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People who 'troll' on forums
#23646533 - 09/15/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Having spread my wings and started to explore the dark corners of the Shroomery fully, I have come face to face on a few occassions, with the 'troll' mentality. Wiki defines it as:
"a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement."
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For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone would get 'enjoyment' over psychologically harassing people via the internet, especially in a place like this.
Is this just the 'bully' mentality taken to the modern era? Is there something more to it? My guess would be that anyone who tries to upset others is simply upset themselves, but perhaps you guys could shed some further insight?
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Lot of different reasons for trolling.
Sometimes it's malicious and sheer bullying.
Other times it's a gentle teasing of someone who's way too far up their own arse.
There is a very dangerous sort of person who can't tell the difference.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor] 1
#23646543 - 09/15/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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We didn't call them trolls back in my day, we just called them assholes, and the worlds full of them.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: There is a very dangerous sort of person who can't tell the difference.
Can you elucidate please viktor?
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I've 10 years of bartending experience, and seen a lot of fights start when someone made a joke that was taken as an insult when it didn't have to be.
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I recently saw this documentary about people who had been targeted by trolls. It was shocking! These people will do anything to try and hurt people. One threatened this persons kids with rape, and posted horrfic picture he'd photoshopped the head of his victims over this porno scene fkin kids, and saying he was a pedophile.
This mum who had lost her little boyin one of the most terrible cases in UK where he was tortured to death by two young boys is also suffering trolling!! It beggars belief.
Anyhow two of them hired this hackers to find out where these people lived and tracked them down. One didn't have the guts to face his victim but they got him on the phone, and he just said he was having a bad day when he did it. Sounded very middle class
This other sht was shabby looking character in a shabby teashirt who when approached tried to hide his face and told THEM to stop harrassing HIM and then ran into his house
Why do these, and bullies in general do it? It is sadism. They feel power by thinking they control others by hurting them. Like you say deep down this is because they are not happy with their life and themselves, feeling powerless, and so this way they think they get control
How to deal with them? Well you can try and play with their shit, but best way is to not feed em. Ignoring them will kill them
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: zzripz]
#23646581 - 09/15/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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zzripz said: Ignoring them will kill them
This seems the most effective way to deal (and I say that from personal experience).
Still, I cannot understand why some people go to the lengths they do to 'troll'. Perhaps it's become a more popular sport because a smack in the mouth is an impossible outcome, as it would've been 30 years ago?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
#23646584 - 09/15/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: I've 10 years of bartending experience, and seen a lot of fights start when someone made a joke that was taken as an insult when it didn't have to be.
Maybe it's those 'making the joke' rather than the 'dangerous sort of person who can't tell the difference' who are to blame here though?
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No-one deserves a punch in the head for making a joke. People have to be pathetically insecure losers to get wound up by other people's words.
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If you can tell that someone is trolling its a bad troll. A good troll will never give any hint that hes trolling. Originally trolling was kind of like a harmless prank where you make someone upset. However nowadays its just about causing as much destruction as possible. Its yet another imageboard culture that was perverted when introduced to the wider public. This is similar to what happend to memes when 9fag started copying them.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
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Shh. They aren't ready to get memed on. Only dreams now.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Originally trolling was kind of like a harmless prank where you make someone upset.
Sorry man, but that statement sounds so contradictory. How is making someone upset ever 'harmless'?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
#23646718 - 09/15/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: No-one deserves a punch in the head for making a joke. People have to be pathetically insecure losers to get wound up by other people's words.
So that would make 99.9% of the people on the planet 'pathetically insecure losers'? Sounds about right, I'm definitely in that 99.9% at times, when the words hit the right spot.
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Well its a waste of your time and energy but you dont suffer any long lasting damage from it
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Probably 75% of people get wound up by words, 80% at the most.
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For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone would get 'enjoyment' over psychologically harassing people via the internet, especially in a place like this.
I think negative attention is fulfilling for trolls.
Like how many people are hooked on drama, trolls love drama.
It helps them feels powerful.
(just like how kids often enjoy throwing rocks off a freeway overpass.)
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23654806 - 09/18/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's just shit you don't grow out of. If you were one of those kids before (like I was) it just stays a part of you. The freedom addiction.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: yeah] 2
#23654819 - 09/18/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm with you Jokeshopbeard.
Words have the same power to divide and hurt us as they do unite and heal.
And online there's no wry smile to go with a joke that might otherwise be sore. There no open body language that contradicts the apparent meaning of a jibe poking fun.
In my opinion people who use thier words to divide and injure are uncomfortable connecting with people in more meaningful ways. Ultimately everyone wants importance and love, even the broken people who can't ask for it.
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Is there something more to it? My guess would be that anyone who tries to upset others is simply upset themselves, but perhaps you guys could shed some further insight?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Buster_Brown]
#23654865 - 09/18/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have always thought theyre bored people who must have either nothing going on in their lives to keep occupied, or maybe some kind of psychological issue be it depression or something.
I see no joy to be gained from trolling lol. Some sad folks abt 
Is bad now though as younger ones can be really upset by it. Internet bullying and such.
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So surely you 'give your mates shit' or stir them up sometimes? You are still coming down under right? We are famous for giving our mates shit so that's a kind of trolling, right? Are you trying to define the lines between stirring/teasing/bullying/harassing and maybe you could put trolling in there too? There are a lot of things to consider before you put a label on it. Sometimes trolling can = bullying but it would depend on a lot of things.... anyway good thread.
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Yeah, he's been relegated to the colonies where he belongs.
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NobodyYouKnow said: So surely you 'give your mates shit' or stir them up sometimes? You are still coming down under right? We are famous for giving our mates shit so that's a kind of trolling, right? Are you trying to define the lines between stirring/teasing/bullying/harassing and maybe you could put trolling in there too? There are a lot of things to consider before you put a label on it. Sometimes trolling can = bullying but it would depend on a lot of things.... anyway good thread. 
I'm not sure if JSB really gets our style of humour. He's left me multiple nasty ratings on here because he interprets much of what I say in the most negative possible light.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone would get 'enjoyment' over psychologically harassing people via the internet, especially in a place like this.
I think negative attention is fulfilling for trolls.
Like how many people are hooked on drama, trolls love drama.
It helps them feels powerful.
(just like how kids often enjoy throwing rocks off a freeway overpass.)
This is true.
I have seen people post some serious questions on here before, then you see people in other threads in different forums make fun of that person for asking a serious question, trying to bait the person into that thread to "melt" as they call it.
I will try to joke with people to try and mellow out the situation if I see this happening, you know use humor to defuse a bomb.
I understand we all have bad days, and sometimes we might lash out without thinking, especially on a site where we can't see the other persons reaction, but I don't understand why it matters so much to be correct about internet drama which holds no weight in the real world.
One thing I learned in the past with heroin addiction, is misery loves company. Every time I tried to get clean and told my friends I was trying to do so, they would try harder and harder to get me to use with them. So this logic applies to trolls, they see someone doing well, and are miserable with their own lives, so they try to drag others down to be miserable with them.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Lucis] 2
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The other crabs in the bucket trying to stop you from escaping ^
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viktor said: No-one deserves a punch in the head for making a joke. People have to be pathetically insecure losers to get wound up by other people's words.
So that would make 99.9% of the people on the planet 'pathetically insecure losers'? Sounds about right, I'm definitely in that 99.9% at times, when the words hit the right spot.
if it's 99.9% then yes just like it's pathetic to punish someone for using a harmless drug or being a certain color it's equally pathetic to punish someone for using harmless words just because of personal interpretation
we're responsible for ourselves first and foremost the need to be responsible for others words is a project based in projection IMO
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Spellbound]
#23655352 - 09/18/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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most internet bullies end up pushing the wrong kid a little too far
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Trolling is the art of deception and it's defiantly nothing new. Just because a snake sheds its skin does not mean it's not a snake. It always has and most likely always will be a valuable survival mechanism.
A Crocodile can sit for hours in one position camouflaged amongst the water just waiting for the unknowing mammal to come along then snap.
With humans its all about intelligence so when x amount of individuals take the bait and the other ones know whats going on... 
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/gullible
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Kickle] 1
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viktor said: No-one deserves a punch in the head for making a joke. People have to be pathetically insecure losers to get wound up by other people's words.
So that would make 99.9% of the people on the planet 'pathetically insecure losers'? Sounds about right, I'm definitely in that 99.9% at times, when the words hit the right spot.
if it's 99.9% then yes just like it's pathetic to punish someone for using a harmless drug or being a certain color it's equally pathetic to punish someone for using harmless words just because of personal interpretation
we're responsible for ourselves first and foremost the need to be responsible for others words is a project based in projection IMO
Crazy and very interesting. So what do you think about 'selfishness' ? Without trying to dress it up that's what you are getting at right?
I think its worth considering that for the most part we have been conditioned against selfishness (at least I have)but putting your own sanity and happiness as the no.1 priority seems healthy. Religion is for the peasants lol.
And I disagree with you Victor it's totally worth punching someone in the head over a joke made at your expense , especially when they are trying to use you to boost their social status. This is what i would call returning the favor lol. Although it very well could backfire or possibly lead to mating with more females.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Withinity]
#23656802 - 09/18/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To the OP check out this Scishow vid on youtube. They do Imo an excellent job of explaining trolling.
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Sounds like You're taking the internet and yourself a bit too seriously friend.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Lucis] 2
#23657465 - 09/19/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
misery loves company.
Amen! Which is why some people thrive on negative attention.
The anonymity of the internet frees people from a (perceived) obligation to act according to social norms.
The anonymity of the internet has huge repercussions on behavior.
For example, people who wouldn't usually steal (in person), sometimes rip stuff off online (music)
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23657507 - 09/19/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very true, that's why I have given up most web forums for FaceBook (apart from the truly quality ones like teh Shroomery).
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There's virtually zero trolling on Facebook because people are not anonymous.
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Yes, that was precisely my point
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
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Facebook is a propaganda tool and marketing machine. Facebook is the ultimate troll in the world. People even get banned for expressing non popular opinions that don't match the memes and 'liberal' POV.
What a beautiful world where people are forced to share beliefs with a gun to the back of their heads.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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There's a certain kind of person who thrives on candor.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Having spread my wings and started to explore the dark corners of the Shroomery fully, I have come face to face on a few occassions, with the 'troll' mentality. Wiki defines it as:
"a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement."
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For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone would get 'enjoyment' over psychologically harassing people via the internet, especially in a place like this.
Is this just the 'bully' mentality taken to the modern era? Is there something more to it? My guess would be that anyone who tries to upset others is simply upset themselves, but perhaps you guys could shed some further insight?
Wiki is not reliable on the most important and controversial things.
I would consider that definition a cover for the actual purpose of a troll.
The word was invented, I'm sure, within Rand think tank experiments conducted between military bases with the predecessor to the usenet, and private think tank units that were directed by psychologists and others who were monitoring the exchanges.
The idea was to create an entity that could say anything and always be explained away.
This entity was needed to foul or disrupt discourse that effectively opposed specific agendas. The idea was that the entity could color the perceptions of the reader so the reader would favor one position or another.
"Troll" had the appropriate connotations and created an entity that could conduct or support treason while simply appearing to be a social misfit angry at the world. This enabled them to return to continue the support for treason. It somewhat preserved their status in the minds of some viewers.
I've seen them used with far too much continuity to accept any lessor definition of them. However, there will always be an individual who thinks its cool and will emulate the behavior because they are not functionally capable of anything else.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Withinity]
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Facebook is the ultimate troll in the world.
You'll never see people troll on FB like on boards where people are anonymous.
(Nobody on FB gets banned for expressing unpopular opinions. Who told you that crap?)
I thought FB was a curse to humanity and Satan in disguise until I saw for myself.
You will NEVER see people on FB act like dumb shit idiots like some do on boards.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: I thought FB was a curse to humanity and Satan in disguise until I saw for myself.
That's kinda how it feels to me. What changed it for you?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Facebook is the ultimate troll in the world.
You'll never see people troll on FB like on boards where people are anonymous.
(Nobody on FB gets banned for expressing unpopular opinions. Who told you that crap?)
I thought FB was a curse to humanity and Satan in disguise until I saw for myself.
You will NEVER see people on FB act like dumb shit idiots like some do on boards.
I wouldn't normally troll my friends
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23665766 - 09/21/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Facebook is the ultimate troll in the world.
You'll never see people troll on FB like on boards where people are anonymous.
(Nobody on FB gets banned for expressing unpopular opinions. Who told you that crap?)
I thought FB was a curse to humanity and Satan in disguise until I saw for myself.
You will NEVER see people on FB act like dumb shit idiots like some do on boards.
I didn't say people trolling on Facebook. Facebook itself is a troll , the people who maintain , moderate invest in it. Social Media is making people Anti Social.
And I disagree, Facebook is full of dumbshits and unlike people trolling anonymously they are way more dangerous too humanity because its a universally accepted and visited platform now. Meaning the dumbshits gathered an army.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Withinity]
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Withinity said: Social Media is making people Anti Social.
This is one of my main concerns. Looking forward to what RJ has to say regarding its (possible) merit mind you.
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After all the creepy stuff I've heard about Zuckerborg nad FB, I'll never use facebook again unless it's with a dummy account to locate local gatherings.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen] 1
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I've never been on Facebook, I don't even know what the screen looks like. I feel sane and sound.
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Withinity said: Social Media is making people Anti Social.
This is one of my main concerns. Looking forward to what RJ has to say regarding its (possible) merit mind you.
My friend this is just the beginning. Keep in mind Facebook recently like a year or two ago bought out Occulus Rift which was the leader developer of Virtual Technology for 3billion dollars.
Look at what this clever fool is talking about for our future.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Withinity]
#23668528 - 09/22/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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And by the way Facebook is awesome if you use it from the other side, i.e own a business or something like this , you can literally pay them to source out customers/fans for people who have the same interests as what you are trying to sell, kind of similar to how you can pay google to bring your website higher up on the searches.
Arghhhhh... and the kids they think they are going to put an end to capitalism through social media, they really have absolutely no fucking idea whats going on because the majority are using the new age set of tools as consumers.
I really am starting to feel old.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Withinity]
#23669706 - 09/22/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been trolling Ken M style on a reddit sub that is so full of ridiculous negativity. I post stuff that sounds stupid, and negative creeps jump my shit like nobody's business. Then I post the punchlines later. I get off on the humor of my own jokes. And maybe it brings to people's attention that everything they perceive online isn't necessarily exactly the way they first interpreted it. Ken M is the master of the art of trolling.
I often want to troll people on Facebook. Because that's when people really expose their whacked out beliefs on religion and politics and conspiracy theories. But I don't because it's not anonymous. But when people post stupid shit like anti-vaxx stuff, I just want to drop some science on them and watch them and their little friends wig out.
I want to troll people irl too. I mean, I get impulses to inject my commentary into all sorts of situations where it's not appreciated. I get all sorts of impulses and thoughts though. I think you'd call that ADHD. I often think about other things when people are speaking directly to me. I wish people could be sped up. If people spoke in 2x speed it would be a lot more interesting to listen to.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hippocampus] 1
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Trolls generally are people who are A) Bored B) Have a sense of entitlement and arrogance C) Have low self esteem
From my own observations.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: I thought FB was a curse to humanity and Satan in disguise until I saw for myself.
That's kinda how it feels to me. What changed it for you?
I still kind of think it's an Evil Force.
But like most things, it's not black and white, and I see some good in it. Not much, but some.
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Withinity said: Social Media is making people Anti Social.
This is one of my main concerns. Looking forward to what RJ has to say regarding its (possible) merit mind you.
If there is any merit in FB, it's the same merit we find here at The Shroomery.
You can connect with people. Yes, if you use it a lot, it can make you feel disconnected.
It depends on how you use it and if you let it control your life.
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Happy people do not communicate strife to other people. There are a lot of profoundly unhappy people on the planet for very good reasons in the 'developing nations': incomprehensible poverty, no basic survival needs being met (clean water, or water at all, no shelter or food), brutally oppressive political regimes, epidemic disease, etc. Then there are those in the 'developed nations' to which I don't hesitate to assume that Every Shroomerite belongs. Those who are sufficiently unhappy that they want to visit their unhappiness on others are suffering from some form of psychopathology.
For example, the racists and bigots here suffer, and suffer the rest of us to experience their paranoid ideation. Paranoia is Janus-faced - inflationary and persecutory. Some have more of one than another. The former aspect makes the paranoiac believe that he is superior, and in fact, he feels he is is SO special that 'they' are out to get him. We only hate what we fear. This can occur in individual schizophrenia, paranoid type, but there is a psychic contagion that can include one other, Folie à deux, or three people -folie à deux, or four - folie à quatre, a family - folie en famille, or a cult (like white supremacist movements) or even a whole nation (like Nazi Germany) - folie à plusieurs ("madness of many").
Sometimes mental illness has quantifiable biochemical causes, as in drug-induced psychoses. There has never been a biochemical discovered as the causative basis of mental illness - correlates yes, causative no. But, whole nations can go mad and the madness is rooted in social and psychological aspects of the individual. How did every Nazi party member drop their Christian values so readily and adopt Nazi ideology which was absolutely psychopathic in its cold sadistic callousness, absence of empathy, conscience, and remorse? Psychopathy/sociopathy operates on lesser levels. Check out the book The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. https://archive.org/details/TheSociopathNextDoor She describes the trolls you refer to along with those who steal or sabotage co-worker's work, people who routinely steal their neighbor's newspapers, deliveries, etc. or poison their neighbor's dog. At some point, Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Paranoid Personality Disorder, Sadistic Personality Disorder, and probably others, all line up with the same behaviors at the lower end of the psychopathy spectrum, and this accounts for the much of the malevolent sick comments and trolling right on these forums.
People with a poorly developed moral compass can jump on a bandwagon of obnoxiousness or increasing malevolence.Scroll down to "Scale and Criminals" and look at Michael Stone's categories of psychopathy at the higher end of the continuum which are not merely malicious, but malevolent and criminal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Evil
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>and this accounts for the much of the malevolent sick comments and trolling right on these forums.
Boo hoo. That sick feeling you experience is generated by YOU.
People who get easily offended/trolled are the sickest of them all.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23674936 - 09/24/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trolling is satire and satire can be constructive AND fun!
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen] 2
#23675123 - 09/24/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is the ego that gets offended. Thus, as we can observe, the posters that get the most offended here are also the most egotistical.
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MarkostheGnostic said: Happy people do not communicate strife to other people.
This is a 'nail on the head' statement coming from you MtG. I've suspected it to be this way for a while...
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As the saying goes, "Misery loves company"
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor] 1
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It is the ego that gets offended. Thus, as we can observe, the posters that get the most offended here are also the most egotistical.
oversimplification. it's good to have passion. sometimes passion can be mistaken for offence. to be offended, you need more than mere exasperation or annoyance, you need literal upset, unhappiness, and anger.
thus passion can be concluded to be egotistical; though is the being egocentric always being "egotistical", to the extent to where one's ego is blustering so that it tends to have a truly negative effect, as opposed to just an effect of getting passionately involved in something, with no real affect of offence. that is to say, that egotism shouldn't necessarily be equated to an unhealthy narcissism. ie, how annoyed one is is, mayhaps, a good determination. subtle annoyance over things that are clearly annoying is a pretty natural reaction, and a healthy one. i'd suspect there is a evolutionary concern with becoming frustrated, or flustered, by certain people and certain things.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: As the saying goes, "Misery loves company"
assuming misery isn't a necessary counter-part to having positive emotions at all. there is a thing called melancholy you know.
you know, this is the problem with not inventing any new epigrammatic sayings, the old ones slowly become useless platitudes, in contemporary understanding.
as it goes, it ain't no secret for the New Romantics, we express ourselves in an unaffected way.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23675511 - 09/24/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It could be stated, "Negativity loves company"
I notice, for example at work, when employees are pissed off, they want to get others angry also.
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#23675514 - 09/24/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Calvin once said "Nothing helps a bad mood like spreading it around"
Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes, not that fuck who started a religion.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23675537 - 09/24/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, i would say that is a better approximation. now that i makes me think. negativity loves a mirror neuron reaction, it seems; self-validation?
anyways, i should say also, that a better word than offended, would be hurt; in terms of a addressing the ego, that is, the ego with it's defences presuming on an inexplicably derisive, scornful, or dainty level.
i would just note that no one is above the fray when it comes to the natural reaction of the ego trying to finds it's place, in terms of ones own identity, even though it causes problems, presumably, the fact is, it's a necessary tool to function in society with other human beings.
things need to make sense, or else they don't make sense. this is how the ego operates. once that's known, it's easier to comprehend and work with the actions people take -- but you gotta ask yourself, is it worth it getting involved. alot of the time, one might find, it is not.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23675585 - 09/24/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, the ego seeks validation.
Tell an angry coworker their grievance is trivial, and they'll find a more compatible ear to gripe to.
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yes, yes, yes, the ego seeks validation. obviously. that's what humans do. seek validation. without that, we're lumps of meat.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
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So if I abandon the urge to seek validation, I'm not human?
I'm just a lump of meat?
I hope I'm prime rib.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23675611 - 09/25/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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define human. is the innate animal? or is it the psyche within the animal, or it's thoughts?
either way...you won't abandon the urge to seek validation, seeing as though you'll always have your own validation to work towards.
or did you forget that you were alive? meh. either way. prime rib it is, i guess.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23675651 - 09/25/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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either way...you won't abandon the urge to seek validation...
That's your ego talking
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23675662 - 09/25/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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and my ego (and your's) is what is leaving me (and you and I ourselves together as our own personages) able to identify as one naturally is.
there's nothing wrong with the ego. what you have a problem with is it's identity to the man, instead of in accordance to a higher purpose.
the higher purpose, however, is the man.
the man isn't without his own divinity, also.
let go. letting go, in perpetuity, is realizing there is nothing out of place...including the ego.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23675673 - 09/25/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't claim ego is "bad" or to be destroyed.
But so many delusions are based in ego, it's critical to understand it.
Yes, our species would not have survived without our ego.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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i'd wager those so-called 'delusions' are more like paradoxes than anything else.
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#23675702 - 09/25/16 01:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The most common human delusion is when we believe we bear no responsibility for our problems.
We are good at pointing a finger. Nobody wants to look in the mirror.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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>Nobody wants to look in the mirror.
Are you not pointing your finger here?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen] 1
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Hobozen said: >and this accounts for the much of the malevolent sick comments and trolling right on these forums.
Boo hoo. That sick feeling you experience is generated by YOU.
People who get easily offended/trolled are the sickest of them all.
I'M not experiencing a "sick feeling," I'm evaluating sick fucks who are demeaning, dismissive, defaming, and destructive of community. You seem to have have issues with your own feelings, which is why you attempted to lay your own trip on me. "Boo hoo?" Apparently you have had your own feelings hurt sufficiently to feel self-contempt, and then you attempt to project your contempt onto me. I'm not owning any of it! It's your bad trip, not mine. Being sensitive is an asset and an indicator of emotional health, not sickness, and expecting to be regarded with respect is normal. Armoring oneself with a 'tough guy' persona is a defense-mechanism, but lashing out like you've done in addressing me perfectly illustrates the very point I was making. Sorry you feel bad, but don't take it out on me.
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It was a good day yesterday, no sissues with my feelings. I'm giving back what you put out - judgement. You're always judging and talking shit about others, and that's the main reason why I give you so much flack.
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Serves an evolutionary/transformative purpose
It's like any other abuse
Transfer of power
Ultimately they're doing you a favor
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: 100_the_cat]
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A lot of these old fogies went their whole lives with nobody to test their patience and beliefs... we're on an interesting path.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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Hobozen said: A lot of these old fogies went their whole lives with nobody to test their patience and beliefs... we're on an interesting path.
You can tell when some people have spent their entire lives lecturing and talking down to others. They can't handle being challenged.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
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akira_akuma said: yes, yes, yes, the ego seeks validation. obviously. that's what humans do. seek validation. without that, we're lumps of meat.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: So if I abandon the urge to seek validation, I'm not human?
I'm just a lump of meat?
I hope I'm prime rib.
Seems there are might be many undefined assumptions, and conflicting definitions of ‘validation’, ‘being human’, and ‘ego’, before one even gets to how they relate.
Some view ego as self esteem & think it wonderful, others view ego as the filter we attempt to disable with etheogens. If we take the later viewpoint, then self validation is a mechanism by which the ego maintains its limited view & ascendancy over a more expanded ‘reality’.
Linda Blanchard discusses it in her book: “Dependent Arising In Context: the Buddha's core lesson, in the context of his time and ours”
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: laughingdog]
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thank you, laughingdog. exactly.
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If you abandon the urge to seek validation, watch out for that subtle part of the self that seeks validation, which we will always have a blindspot for, I think. These days I try to validate myself consciously, instead of seeing it as something that should be buried.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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one can cosmically seek awareness, for a erm...reduction of the pool of desire for validation -- i think it's a noteworthy achievement. but then don't come back to the world and expect everyone to visit your mountain.
especially if you're only pretending to be on the mountain -- if you're still in the look-out for that mountain, you're not on the mountain. if you're preaching, you're not on the mountain.
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I agree with that, expecting validation because you see yourself high on a mountain will probably not land you too much validation.
When we both see each other as one, we can.validate.each other and it.can be great.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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When we both see each other as one, we can.validate.each other and it.can be great.
I just want the Free Parking. If you'd validate me I'd sure appreciate it, that would be so great, but I do hope you land on my orange properties with at least 3 houses on each.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23688314 - 09/28/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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>but I do hope you land on my orange properties with at least 3 houses on each.
So confused right now.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23688331 - 09/28/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: >but I do hope you land on my orange properties with at least 3 houses on each.
So confused right now.
Monopoly, the most serious game, with no rules because there are no rules other than what is real.
Of course, compared to what?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23688343 - 09/28/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who even remembers monopoly?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen] 1
#23688353 - 09/28/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i still wanna try playing the Landlord Game one day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Landlord%27s_Game
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23688365 - 09/28/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There should be a +2 option for serious plussers.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23688367 - 09/28/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Who even remembers monopoly? 
The ones that it made into a millionaire?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23688371 - 09/28/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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How long did it take you?? I probably still.got a lot of time.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23688389 - 09/28/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: How long did it take you?? I probably still.got a lot of time.
You will never get there, so why ask?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23688409 - 09/28/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have great ideas. Great ideas that that last for days.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23691050 - 09/29/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't read any replies, sorry, just wanted to put in my 2¢.
I know there are people out there who troll because they can tear others down to feel superior. I have a neighbor who is like this in real life. If someone becomes friends with someone they are already friends with, they have this "need" to knock the other down a peg and retain their self imposed high standings with the other by making herself seem like the better, less flawed, choice.
I understand how this probably works well and efficient at garnering favor, but if the effect is incomplete, they are revealed for their backstabbing intentions.
On the internet though, there is no loss because there is no investment outside time.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23691385 - 09/29/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have great ideas. Great ideas that that last for days.
Let's make Amerikka great again.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23691408 - 09/29/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are your thoughts on Trump anyway, Lunar? I'm interested to hear. I love how big media is in a frenzy over him. Can only be a good sign.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23691466 - 09/29/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: What are your thoughts on Trump anyway, Lunar? I'm interested to hear. I love how big media is in a frenzy over him. Can only be a good sign.
I thought when he did The Celebrity Apprentice that he was running for president then. Why would you think NBC is even in favor of him now for the final prize and if they even were that could possibly be a good sign let alone to the exclusion of other "signs"?
edit - perhaps by "frenzy" you mean they are desperately attacking him?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23691490 - 09/29/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think he's all good, him and Adleson are in bed together however it seems. But don't you think there needs to be a shifting of powers for progress to be made? I don't think the powers that be are one party with one intention.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23691502 - 09/29/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: I don't think he's all good, him and Adleson are in bed together however it seems. But don't you think there needs to be a shifting of powers for progress to be made? I don't think the powers that be are one party with one intention.
He's fully in on the scam. Donald Drumpf. Shifting of powers isn't likely to happen soon. This economy is on the precipice and probably will collapse quite soon. Too much debt too much leverage too much funny money doing "pay for play" let's just call it bribery shall we?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23691527 - 09/29/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said: Too much debt too much leverage too much funny money doing "pay for play"
That's true.
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LunarEclipse said: Too much debt too much leverage too much funny money doing "pay for play"
That's true.
When there are no consequences for bad behavior, and the general population is "good" with that, then I see us as being in serious trouble. The Clinton Foundation is rotten to its core, Haiti being just one example, OK selling uranium mining rights in the US to the Russians while Sec of State might be questionable, lol.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23691577 - 09/29/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: I don't think he's all good, him and Adleson are in bed together however it seems. But don't you think there needs to be a shifting of powers for progress to be made? I don't think the powers that be are one party with one intention.
He's fully in on the scam. Donald Drumpf. Shifting of powers isn't likely to happen soon. This economy is on the precipice and probably will collapse quite soon. Too much debt too much leverage too much funny money doing "pay for play" let's just call it bribery shall we?
I don't.doubt you might be right, like I said, Adleson.endorses him. But what I disagree with is the notion that there's one scam. I think the elites play this thing like a game. They have different goals, different agendas in mind.. some better than others. I've.followed blogs.of the mass media and seen them melt down over trump.
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Hobozen said: I don't think he's all good, him and Adleson are in bed together however it seems. But don't you think there needs to be a shifting of powers for progress to be made? I don't think the powers that be are one party with one intention.
He's fully in on the scam. Donald Drumpf. Shifting of powers isn't likely to happen soon. This economy is on the precipice and probably will collapse quite soon. Too much debt too much leverage too much funny money doing "pay for play" let's just call it bribery shall we?
I don't.doubt you might be right, like I said, Adleson.endorses him. But what I disagree with is the notion that there's one scam. I think the elites play this thing like a game. They have different goals, different agendas in mind.. some better than others. I've.followed blogs.of the mass media and seen them melt down over trump.
"They" the elite have every angle covered. It's a game, a perverse game, one that "they" win every day as "they" tell the masses some more fucking bullshit they eat up like it was chocolate.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23691642 - 09/29/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are they waging war on trump then? Ive seen too much evidence of them hating trump to believe you. I don't think they have one intention, they play this like a board.game.against each other,.with differing political ideologies. Some better than others.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23692320 - 09/29/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notoriety still puts $$$ in pockets, maybe more so.
They love him, even if it's just a love both of despise.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: nuentoter]
#23692357 - 09/29/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is osomething I've thought about. Why do they give him so much attention?
But the intense opposition and hatred from the left is undeniable. So there's gotta be more to it.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23692508 - 09/29/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh there is, Trump is the kind of person that sucks all the oxygen from the room and demands attention. He's media's wet dream, a polarized loud mouth that his a raw nerve with the people who are for and against him. He's a money tree in media eyes.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: laughingdog]
#23692690 - 09/29/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Validation usually refers to seeking confirmation our version of reality is "correct".
Validation is the fuel for social, political, and religious mass movements.
This cognitive habit isn't an essential or defining part of being human.
We can abandon our preconceptions, expectations, judgments, and prejudices.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23693430 - 09/30/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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being human involves more than one solo individual. we are social animals. no matter how much one tries to deny it; there'd be no room for meditation for anyone if everyone was alone to abandon our social needs. hence validation is essential for living live on Earth, and being a human.
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No matter how many people surround us, we are still alone.
Even when we have sex, we are alone.
To need validation is to be dependent on others.
If we drop our story, we don't need validation.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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sure, you're defining states of mind, of course you don't need validation, with the exception of the need for validation in order to procreate. you go into a "higher state of mind" if you want...or "no-mind", "emptiness". regardless...if we were all doing that, we'd be doomed.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
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If you have no desire to validate your existence, then what does it matter of the future? I am. So there is nothing else needed to be sure of.
The is no need, simple a desire. Striking a personal balance between the polarities of no validation, and becoming obsessed for approval. That seems like the first part.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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Hobozen said: It was a good day yesterday, no sissues with my feelings. I'm giving back what you put out - judgement. You're always judging and talking shit about others, and that's the main reason why I give you so much flack.
I don't "talk shit" (I'm not straight out of high school). Your "flack" is meaningless, try contributing something intelligent to the forum.
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>try contributing something intelligent to the forum.
Entertaining is so much more fun though.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23696921 - 10/01/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you even have an extensive education like markos? Markos has an extensive education.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: mt cleverest]
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mt cleverest said: Do you even have an extensive education like markos? Markos has an extensive education.
Well, thanks for the support, but there's no need for you to get your virtual hands dirty with this kind of foolishness. If Hobozen wants to act the class clown instead of contributing to intelligent discourse, it's just the same old dynamic from grade school that he's recapitulating here at The Shroomery. This is not an entertainment forum (as if being a classroom cut-up was entertainment), it is Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology. I swear, some people too old for high school behave here like ghosts haunting and annoying the living because they can no longer participate in the joys of life. Class clowns couldn't grok school, so they disrupted it for everyone else.
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My main intention was to call you out on your bullshit. You don't like when people do that, do you? You're foaming at the mouth.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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Hobozen said: My main intention was to call you out on your bullshit. You don't like when people do that, do you? You're foaming at the mouth.
No. No foam, not having a seizure. I'm not being called out on bullshit newbie, because I am not a bullshitter. I only write about something I have some experience with or knowledge about. You are projecting more of your own personality onto someone you don't know anything about. You are not a very critical thinker or you'd research who or what you are objecting to before putting your other virtual foot in your big virtual mouth. In fact, unless you can do a better job of articulating using an adult vocabulary, and some rudimentary manners, you might as well STFU while you still only sound like a high school kid instead of devolving into an even bigger baby before everyone else's eyes.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: psychobla]
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class clowns are just the kids too sharp for the teachers to reign in.
Wrong. Teachers should not have to "reign [sic] in" students" like wild animals. That's the tragedy of public education. For the most part, class clowns were the fucktards and social problems who infected a learning environment whether they were in one of my classes when I was a kid in grade school, or one of the middle school miscreants I experienced during my years as a crisis intervention specialist. I've been around long enough to see what became of a lot of them, but none of them turned out to be renowned geniuses. The one genius I knew when I was in 4th and he in 6th grade in my elementary school became a Nobel Prize recipient, and recently died: Roger Y. Tsien. He was a quiet and well-mannered kid, not any kind of asshole.
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>No. No foam
Definitely foam.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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Definitely foam.
Hit the road hobo, you're no Dharma bum.
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I've obviously struck a nerve with you... or some deep repressed insecurity you aren't willing to acknowledge. You got a lot of anger and judgement, I hope one day you'll be man enough to admit it.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
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Do you ever shut the fuck up?
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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You are gay as hell, bro. Markos is OG. Quit hating on a player that made it.
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Welcome to the hate train
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Definitely foam.
Hit the road hobo, you're no Dharma bum.
I just got a copy of "and the hippos were boiler in their tanks" by jack Kerouac and William s burrows. Excited to read it!
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
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LULZ
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
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Struck a nerve? No. I don't know you. Your comments are irrelevant. You're fishing or projecting. Man enough? I'm 63, I practice honesty, and have personal integrity. I hope you're young, it would explain the obnoxiousness. "Anger," "judgement," or "repressed" anything is in your mind. You're not even qualified to make those evaluations in real life. It's just stupid to attempt amateur analysis on an internet forum. I completed a decade of Jungian analysis with 3 Zurich-trained analysts by 1990 and have been licensed to practice psychotherapy since 1985, trained in hypnotherapy since '89. I'm continually reading and taking continuing education in my field to maintain my credentials. You gonna school me about repression? And without an invitation to boot! Trolls just want to annoy people which is only something a profoundly unhappy individual would do. You have nothing to say.
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Not trolling. I just love challenging the head honcho intellectual. Believe it or not I learn stuff from these heated interactions.
>You have nothing to say.
I like you, so I've been going easy. If this was the romper room and you were TheMovement it'd be a different story.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hobozen]
#23711449 - 10/05/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, but you'd just be bashing your head against a brick wall Hobo. Markos has you bang on on this one, and no amount of cutting insult is gonna help your cause.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Markos is the same every time someone disagrees with him, that's why seeing it happen over and over again is so funny.
He gives a long, pompous spiel about how he's read every book in the world and has a thousand degrees and has studied under every guru going back to Buddha and no-one here is qualified to so much as doubt him, let alone openly disagree.
Anyone who does clearly has a mental illness which he and he alone is qualified to determine over the Internet. You can't do the same to him though because you are an illiterate pleb and this would be 'projection'.
That you guys can't recognise such a massive ego when it's right in your midst is baffling. The guy needs to be trolled in order to lighten up a bit and learn to not bludgeon everybody over the head with what an unbelievable, incredible and total genius he thinks he is.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor]
#23711482 - 10/05/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree. I don't care about his credentials, but his views almost always align with my own. I agree his posts can be a little long winded but what do you expect from a man with such a wealth of knowledge stored in his brain?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Jokeshopbeard said: Yeah, but you'd just be bashing your head against a brick wall Hobo. Markos has you bang on on this one, and no amount of cutting insult is gonna help your cause.
I don't mind being submissive with people I like. I have more ammo, trust you me, but I feel no need to use it.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I disagree. I don't care about his credentials, but his views almost always align with my own.
Yes, the two of you are massively indoctrinated, and as such you have been taught to think how the system wants you to think. Unsurprisingly you have both gravitated to a position of authority, one moderator and one 'virtuous elder' (by his own admission).
As for guys with a wealth of knowledge in their brain, well I used to be one until I began on the spiritual path, at which point I learned that I had to unlearn things to make progress.
Markos is a guy who has evidently made no progress in unlearning things and becoming wise instead of knowledgable, that's why seeing him huff and puff about his degrees and qualifications makes me laugh so hard.
I mean he's just so clearly missed the point of the mountains of information he's processed.
Guys who get it: beforethedawn, hTx, Spacerific, Kurt. These are guys I'd ask for spiritual advice because they'd relate to me on my level, not see me as an inferior like Markos would.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: viktor] 3
#23711587 - 10/05/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I respect your viewpoint viktor, aside of the fact that either Markos or I are 'indoctrinated'. I see neither of us flying a flag of indoctrination to any single belief system.
And much as you question our supposed indoctrination, I am equally highly suspicious of any man who has before referred to himself as 'enlightened', as you have.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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yeah, everyone listen to me instead, i'm wise, not knowledgeable.
i unlearn things bitch!
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23712901 - 10/06/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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no listen to me
I have all the answers
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: yeah]
#23713445 - 10/06/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, listen to me.
I've had a religious experience looked upon the face of god.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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no, me
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: Hippocampus]
#23713707 - 10/06/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy fuck you guys, y'all just wanna be me!
It's cool, I can't blame you. I know I'm awesome, and if your unsure, pm me I'll tell you all about it.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: DrStupid]
#23720953 - 10/08/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DrStupid said:
Trolling is for losers and squares
Dr Stupid, do you have the capacity to be compassionate to all people, including trolls?
All people suffer. It's part of this contract called "life"
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23722930 - 10/09/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have compassion for everyone. I was just making a dumb joke.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: DrStupid]
#23723679 - 10/09/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DrStupid said:
I have compassion for everyone. I was just making a dumb joke.
God bless you
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23726115 - 10/10/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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When we are unhappy we often have an urge to disturb the people around us with innuendo, some of it soft or hard depending on the babbling and verbosity of the unique troll.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23726133 - 10/10/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Dr Stupid, do you have the capacity to be compassionate to all people, including trolls?
I tried showing compassion to a notorious troll a couple of days ago - guess what the result was?
It just gave them more ammo to use against me. LOL.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Less try, more do.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: DrStupid]
#23726491 - 10/10/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DrStupid said: I have compassion for everyone. I was just making a dumb joke.
don't worry about it, it's just a Buddhism trope.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Dr Stupid, do you have the capacity to be compassionate to all people, including trolls?
I tried showing compassion to a notorious troll a couple of days ago - guess what the result was?
It just gave them more ammo to use against me. LOL.
Compassion in those situations though doesn't mean having to compromise yourself. Your heart is wide open my friend and that's what you did(no fault of your own, like I said you just got a wide open heart) and because you opened yourself up, you can be hurt.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: akira_akuma]
#23727411 - 10/11/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a sucker for Buddhist tropes. And I really do have compassion for all things. Some people, however, require a tough love sort of compassion.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: DrStupid]
#23728690 - 10/11/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DrStupid said: I'm a sucker for Buddhist tropes. And I really do have compassion for all things. Some people, however, require a tough love sort of compassion.
Dr Stoopid. Say Hi to foregone dillusions. Show him some con passion puppet. Puppet. Puppet. Dr. Stupid fucking puppet. Really, a fucking puppet.
can puppets show love too?
As to OP, foregone dillusions trolled you HARD. That's his skill, face facts and move on dude.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (10/11/16 03:59 PM)
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23728735 - 10/11/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said:
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DrStupid said: I'm a sucker for Buddhist tropes. And I really do have compassion for all things. Some people, however, require a tough love sort of compassion.
Dr Stoopid. Say Hi to foregone dillusions. Show him some con passion puppet. Puppet. Puppet. Dr. Stupid fucking puppet. Really, a fucking puppet.
can puppets show love too?
As to OP, foregone dillusions trolled you HARD. That's his skill, face facts and move on dude.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: nuentoter]
#23728751 - 10/11/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nuentoter said:
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LunarEclipse said:
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DrStupid said: I'm a sucker for Buddhist tropes. And I really do have compassion for all things. Some people, however, require a tough love sort of compassion.
Dr Stoopid. Say Hi to foregone dillusions. Show him some con passion puppet. Puppet. Puppet. Dr. Stupid fucking puppet. Really, a fucking puppet.
can puppets show love too?
As to OP, foregone dillusions trolled you HARD. That's his skill, face facts and move on dude.

the results are split just like a staph bacteria lol
i like you nuen you seem at least more real than your predicessor who basically suckd balls.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23729111 - 10/11/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nuentoter said:
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LunarEclipse said:
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DrStupid said: I'm a sucker for Buddhist tropes. And I really do have compassion for all things. Some people, however, require a tough love sort of compassion.
Dr Stoopid. Say Hi to foregone dillusions. Show him some con passion puppet. Puppet. Puppet. Dr. Stupid fucking puppet. Really, a fucking puppet.
can puppets show love too?
As to OP, foregone dillusions trolled you HARD. That's his skill, face facts and move on dude.

the results are split just like a staph bacteria lol
i like you nuen you seem at least more real than your predicessor who basically suckd balls.
Well said. I have no idea what you're talking about but you seemed passionate about it. 8/10. Would listen to disjointed rambling again!
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: DrStupid]
#23729182 - 10/11/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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New is good, new is fresh. New is the spice the of life.
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Dr Stupid, do you have the capacity to be compassionate to all people, including trolls?
I tried showing compassion to a notorious troll a couple of days ago - guess what the result was?
It just gave them more ammo to use against me. LOL.
Compassion is about intimately connecting with another person's suffering.
It's frees and releases us from our judgement, anger, and desire to retaliate.
Compassion isn't about changing anyone. We all know that's wasted effort!
When I talk to people about compassion, they often become very very angry.
There is a reason for that! Any idea why, folks? (crickets)
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23730243 - 10/12/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Of all the folks who I thought would do a circastes I never would have guessed LunarEclipse.
Oh well, there but for the grace of God etc.
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Re: People who 'troll' on forums [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23730288 - 10/12/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Compassion is about intimately connecting with another person's suffering.
It's frees and releases us from our judgement, anger, and desire to retaliate.
Compassion isn't about changing anyone. We all know that's wasted effort!
When I talk to people about compassion, they often become very very angry.
There is a reason for that! Any idea why, folks? (crickets)
As demonstrated by the eminent Dr. Sheekle the insult is better utilized than the compliment.
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