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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx]
    #23647481 - 09/15/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Be smart buying kratom at this point. Ive heard of alot of OG legit vendors running scams right now because they have no incentive otherwise.






wait, you mean running a legitimate, honest, and professional business which has high customer satisfaction isn't an incentive?


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: demiu5]
    #23647483 - 09/15/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
    #23647485 - 09/15/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hex_enduction said:
Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.






bullshit


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647574 - 09/15/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I recieved one package today. 

The other sent a message saying they were in DC for the rally and are going to start shipping tmrw.  Relax.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: demiu5]
    #23647633 - 09/15/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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demiu5 said:
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hex_enduction said:
Now that their business is going to be shut down no matter what in a few weeks, those incentives don't hold much weight these days.






bullshit




Used to be an incentive. Now their business is gone. If you are making a morality argument, you're right. Money talks though and I have no doubt some of the bigger players wouldn't mind a little extra for retirement if it meant burning people.

It also makes a perfect time to say 'just relax, things are just backed up. Until you relax yourself into the plant being illegal and the vendor never speaking to you again.

Just saying, buyer beware. Id be pissed if a vendor didnt have the common courtesy to send a 15 second email saying 'backed up, its coming!' Although if you are talking about world seed supply maybe they have enough incentive to stay in the game because they sell other products unlike some of the kratom only websites.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: danielx] * 2
    #23647647 - 09/15/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

But if these vendors have a lot of product, why would they scam? They'd want it gone & they're targets.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23647659 - 09/15/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS replied in his marketplace thread. As I said Moon I really odn't think he's trying to scam you. I can imagine hundreds of emails takes a while to answer

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World Seed Supply said:
I appreciate all of those who are backing us up. We've been a sponsor for over 7 years here. Most of the orders have all one out next day despite the insane volume. We just spent 2 days in DC to attend the march on behalf of this effort. It def does not help our workload, but we needed to be there.

We have hundreds of emails. We're not answering the phone now in an effort to keep up. Doesn;t mean you're getting scammed. Most of the tiem the order is already shipped, and you just didnt get the tracking. When you send us an angry message because you cannot be patient, it makes me want to cancel your order. We're working far too hard and offering way too good of a deal to listen to complaints. This is not a normal situation, so be reasonable. We have many times the normal workload. I have no problem with polite inquiries. But leave some time before you email because it slows down the process to reply. If you accuse us of scamming, then you're being unreasonable because far too many people have reported here that they are happy, and many many people have reordered.




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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647693 - 09/15/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS sells way more than just kratom. They wouldn't exit scam because 90% of their business is totally legitimate and legal. I bet kratom isn't even the majority of their profit. Also, they've been nothing but extremely kind and helpful in all the interactions I've had with them.

I'm sure they're just busy. 4 days isn't a lot of time.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: nooneman] * 5
    #23647712 - 09/15/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS should exit scam moonshoe for making this thread.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23647759 - 09/15/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly even if they aren't running a scam, not taking 30 seconds to reply to a paying customers emails for four entire business days is completely unacceptable , especially because they had absolutely no problem replying to all my emails within a few minutes until EXACTLY the second they deposited my money .

It was literally instant replies, take my money, and then not another word for four business days .

At that point fuck them scammers or not. All they had to do was reply to my email and I would have been put at ease . I gave them plenty of time to explain themselves .

If they need to hire someone to help them with emails or whatever fine that's not my problem.

If you take more than a hundred dollars of my money, you owe me a certain level of customer service .

if you are too busy to reply to my emails don't take my money.

And when you reply to me until the instant you have my cash and then abruptly ignore me for basically an entire work week, fuck you, scammer or not.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647819 - 09/15/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tbh I think it was oversight.  As soon as I saw this thread I shot an email and he immediately responded.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647827 - 09/15/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Look at it this way- say I text my weed dealer and he says he will sell me a half ounce of weed for 100 dollars. We text back and forth and make a deal and he is replying to every text within a few minutes of me sending it. We finalize the deal and I e transfer him the agreed hundred dollars.

And then I hear nothing. I wait a few days and text him to ask when he can drop off.

No answer.

I was a day and text again. I say I am starting to worry.

No answer. I wait another day and say I'm starting to feel like he might be ripping me off.

No answer .

Four entire business days go by, a total Of a week has passed since I paid him and not only has he not delivered the weed, he hasn't even taken ten seconds to reply to my Text.

Obviously anyone in this situation would feel concerned they were being ripped off.

After all if they weren't planning to scam me, why wouldn't they simply text and say "sorry running a bit behind "

Anyone should realize that when you answer someone's emails right up to the second you get their money and then ignore them for an entire business week, you are sending a strong message of disrespect at best, dishonesty at worst .

Any time anyone is talking to you until they get your money then suddenly can't be reached and hasn't given you what you paid for, they absolutely have a responsibility to at least stay in communication with you.

And yeah maybe your busy for one or two days max. But as a
Corporation or business , failing to send a 30 second email
To a Paying customer in four entire business days isn't even close
To acceptable .

I trusted them and gave them tons of chances to simply email
Me and explain themselves . By not doing so they forced me to fear a scam and that gave me a responsibility to warn others .

Even If I knew they weren't scamming me, which I don't , I would still warn people not to deal with them.

If I had gone with my usual vendor I would have recieved my Kratom three days ago.

But that's not the problem, the problem is someone simply can't have my money and then be unresponsive and unreachable.

Anyone would feel the same way. If I pay anyone for anything and then they stop taking my calls as
Soon as they have my money, anyone is going to feel like they are being  fucked over .

If your running behind on shipping that is no excuse for completely ignoring someone's email when you are holding their money and they are empty handed, not for one, two or three business days but four business days and counting.

I even explained how worried I was and that I was starting to fear a scam and gave them multiple chances
Simply to acknowledge my emails in any way.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647848 - 09/15/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

At first I'd probably feel like that, as soon as they released an announcement that pertains to the exact problem im having with them id just get over it and be happy i didnt get scammed instead of taking it up a notch.

You act like theyre plotting against you, chances are they have a large customer base and they dont even know or remember you or think about you, you're just a nobody with money to them, thats what business is. Yeah its annoying not getting a response for that long but now you got one, so i wouldnt take it personally that it wasnt directed to you specifically because their response makes it sound like its more then just you it happened to

Shit happens when youre that busy and you get stressed as fuck, they probably didnt intend to ignore you, unless you were insulting to them which they covered in their response


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 3
    #23647860 - 09/15/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If it'll get you to stop posting the same thing over & over, post your email address and I will email you on their behalf.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23647896 - 09/15/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WSS is legit. They have simply been slamed with orders given the upcoming legal status of Kratom. You and everybody else who likes Kratom is buying from them. I suspect they are a one or two man team who are not used to this high volume of orders. I had minimal responses after my second order but all arrived as ordered and I will order through them again.

OP have some patience and faith. These guys have a well established business and would gain nothing from ripping you off of a measly $100. They have been an upstanding sponsor of this site for 7 years.

Not to mention they flew out to go help protest the ban for two days during all of this.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #23647901 - 09/15/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I kinda thought BK was running an exit scam, just because in my head it made sense logically that they would, but they didn't.  Just got my order today that I placed around the 1st.  Used to take a couple days from payment to delivery.

It must suck to work there now.  I bet they wear respirators or at least dustmasks dealing with all that powder.  Shit's so fine, and I can tell there is a fine krat coating on the bags even tho they are sealed and unopened.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23647942 - 09/15/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Love_spirit said:
WSS arnt the type of people that would screw anyone over and yeah I'm a really cynical fuck.

Fun fact: "cynical" comes from an ancient word for dog which referred to the canine behavior of always sniffing their food before eating it.




Agreed. Being that they don't exclusively do kratom and they are encouraging users to look into some of their other products like akuamma seeds, they DO have incentive to keep honest business. Moonshoe, they are completely fucking swamped right now and quickly running out of certain supplies. If there was a mistake and they took payment for a supply they no longer have keep whatever receipts emails and bank charges you have, I'm almost certain they would at least refund you after the kratom krazy is over.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23647944 - 09/15/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I just got my order from them today too, also placed on 9.01.  They wouldn't exit scam, they're real solid.  And I believe I read that they're just taking the business to the EU. 

To be fair though, I do understand the foundation of moonshoe's concerns.  I've been watching for exit scams in the krat community since the ban was announced.  None of the reliable vendors are going that route, not yet at least.  We'll see come 9.30.  I have heard rumors of shady dealings from some people about the more "fly by night" sellers, but all the ones I would ever buy from have been making good.  Including WSS/kratom collection.


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23647950 - 09/15/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Clam down m8

Tis ok :peace:


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Re: Shroomery sponsor running a possible Kratom exit scam [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #23648034 - 09/15/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I vouch for WSS.  They were amazing to deal with and far too trustworthy for you to ever consider "scam"....regardless of your measly 4 days you've been in the dark.


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