lot of shady vendors out there.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx] * 3
    #23648495 - 09/15/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

KREXIT


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    #23648506 - 09/15/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, WSS is legit. I've bought live kratom plants from him, as well as his last batch of mang dae. Their order volume is through the roof, so don't hassle em. All the ppl bitching obviously haven't been in the business of production and sales during a fire sale. Their probably a "mom and pop" style company who don't have numerous sales associates, telephone operators, production workers, packagers and such.  Their a sponsor on our website and we need to appreciate the fact that their being screwed by big pharm and are forced to scramble and dump their product b4 the end of the month. I highly doubt their making anything off us, in fact, their probably lucky to break even. 35+ ounces of pure Kratom for $85.00?! Seriously ppl?!  How much you guys paying per ounce? Cause where I'm at, it sure as shit isn't $2.50 an ounce.  They were in DC for the Kratom March (which I imagine no one, including myself, was at)  fighting to try and keep the stuff that you guys are bitching about legal so we can continue to get it. He's a sponsor on this site, so show some respect. How much you paying a month to be on the shroomery? Just like me, not a dime. But he is...
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23648523 - 09/15/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like moonshoe is going through Kratom withdrawl... Tell you what, I'll sell you one of the kilos I got for 400$. I'll even throw in shipping, AND I'll send ya a daily email telling you to...relaxxxxxx


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Wrath]
    #23648659 - 09/15/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Let's say that was a sarcastic post. I also edited your post (Danielx) which mentioned a (very) popular message board, it can't be referenced in the context of sourcing.

I wouldn't doubt some vendors would exit scam (drop shippers most especially), but I don't see any mention of someone sending out bunk product either. I have one vendor in mind, but he can't be mentioned there period because he sucks.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: DustBunny]
    #23648711 - 09/15/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You cant say that word on the shroomery but people talk darknet markets all day long? Bizarre, but ok.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23648722 - 09/15/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx] * 1
    #23648805 - 09/15/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We can't mention active markets, vendors, or source forums (including those on that site) either actually, please report them if you see any. Ethnobotanical vendors may not be as big of a potential liability as RC or illegal sourcing forums, but it lowers incentive for good vendors to pay to advertise here (i.e. our sponsors).


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: DustBunny]
    #23649027 - 09/15/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

IE dont name the sponsors by name specificly.

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    #23649034 - 09/15/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23649385 - 09/16/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23649392 - 09/16/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi, I'm running a Shroomery sponsored pre-ban kratom exit scam, AMA.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: DustBunny]
    #23649408 - 09/16/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 5
    #23649452 - 09/16/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Is it possible that they're backed up, and shipping is slow?





Hmm I wonder?
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I bet they are shipping tons and tons of kratom right meow.

Going out of business sell on a US wide scope.





And perhaps some of you do not have access to the marketplace, but there's about 5 post there to discreit this whole scam theory, and even more years a a sponsor here. We have over 700 products. Kratom is one. We put up a very good price on kratom = lots of business. Kratom  is being banned= lots of business. People and vendors are looking for new herbs= lots of business. Lots of business= even more emails. We went to DC to fight the ban = super backed up. We're getting several hundred emails per day. Phone calls non-stop, even at unreasonable hours. We've basically, aside from going down to DC, been working non-stop with a bit of a break to sleep some nights. If you have an issue with your order, it's going to take longer to solve and may not get dealt with right away. We're just trying to clear out, then we will back track. When we get pages of emails per day, they come in too fast to answer from the back, so they get buried.

So if anyone has anything to say, please show them this. We could have answered 5 emails in the time it took to write this. If there's a problem with your order, ask politely. Try to hold off asking in an effort to reduce volume of mail....AND if you write a nasty email or accuse me of scamming, I am inclined to move on to a more pleasant email or just cancel the order. I try to take care of customers. We've offered some of the greatest deals around. When everyone jacked up plant prices, we didn't. We're not just in it for the money, so with that said, we are not getting paid enough to have to deal with rudeness or anger. Have some patience, extreme patience if you must, and we will take care of everyone.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: World Seed Supply]
    #23649457 - 09/16/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All be damned :justastonishing:

This turn of events has me speechless.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23653490 - 09/17/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So WSS finally replied to my email , it took a full business week to hear from them, but they told me they shipped the kilo.

So no, they are not scamming. But I have never had any other vendor I have ever dealt with not reply to my email for this long..

I would encourage WSS to improve their customer service and responsiveness, as I would never have made this post or had this concern if they had stayed in touch with me.

I understand you are busy, but other vendors manage to stay in communication.

If you did the same, this would not have been an issue.

If you have a backlog, maybe hire someone to help you out?

Thanks for finally answering my email.

Not scammers. Thanks for doing what you could to fight for kratom.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 3
    #23653525 - 09/17/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: you really think now is the time for a kratom vendor to be hiring additional staff?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 14
    #23653555 - 09/17/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Moonshoe, good news.  They just hired me to tell you to shut your pie hole.  So that's covered.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23653708 - 09/17/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol Amen!
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23653749 - 09/17/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Moonshoe, good news.  They just hired me to tell you to shut your pie hole.  So that's covered.




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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23653906 - 09/17/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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So WSS finally replied to my email , it took a full business week to hear from them, but they told me they shipped the kilo.

So no, they are not scamming. But I have never had any other vendor I have ever dealt with not reply to my email for this long..

I would encourage WSS to improve their customer service and responsiveness, as I would never have made this post or had this concern if they had stayed in touch with me.

I understand you are busy, but other vendors manage to stay in communication.

If you did the same, this would not have been an issue.

If you have a backlog, maybe hire someone to help you out?

Thanks for finally answering my email.

Not scammers. Thanks for doing what you could to fight for kratom.

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Unwad your panties man. A kilo oh wow, that's high on their priority list.. especially an irate Canadian to whom they've already shipped. Good job running a smear campaign over a great vendor. Damn Daniel.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 12
    #23654018 - 09/17/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I lost a lot of respect for you moonshoe :frown:

It's clear you made this thread to purposefully grab their attention...all by smearing their name to do it.  And all because you have your panties in a twist over 4 business days :facepalm:

And then you don't even have the balls (or good character) to apologize properly...instead, holding your ground and defending your shameful smearing and actions.


Shame on you moonshoe.


There is NOTHING further you can say to justify your behaviour, so don't try....unless you want to look like even more of an ass than you've already been :shrug:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked] * 6
    #23654019 - 09/17/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe its just me but this struck me as typical Moonshoe behavior :shrug:


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    #23654050 - 09/17/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yup.  Haha, some poor soul is married to that guy.  Can you imagine what that's like?  :uhoh:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23654051 - 09/17/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Other vendors manage to stay in communication? How many of the cheapest vendors have you communicated with since the ban was announced? The most popular U.S. wholesaler quickly added a header "DISPATCH TIME 5-10 DAYS", much smaller vendors have reported receiving 100+ orders per day. I know at least one good smaller vendor like that has not been able to keep up with e-mails, and I really, really doubt the biggest vendors have been able to.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654083 - 09/17/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

not to pile on but this thread was just hyper retarded paranoia. why tha fuck would  a vendor sacrifice their business just to offload some Kratom? If they didn't deliver they would just get bombed by charge backs. And a couple ki of kratom? Jumping down someones throat over such a measly amount of drugs? Not a dude I'd want to trip with if the paranoia switch goes off.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23654096 - 09/17/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

dont trust a website just because they are a shroomery sponsor. lol.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Adolin]
    #23654101 - 09/17/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23654142 - 09/17/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I still remember when a certain shroomery vendor doxxed one of their customers who made a bad review in the marketplace. Even though the review was mostly just the person jumping to conclusion like this thread, I thought for sure the shroomery would reprimand them for it or maybe cut them as a sponsor. A mod just deleted it and swept it all under the rug.

I wont name any names because im sure it'll just get modded, but I definitely lost alot of respect for those involved. A business publicly posting someones name and address online is bad enough,but posting on the shroomery when you know that person bought stuff for a grow is a major violation of trust.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx]
    #23654148 - 09/17/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I remember that, when Lana posted a customer's name & address.  That was crazy.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23654163 - 09/17/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I remember that, when Lana posted a customer's name & address.  That was crazy.




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    #23654172 - 09/17/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx]
    #23654199 - 09/17/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also apparently Ralphster, another former sponsor, sent out many crap spore syringes to people.  He is no longer a sponsor.


But this thread, in the midst of what is going on with kratom, is kinda goofy.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
    #23654219 - 09/17/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Doesn't another vendor just straight rip people off or send everything as B+/inert? I forget their name. Spores101 or something.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
    #23654230 - 09/17/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23654236 - 09/17/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are obviously welcome to your opinion. I didn't run any "smear" campaign, I was legitimately concerned when a vendor I had no prior experience with compketely stopped communicating with me for an entire business week as soon as they got my money, with no shipping or tracking info sent.

All other vendors I have dealt with have stayed in communication, answered emails within 24 hours, shipped within 24-48 hours, and provided tracking info in the same window of time.

All I did was share with you guys exactly my experience, and I did so honestly.

I wouldn't deal with this vendor again when all my other vendors are far faster and stay in communication.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: plasma]
    #23654241 - 09/17/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea plasma, ralphster was the only vendor I ever used, I stopped growing a few years and come back and find out he became a scammer.  Most recently I used sporeworks which I recommend.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654282 - 09/17/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When was the last time you used another vendor? Because I would be surprised if it was in the last 17~ days if you have more then 1 recent order with WSS...

Also, WSS's add was just the banner while I posted that.

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They are advertising off your thread :rofldrunk:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: musiclover420]
    #23654286 - 09/17/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A day before I ordered from WSS, I ordered a kilo from my usual vendor. They sent  tracking same day, kilo arrived 24 hours later. Emails responded to within a few hours.

The difference between that and what I got with WSS is why I was worried. Compared to all other vendors I have dealt with, their lack of responsiveness was alarming.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: musiclover420]
    #23654289 - 09/17/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys are obviously welcome to your opinion. I didn't run any "smear" campaign, I was legitimately concerned when a vendor I had no prior experience with compketely stopped communicating with me for an entire business week as soon as they got my money, with no shipping or tracking info sent.

All other vendors I have dealt with have stayed in communication, answered emails within 24 hours, shipped within 24-48 hours, and provided tracking info in the same window of time.

All I did was share with you guys exactly my experience, and I did so honestly.

I wouldn't deal with this vendor again when all my other vendors are far faster and stay in communication.

You guys are welcome to do whatever you want, but I don't regret sharing my experience and concerns.



You don't have to regret anything I was just saying though as a dude in the business sector I see it differently and the vendor probably doesn't have hard feelings anyway, this is free advertising.

What could've happened is he seen your e-mail and knew he was taking care of it and you'd end up with the product :shrug:.  With everything going on with kratom I'd imagine the business is just trying to offload whatever is left and answering e-mails for orders they know are being fulfilled isn't in the list of top 5 priorities.  Could it be better customer service?  Maybe, but again, look what is happening with kratom...


In the end it sounds like everyone got what they wanted :shrug:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
    #23654293 - 09/17/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

why did you order multiple kilos from multiple vendors lol


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
    #23654301 - 09/17/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because I am trying to stock up before the ban.

And yeah, it was a misunderstanding and its all cleared up now. No harm done to anyone.

All I did was post my experiences and concerns.

I don't see any reason for the hostility regarding that as I was just trying to help other shroomery members by sharing exactly what happened to me.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 6
    #23654310 - 09/17/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You left out the part where the one vendor you ordered from is in Canada and going about business as usual, whereas the other vendor has the overwhelming amount of orders, problems, and headaches that happens when there is an upcoming ban of a substance.

Can you imagine, you go from one day doing 10 orders a day, to doing over 100 in one day? With no time to prepare? It can be extremely overwhelming, and there is no time to hire more staff or anything of the sort. To be honest, I think WSS handled it quite well. If you followed their thread in the Marketplace sub forum you would never had to make this thread dude.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23654313 - 09/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Was the 24 hour vendor Canadian I assume? If so that might explain why they are not as rushed as many others right now.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654315 - 09/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No hostility, fuck the war on drugs.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23654344 - 09/17/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have never so much as glanced at the marketplace forum.
As busy as they were they answered all my emails quickly and easily until the moment they had my money then I couldn't get a word out of them for nine full days .
It was a misunderstanding but an understandable one that could have been avoided with more responsive customer service .

Yes my vendor is in Canada . But wss told me they would be shipping to me from within Canada as well.

I would like to point out I said "possible exit exam " and listed the reasons for my concern. Note the word possible , and that even Burke said he understood the basis of my concerns .

If I had had any other positive experiences with WSS I wouldn't have been worried but unfortunately I didn't . This was my first encounter with them, and compared to all my other experiences with vendors including us vendors in the past , it was alarmingly different - the customer service was night and day.

I was worried , I waited as long as I could before become concerned, and I posted my experience . Several people PMd me to sympathize and say it was whack how I was treated. So several posters felt the same way I did about it.

As soon as things were cleared up I posted that. So I have been completely accurate and fair .


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654354 - 09/17/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

move along. nothing to see here.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 3
    #23654554 - 09/18/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It was a misunderstanding but an understandable one




Yeah, exactly...kratom is becoming illegal in the states and the volume and frenzy surrounding this is insane.  Any sane and reasonable person would understand this.

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I would like to point out I said "possible exit exam " and listed the reasons for my concern.




Oh, ok...all is forgiven...you use the word "possible". :rolleyes:

So if I went around saying you were a possible pedophile and listed my concerns for such an accusation, it makes it okay...even after it's proven I was being obtuse and ignorant?

(I know you aren't, but it's just an example to convey my point)

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I was worried , I waited as long as I could before become concerned




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I have never so much as glanced at the marketplace forum.




Your lack of foresight to browse the marketplace isn't their problem.

You got your panties in a twist over 4 business days.

And you will never fool me.  You knew the pub thread would get their attention and they'd come in to defend themselves.  And it got the result you want...an email.  And they already explained more than once that the time they spent dealing with your ignorant and hot headed antics, caused a dozen other emails and orders to get buried in this kratom frenzy.  :themoreyouknow:


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As soon as things were cleared up I posted that.




And you did it still feeling justified in smearing their name to get it cleared up, on a timeline that works for you.

I say again, shame on you.  I thought you were a man of character that took the high road.

I said it before and I'll say it again.  You have no justifiable reason for your actions.  IMO, You were NOT looking out for other people by creating this thread. 

The bottom line is that 4 business days went by and they weren't responding to your stage 5 clinger correspondence in the midst of the kratom frenzy in the states.  And that got your "armageddon" side of your brain in a defensive panic.  One that felt the gloves were off and it was time to go on the offensive.  One where you felt that any damage potentially caused by this thread would be worth it if you got a reply.

And you did.

And now you feel you've "won" and all is well and you can just take it all back, while still managing to condemn their customer service.


That's what I see at least.  Maybe I'm alone on that :shrug:

Either way, it seems you got your end result so me chastising your piss poor behaviour really doesn't solve anything.  It just drags this out with no productive end.  So I've said my piece and will leave it at that.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked]
    #23654577 - 09/18/16 12:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Masked, its nice that you thought I was a person of character. To be honest, I don't know or recognize you at all.

You can be as mad at me as you like. The simple fact is, I paid them then didn't hear a word from them for nine full days, a full business week.

I have never experienced anything like that with any other company, corporation, business or vendor I have ever worked with.

I got worried, I made several attempts to contact them and heard nothing.

To me, the amount of time it took to get a response was unreasonable.

I posted my honest thoughts and feelings.

Hate on me all you want. I did what seemed right to me, and updated the thread as soon as I heard otherwise.

I can't say your opinion of me matters to me, in all honesty.

If I did wrong here, it was not with any malicious intent.

I honestly thought I got ripped off. I honestly thought others might too. I honestly wanted to warn people that as far as I could tell, my money had been taken, my product had not been shipped, and I was being ignored.

This happened because I have never had any other vendor or business ignore my emails for a full business week, or any vendor fail to send a simple shipping notification letting me know my product was in fact on the way.

I am glad I was wrong. I doubt any harm was done to anyone by this thread. If people read this thread and decided not to use this vendor, it was probably because they too found a nine day wait for a shipping notification or an email response was unacceptable.



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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23654584 - 09/18/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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:lol: you really think now is the time for a kratom vendor to be hiring additional staff?




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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654586 - 09/18/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thinking about still getting some. Do y'all think it's too late in the game to still order?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23654601 - 09/18/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yup.  Haha, some poor soul is married to that guy.  Can you imagine what that's like?  :uhoh:




Burke, I shouldn't really dignify this pathetic post with a response, and its off-topic here, but my wife and I literally have the happiest and healthiest marriage of any couple we have ever seen.

Several of our friends have told me that our relationship showed them what love could be, and that they had never seen true love like we have.

We have been together ten years and we are deeply in love with each other.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654611 - 09/18/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did you miss the part where I said that you have ZERO justification for your pissy pants behaviour?  Or do you need me to repeat it again?

I've been around here a long time and only in the past year have really noticed you.  You seemed like a pretty stand up individual to me.

Whether you care or not is irregardless...shame on you.

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his happened because I have never had any other vendor or business ignore my emails for a full business week




So it was 4 business days when you originally created this smear thread, but now you are bumping it up to 5...why?  When you created this thread, that 5th day didn't exist yet.  So why feel the need to include it in a defense for the original post in question?  :strokebeard:


Shit happens moonshoe.  And among all the well known kratom frenzy AND the continually updated thread in the marketplace, 5 business days is peanuts.

I say again:

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The bottom line is that 4 business days went by and they weren't responding to your stage 5 clinger correspondence in the midst of the kratom frenzy in the states.  And that got your "armageddon" side of your brain in a defensive panic.  One that felt the gloves were off and it was time to go on the offensive.  One where you felt that any damage potentially caused by this thread would be worth it if you got a reply.






The only thing unacceptable in this whole equation is your lack of patience, your understanding and quite frankly, your tact.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654613 - 09/18/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Shouldn't it be possible to set up an automatic shipping notification system? I seem to get automatic shipping notifications from all other vendors I use. If I had simply got an automatically generated email saying "your product has been shipped" then this misunderstanding would never have occurred.

Surely the technology is available.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked]
    #23654618 - 09/18/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In total, I waited nine days, two weekend days and seven business days, before I got any kind of shipping notification or response.

I get it dude, you don't like that I made this thread. I understand that.

But I did make this thread, and I thought it was the right thing to do when I did it, so what are you going to do?

I apologize to anyone who feels wronged by my posts for any reason.

Everything I said was sincere. I wasn't trying to slander a legitimate business, I was just saying I hadn't heard a damn thing and I was worried.

Wrongly as it turned out, and now that has been established.

I thought the marketplace was just where sheekle sold his tye dye shirts and people traded cactuses.

I didn't know it had anything to do with vendors.

The simple fact is, I really thought I had been scammed.

Maybe that was crazy of me. I have been known to be crazy.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654623 - 09/18/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So now we need an automatic shipping notification in place, just so we don't have to hold you responsible for your unneccesary and tactless emotionally driven outbursts?


I don't hold them responsible for this "misunderstanding".  Not when it's clear whats happening in kratom land and not when there was a perfectly updated thread from said vendor in marketplace.

I hold you and your unneccessary actions(this thread) responsible.


ehh, whatever, i'm just dragging nothing on for the sake of arguing at this point. 


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The simple fact is, I really thought I had been scammed.




Ok, well i think you jumped the gun WAY to early and took the gloves off and went on the offensive, way to early.  I just saw it as tactless.

I'll leave it be.  You did what you felt you needed to do and got the result you wanted.  I don't agree with it, but meh.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
    #23654625 - 09/18/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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PreparationH said:
Also apparently Ralphster, another former sponsor, sent out many crap spore syringes to people.  He is no longer a sponsor.


But this thread, in the midst of what is going on with kratom, is kinda goofy.





Ralphster is a scumbag. He is still operating his site, and scamming everyone, not even sending product. The BBB has several complaints. He stole ~$50 from me last year or so when I wanted to get back into the hobby

This the Canadian side, but I emailed the US side many times asking why they associate with such a person and they always ignored me.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked]
    #23654630 - 09/18/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your mad at me. You think I did wrong. I get it.

Maybe I did.

But I didn't think I was doing anything wrong at the time.

If I fucked up, I am sorry.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23654674 - 09/18/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You are mistaking my bluntness as emotional investment.

I'm not angry with you moonshoe.

A little disappointed initially.

But at the end of the day, just throwing my 2 cents in and I don't mean to drag this on.

I'm glad it's showing up for you.  I too need to order some.  A shroomerite gifted me a small bag before and I enjoyed it.  It was subtle but I liked it.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked] * 1
    #23654679 - 09/18/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

With the benefit of hindsight, It now seems I made a mistake, and I emailed the vendor to apologize.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say.

Unfortunately, from where I was standing prior to friday, things looked and felt very different.

There are MANY things in life that in retrospect I would do differently.

Sadly, I can only blunder through life with the most strength, discipline and compassion I can muster, and try not to be overwhelmed with the burden of my innumerable mistakes.

To be honest, this doesn't even rate on my list of regrets, but I do apologize to the vendor and the community nevertheless.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23654682 - 09/18/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't feel it was a huge blunder either in the grand scheme of things.

We all get emotionally charged sometimes.

Especially when waiting...especially when even being ignored perhaps.


And eating crow isn't easy.  You already mentioned it means nothing to you, but that earns my respect back and then some :raisemyglass:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked] * 1
    #23654744 - 09/18/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you sir. :japsmile:

To be a person of discipline and character and moral quality is my sincere quest.

Lately I have noticed a tendency to fly off the handle when for the last 28 years I was notoriously calm and placid.

I have conjectured that my increased martial arts and workout regimine, watching UFC constantly, taking a testosterone catalyst and eating a testosterone-producing diet have all been factors in my new tendency to get angry.

As a result, I find myself apologizing more often as well.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23655559 - 09/18/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Moonshoe, I feel bad that your getting such a tough time from anyone, I'd be concerned too if I didn't get any communication for a week, but after looking at the information supplied by us all about the kratom situation (how it's become banned, so everyone is scrambling to buy as much as they can, causing WWS to be bombarded at the last minute with hundreds of orders, how everyone has vouched for them, and the fact that they've Been a reliable source for years with positive reviews. And that their not a large business with dozens of employees), we'd hope that you realized that it's an uncommon situation/thing for them to take a longer time to communicate.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Wrath]
    #23655579 - 09/18/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, now that I have heard from them, its all worked out. They aren't scamming, they are a legit vendor, and they come through.

It was a misunderstanding for which I have apologized. I understand the unusual circumstances that resulted in the lapse in communication.

Being totally broke at the moment, the apparent loss of the money I spent on the kilo freaked me out more than it would usually.

I was also freaked out by the impending ban, and wanted to make sure I got my last kilo from the states before it was too late, so when I didn't hear anything for a week i worried.

I edited the thread title and the OP to reflect that it was my mistake.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23655617 - 09/18/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Doesn't Kratom come from Asia?

Why does it being banned in America effect you so much moonshoe? Surely there are vendors outside the states, or vendors planning on moving to a more tolerable nation.

I feel for all the Kratom heads out there. Sad day for humanity.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23655622 - 09/18/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have domestic vendors, but they are more expensive than the US vendors with sometimes worse product.

Far quicker delivery and service though, reliable and fast.

I don't know if the US ban will effect canada, or if Canada will follow the US in imposing a ban.

I just love kratom so much that when I heard of the ban I felt the need to stock up, just in case.

As a survivalist and prepper, a large supply is desirable anyways. Stocking up before the ban just seemed right to me.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23655628 - 09/18/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Canada usually does follow in our footsteps, so you're probably fucked.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23655634 - 09/18/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If Stephen Harper was still in power, absolutely.

Having Justin Trudeau in power, who is moving to legalize weed and recently legalized prescription heroin, I honestly dont think we will, but I am not taking any chances just in case.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23655665 - 09/18/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good call on fixing the thread title Moonshoe.


It was kinda funny seeing you and Masked both say you hadn't really taken notice of each other until recently, I swear I've been mixing the two of you up in my mind for years. Both from Canada (I think?), names both start with a capital M, gone through a few avatars that blur together in my mind, etc.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: psi] * 2
    #23655806 - 09/18/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Plot twist: they're both the same person suffering from some sort of personality disorder/acute clinical insanity. :mindblown:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: psi] * 1
    #23656060 - 09/18/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am easy to recognize because my avatar is always a mantis and my title is always blue marks z

Happily I now know masked, and like and respect him.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23656174 - 09/18/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sh4d0ws said:
Can you imagine, you go from one day doing 10 orders a day, to doing over 100 in one day?




This. Say each order takes an optimistic 10 minutes to pack. At 100 orders per day, that's over 16 and a half hours just preparing shipments. Not including accepting orders, e-mails etc.

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Shouldn't it be possible to set up an automatic shipping notification system? I seem to get automatic shipping notifications from all other vendors I use. If I had simply got an automatically generated email saying "your product has been shipped" then this misunderstanding would never have occurred.

Surely the technology is available.




That isn't really automated, though; Someone still has to send that e-mail, the message is just stock/impersonal aside from the unique tracking number/address. Truly automated messages would be like postal services use, and require scanning the packages. I really don't think any shipping and postage services has programs to automatically e-mail whoever the pack is going to.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: DustBunny] * 1
    #23657541 - 09/19/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I will say, WSS should have made a genetic email that sent out to everyone in their inbox. Massive group email. U can send those to thousands of recipiants right? That could have avoided this whole mini-ordeal here.

Something of the likes of:

"Dear Valued Customer,
  Currently we are experiencing very high volumes of orders from emails and phone calls. Please expect delays from any emails you have sent us, we have a small staff that is currently trying to respond to your emails. Thank you for your patience and business. Sincerly, WSS."


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam :) [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23657545 - 09/19/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the heads up OP.
I was probably going to order kratom from that vendor but now I'm sketched for sure.  I'll just find another one I guess.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor NOT running a possible Kratom exit scam :) [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #23658109 - 09/19/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No need to be sketched they won't scam you, but the shipping and customer service will be slow due to their being overwhelmed with orders.


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