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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: plasma]
#23654241 - 09/17/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea plasma, ralphster was the only vendor I ever used, I stopped growing a few years and come back and find out he became a scammer. Most recently I used sporeworks which I recommend.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654282 - 09/17/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When was the last time you used another vendor? Because I would be surprised if it was in the last 17~ days if you have more then 1 recent order with WSS...
Also, WSS's add was just the banner while I posted that.

They are advertising off your thread
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: musiclover420]
#23654286 - 09/17/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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A day before I ordered from WSS, I ordered a kilo from my usual vendor. They sent tracking same day, kilo arrived 24 hours later. Emails responded to within a few hours.
The difference between that and what I got with WSS is why I was worried. Compared to all other vendors I have dealt with, their lack of responsiveness was alarming.
I am glad It wasn't what it looked like.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: musiclover420]
#23654289 - 09/17/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: You guys are obviously welcome to your opinion. I didn't run any "smear" campaign, I was legitimately concerned when a vendor I had no prior experience with compketely stopped communicating with me for an entire business week as soon as they got my money, with no shipping or tracking info sent.
All other vendors I have dealt with have stayed in communication, answered emails within 24 hours, shipped within 24-48 hours, and provided tracking info in the same window of time.
All I did was share with you guys exactly my experience, and I did so honestly.
I wouldn't deal with this vendor again when all my other vendors are far faster and stay in communication.
You guys are welcome to do whatever you want, but I don't regret sharing my experience and concerns.
You don't have to regret anything I was just saying though as a dude in the business sector I see it differently and the vendor probably doesn't have hard feelings anyway, this is free advertising.
What could've happened is he seen your e-mail and knew he was taking care of it and you'd end up with the product . With everything going on with kratom I'd imagine the business is just trying to offload whatever is left and answering e-mails for orders they know are being fulfilled isn't in the list of top 5 priorities. Could it be better customer service? Maybe, but again, look what is happening with kratom...
In the end it sounds like everyone got what they wanted
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
#23654293 - 09/17/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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why did you order multiple kilos from multiple vendors lol
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: PreparationH]
#23654301 - 09/17/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because I am trying to stock up before the ban.
And yeah, it was a misunderstanding and its all cleared up now. No harm done to anyone.
All I did was post my experiences and concerns.
I don't see any reason for the hostility regarding that as I was just trying to help other shroomery members by sharing exactly what happened to me.

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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] 6
#23654310 - 09/17/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You left out the part where the one vendor you ordered from is in Canada and going about business as usual, whereas the other vendor has the overwhelming amount of orders, problems, and headaches that happens when there is an upcoming ban of a substance.
Can you imagine, you go from one day doing 10 orders a day, to doing over 100 in one day? With no time to prepare? It can be extremely overwhelming, and there is no time to hire more staff or anything of the sort. To be honest, I think WSS handled it quite well. If you followed their thread in the Marketplace sub forum you would never had to make this thread dude.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23654313 - 09/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was the 24 hour vendor Canadian I assume? If so that might explain why they are not as rushed as many others right now.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654315 - 09/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No hostility, fuck the war on drugs.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: sh4d0ws]
#23654344 - 09/17/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never so much as glanced at the marketplace forum. As busy as they were they answered all my emails quickly and easily until the moment they had my money then I couldn't get a word out of them for nine full days . It was a misunderstanding but an understandable one that could have been avoided with more responsive customer service .
Yes my vendor is in Canada . But wss told me they would be shipping to me from within Canada as well.
I would like to point out I said "possible exit exam " and listed the reasons for my concern. Note the word possible , and that even Burke said he understood the basis of my concerns .
If I had had any other positive experiences with WSS I wouldn't have been worried but unfortunately I didn't . This was my first encounter with them, and compared to all my other experiences with vendors including us vendors in the past , it was alarmingly different - the customer service was night and day.
I was worried , I waited as long as I could before become concerned, and I posted my experience . Several people PMd me to sympathize and say it was whack how I was treated. So several posters felt the same way I did about it.
As soon as things were cleared up I posted that. So I have been completely accurate and fair .
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654354 - 09/17/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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move along. nothing to see here.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] 3
#23654554 - 09/18/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was a misunderstanding but an understandable one
Yeah, exactly...kratom is becoming illegal in the states and the volume and frenzy surrounding this is insane. Any sane and reasonable person would understand this.
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I would like to point out I said "possible exit exam " and listed the reasons for my concern.
Oh, ok...all is forgiven...you use the word "possible". 
So if I went around saying you were a possible pedophile and listed my concerns for such an accusation, it makes it okay...even after it's proven I was being obtuse and ignorant?
(I know you aren't, but it's just an example to convey my point)
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I was worried , I waited as long as I could before become concerned
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I have never so much as glanced at the marketplace forum.
Your lack of foresight to browse the marketplace isn't their problem.
You got your panties in a twist over 4 business days.
And you will never fool me. You knew the pub thread would get their attention and they'd come in to defend themselves. And it got the result you want...an email. And they already explained more than once that the time they spent dealing with your ignorant and hot headed antics, caused a dozen other emails and orders to get buried in this kratom frenzy. 
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As soon as things were cleared up I posted that.
And you did it still feeling justified in smearing their name to get it cleared up, on a timeline that works for you.
I say again, shame on you. I thought you were a man of character that took the high road.
I said it before and I'll say it again. You have no justifiable reason for your actions. IMO, You were NOT looking out for other people by creating this thread.
The bottom line is that 4 business days went by and they weren't responding to your stage 5 clinger correspondence in the midst of the kratom frenzy in the states. And that got your "armageddon" side of your brain in a defensive panic. One that felt the gloves were off and it was time to go on the offensive. One where you felt that any damage potentially caused by this thread would be worth it if you got a reply.
And you did.
And now you feel you've "won" and all is well and you can just take it all back, while still managing to condemn their customer service.
That's what I see at least. Maybe I'm alone on that 
Either way, it seems you got your end result so me chastising your piss poor behaviour really doesn't solve anything. It just drags this out with no productive end. So I've said my piece and will leave it at that.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked]
#23654577 - 09/18/16 12:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked, its nice that you thought I was a person of character. To be honest, I don't know or recognize you at all.
You can be as mad at me as you like. The simple fact is, I paid them then didn't hear a word from them for nine full days, a full business week.
I have never experienced anything like that with any other company, corporation, business or vendor I have ever worked with.
I got worried, I made several attempts to contact them and heard nothing.
To me, the amount of time it took to get a response was unreasonable.
I posted my honest thoughts and feelings.
Hate on me all you want. I did what seemed right to me, and updated the thread as soon as I heard otherwise.
I can't say your opinion of me matters to me, in all honesty.
If I did wrong here, it was not with any malicious intent.
I honestly thought I got ripped off. I honestly thought others might too. I honestly wanted to warn people that as far as I could tell, my money had been taken, my product had not been shipped, and I was being ignored.
This happened because I have never had any other vendor or business ignore my emails for a full business week, or any vendor fail to send a simple shipping notification letting me know my product was in fact on the way.
I am glad I was wrong. I doubt any harm was done to anyone by this thread. If people read this thread and decided not to use this vendor, it was probably because they too found a nine day wait for a shipping notification or an email response was unacceptable.
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Edited by Moonshoe (09/18/16 12:34 AM)
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: hex_enduction]
#23654584 - 09/18/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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hex_enduction said:
you really think now is the time for a kratom vendor to be hiring additional staff?
If this is when they are so backed up and overwhelmed with orders, then obviously yes.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654586 - 09/18/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thinking about still getting some. Do y'all think it's too late in the game to still order?
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
#23654601 - 09/18/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: Yup. Haha, some poor soul is married to that guy. Can you imagine what that's like? 
Burke, I shouldn't really dignify this pathetic post with a response, and its off-topic here, but my wife and I literally have the happiest and healthiest marriage of any couple we have ever seen.
Several of our friends have told me that our relationship showed them what love could be, and that they had never seen true love like we have.
We have been together ten years and we are deeply in love with each other.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654611 - 09/18/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you miss the part where I said that you have ZERO justification for your pissy pants behaviour? Or do you need me to repeat it again?
I've been around here a long time and only in the past year have really noticed you. You seemed like a pretty stand up individual to me.
Whether you care or not is irregardless...shame on you.
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his happened because I have never had any other vendor or business ignore my emails for a full business week
So it was 4 business days when you originally created this smear thread, but now you are bumping it up to 5...why? When you created this thread, that 5th day didn't exist yet. So why feel the need to include it in a defense for the original post in question? 
Shit happens moonshoe. And among all the well known kratom frenzy AND the continually updated thread in the marketplace, 5 business days is peanuts.
I say again:
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Masked said: The bottom line is that 4 business days went by and they weren't responding to your stage 5 clinger correspondence in the midst of the kratom frenzy in the states. And that got your "armageddon" side of your brain in a defensive panic. One that felt the gloves were off and it was time to go on the offensive. One where you felt that any damage potentially caused by this thread would be worth it if you got a reply.
The only thing unacceptable in this whole equation is your lack of patience, your understanding and quite frankly, your tact.
Shame.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654613 - 09/18/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shouldn't it be possible to set up an automatic shipping notification system? I seem to get automatic shipping notifications from all other vendors I use. If I had simply got an automatically generated email saying "your product has been shipped" then this misunderstanding would never have occurred.
Surely the technology is available.
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Masked]
#23654618 - 09/18/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In total, I waited nine days, two weekend days and seven business days, before I got any kind of shipping notification or response.
I get it dude, you don't like that I made this thread. I understand that.
But I did make this thread, and I thought it was the right thing to do when I did it, so what are you going to do?
I apologize to anyone who feels wronged by my posts for any reason.
Everything I said was sincere. I wasn't trying to slander a legitimate business, I was just saying I hadn't heard a damn thing and I was worried.
Wrongly as it turned out, and now that has been established.
I thought the marketplace was just where sheekle sold his tye dye shirts and people traded cactuses.
I didn't know it had anything to do with vendors.
The simple fact is, I really thought I had been scammed.
Maybe that was crazy of me. I have been known to be crazy.
I do my best
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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
#23654623 - 09/18/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So now we need an automatic shipping notification in place, just so we don't have to hold you responsible for your unneccesary and tactless emotionally driven outbursts?
I don't hold them responsible for this "misunderstanding". Not when it's clear whats happening in kratom land and not when there was a perfectly updated thread from said vendor in marketplace.
I hold you and your unneccessary actions(this thread) responsible.
ehh, whatever, i'm just dragging nothing on for the sake of arguing at this point.
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The simple fact is, I really thought I had been scammed.
Ok, well i think you jumped the gun WAY to early and took the gloves off and went on the offensive, way to early. I just saw it as tactless.
I'll leave it be. You did what you felt you needed to do and got the result you wanted. I don't agree with it, but meh.
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