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#23646497 - 09/15/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guys, if you are looking to make a buck but have not a clue what to do, Asante has a business plan for you!
Look at these:


These are Bismuth crystals. Bismuth is a low boiling point metal that is cheap to buy in bulk ($10-40 a kilo for high purity metal of at least 99,99%) which you can melt on the kitchen gas stove in a pot.
Once melted you can SLOWLY cool it and it will form a mass of spectacular, neon color, alien crystals. The purer the metal and the slower the cool the bigger the crystals.
Knock the cooking pot with a hammer and the bismuth matal comes unstuck from it, its nonsticky but of course fits the pot snugly cause it has been a molten metal of high density.
If you knock the crystal mass with a hammer you may harvest single and clusters of crystals which might look absolutely spectacular and which will get you a GOOD MARKUP sold online and especially to novelty stores.
Not happy with the shape? Throw back in the pot, remelt, its an atom so you can remelt again and again.
People will think you are some kind of alien wizard artist but all you do is buy a cheap base metal, melt it in the kitchen and solidify it.
Its alchemy, yea, but very simple.
I think you can hear the music. If you buy cheap pure metal in bulk and refine your skills you can turn one tenner into several, maybe even a hundred.
Google image bismuth crystals, they are SO BEAUTIFUL and people cant believe how dirt cheap it is to produce.
You can literally make a living off this if you go balls deep, or some pocket change here and there if you tread lightly.
Look at that stuff, isnt it just like the DMT Elves cooked that up? Picture laying them out on a festival, people will look at that high and be and you got yourself a sale.
Its like diamonds, people pay for how beautiful it is and dont realize the raw material is dirt cheap.
Bismuth is a diamond that cuts itself.
Easy money.
You heard it first right here on the Shroomery.
Start out small, see if you can pull it off and hone your skills to make beautiful crystals, then scale it up. If you become the goldfinger of bismuth crystals Chinese factories will supply it to you for under $10,000 a ton.
This is legal. People buy beauty, a natural work of art that you produce through craftsmanship so its honest work. No permits needed.
The metal is very slightly radioactive (bismuth is a thousand million times less radioactive than the uranium, is about 500 times less radioactive than average dirt.) but regarded as so nontoxic its used in pepto bismol for internal use. It melts low and boils high so almost no fumes.
If someone of you is looking for an opportunity to easily make some money, look into this. Its not rocket science, nor is it regulated, nor needs it be regulated. Keep yourself from spilling molten metal on yourself and you're good. You cahn get the metal, learn the skill, sell the product, make a buck. No crime.
Some of you are dreaming stoner dreams of cooking up a batch of drugs and making it big. No, you are not Walter White. You dont want to mess with watched chemicals, hazardous waste, illegal operations and the dog eat dog world of drug labs.
Bismuth man. Fucking bismuth.

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This youtube tutorial shows the basics. This is an unskilled guy. If you slow the cooling even more (insulation), use higher purity metal and learn how to entice the metal just likes it likes it you get more spectacular looking results.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646503 - 09/15/16 03:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sold. Will let you know how it works out.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: memes] 3
#23646520 - 09/15/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bismuth does sell for quite a bit when it's shiny to gem lovers. I've heard a lot of people on lot talk their rock knowledge on how long it takes the earth to shape them like that and how magical they are.
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#23646521 - 09/15/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm too fucking lazy and financially comfortable to start a mail order business but as you can plainly see this is a scheme that just takes a bit of effort.
Its a craft that produces a work of art. You're not designing, chiselling out and painstakingly anodizing neon colors into the metal, it does it all itself.
It looks not of this world, and it is! Bismuth is only formed in supernova explosions, just like gold, its just a lot more common but theres not much use for it other than pepto bismol and looking pretty.
The market for beautiful shiny crystals at affordable prices is undersaturated. People want eyecandy and when they see it they got to have it.
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#23646531 - 09/15/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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vandago said: Bismuth does sell for quite a bit when it's shiny to gem lovers. I've heard a lot of people on lot talk their rock knowledge on how long it takes the earth to shape them like that and how magical they are.
People with no chemistry and physics knowledge cannot imagine that something so beautiful can form itself from something that is dirt cheap to procure in bulk. They fetishize it and make up stories about how fancy it is to fill the gap in their knowledge.

Dont be a liar. You can of course bait people into enhancing their awe but dont feed them lies, no need, beauty sells itself.
Diamond is carbon too. They dont say that in the sales pitch at Tiffany's.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646538 - 09/15/16 04:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm too fucking lazy and financially comfortable to start a mail order business but as you can plainly see this is a scheme that just takes a bit of effort.
Its a craft that produces a work of art. You're not designing, chiselling out and painstakingly anodizing neon colors into the metal, it does it all itself.
It looks not of this world, and it is! Bismuth is only formed in supernova explosions, just like gold, its just a lot more common but theres not much use for it other than pepto bismol and looking pretty.
The market for beautiful shiny crystals at affordable prices is undersaturated. People want eyecandy and when they see it they got to have it.
The Shroomery man. We help one another.
My friend makes a lot of cash on gem deals. He just orders bulk from pakistan and pieces them out to hippies. Makes a killing.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646541 - 09/15/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool as f*ck 
Not sure if I'm starting a business with it but I'm going to make some for me & friends for sure
Probably next year since my kitchen is still in the making
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Brown Buffalo]
#23646554 - 09/15/16 04:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You probably need a gas stove for it, I'm not sure if electric can pull it off. Melting point is in the same ballpark as tin.
If you can cook three quarts of soup on it a kilo of bismuth should be no problem.
Some kinds of brass are low melting too but thats lots more involved and you get fumes etc.
With strict parental supervision this is one of those things you can gobsmack your kids with.
Just look at that stuff, its something David Icke or Alex Jones would go wild over to explain.

Doesnt it just look like it fell out of a DMT trip?
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646566 - 09/15/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuckin' A it does. Synchronistic timing on this thread Asante, I like it.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646568 - 09/15/16 04:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've always liked those, had no idea they were easy to make. Saving this for later. I'm gonna work it into some woodworking project somehow. Maybe unique drawer/door handles or something. I'd have to play around with it first and see how they come out. Need to look into the whole process but I just checked Ebay to see if they sell for anything and found a "geode" which appears to just be poured into a bowl to cool (if it really is that simple). Could use some metal table spoons as a mold.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEMCORE-3-4-BISMUTH-CRYSTAL-GEODE-Cluster-Powerful-Transformation-USA-Grown-/252531783768?hash=item3acc113858:g:xp8AAOSwFV9X0frz
Scale that down a good bit and it'd be perfect for my initial idea.
Oh another idea. Get long thin molds similar to the cool in a bowl idea and inlay some lines of bismuth crystals into the wood for accents. I'm liking this. Or do some wood carving and pour directly into the wood itself.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Shroomslip]
#23646583 - 09/15/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very cool asante.
But where do u buy the raw material?
And u say u need a gas stovetop?
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23646591 - 09/15/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Raw material can be bought online. They have it at ebay and amazon but generally at a markup. China is the way to go. Make no mistake, China is the land of opportunity and entrepeneurship. Professional businesses love to do business with private consumers if you behave professionally, from the kilo level to the palletload.
Bismuth is usually sold in chunks, lumps and ingots. The former are cheaper as they are less work to produce.
If you can get 99.999% purity cheaply do so, 99.99% would do but if you can get 99999 cheaply you have a way purer material, which favors better outcomes in all kinds of crystallization.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23646596 - 09/15/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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very cool.
U could use the crystal as a centerpiece to a unique piece of art, like a figurine or jewelery. What an awesome i idea!
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23646739 - 09/15/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does cooking metals in your pot leave any residue that needs to be scrubbed off? I'm guessing you don't want to grease the pan with oil.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Crystal G]
#23646751 - 09/15/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scientific literature concurs that bismuth and most of its compounds are less toxic compared to other heavy metals (lead, antimony, etc.) and that it is not bioaccumulative. They have low solubilities in the blood, are easily removed with urine, and showed no carcinogenic, mutagenic or teratogenic effects in long-term tests on animals (up to 2 years).[84] Its biological half-life for whole-body retention is 5 days but it can remain in the kidney for years in patients treated with bismuth compounds.[85]
Bismuth poisoning exists and mostly affects the kidney, liver, and bladder. Skin and respiratory irritation can also follow exposure to respective organs. As with lead, overexposure to bismuth can result in the formation of a black deposit on the gingiva, known as a bismuth line.[86][87][88]
Bismuth's environmental impacts are not very well known. It is considered that its environmental impact is small, due in part to the low solubility of its compounds.[89] Limited information however means that a close eye should be kept on its impact.[85][90][91]
Really doesnt seem to be that toxic
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
#23646902 - 09/15/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im gonna toss a nickel in mine when I try it.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
#23646906 - 09/15/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Really doesnt seem to be that toxic
I'm not talking about toxicity, I'm talking about destroying your pans and not being able to use them for cooking afterwards. Otherwise I'd rather buy a cheap pan from the dollar store and use that instead of the nice cooking pans I have.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Crystal G]
#23646915 - 09/15/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the video that asante posted the guy says that your pan will be ruined
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Crystal G]
#23647178 - 09/15/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Really doesnt seem to be that toxic
I'm not talking about toxicity, I'm talking about destroying your pans and not being able to use them for cooking afterwards. Otherwise I'd rather buy a cheap pan from the dollar store and use that instead of the nice cooking pans I have.
I'd just get some pans from a thrift store. They'll have plenty for cheap.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: vandago]
#23647183 - 09/15/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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vandago said: Bismuth does sell for quite a bit when it's shiny to gem lovers. I've heard a lot of people on lot talk their rock knowledge on how long it takes the earth to shape them like that and how magical they are.
hippies, lol
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23647294 - 09/15/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: You probably need a gas stove for it, I'm not sure if electric can pull it off.
Ill be using a wood stove for cooking but I can use a gas stove in case wood won't be enough
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Brown Buffalo]
#23647560 - 09/15/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think you're going to need a blue flame for this. Or perhaps smaler quantities at a time.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23647685 - 09/15/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm no physicist, but couldn't you use an electric stove and a hand held propane torch to get the job done? Stove would keep the heat from being drawn away too easy/fast and the torch could boost it to the required heat. I imagine it'd be a bit of a pain in the ass to sit there heating up a pot or metal bowl with a torch though.
Short of that you could probably pick up an outdoor propane turkey fryer thing at a garage sale for pretty cheap.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Shroomslip]
#23647695 - 09/15/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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#23660346 - 09/19/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just came across this while trying to figure out if the giant pile of circuit boards I have has any real value and basically fits perfectly with this thread so I'm posting it.
Getting gold from circuit boards and it seems pretty easy to do: http://www.instructables.com/id/Gold-recovery/
Unless circuit boars with gold in them are rare, I've probably got a very good chunk of change sitting up in my attic right now.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Shroomslip]
#23660398 - 09/20/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty cool. Posting to take a look at it later.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Enjoywho]
#23660403 - 09/20/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet you could make molds and such to make them into animal shapes and shit. That'd be pretty cool.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Enjoywho]
#23660635 - 09/20/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was considering doing this a few years back, may have to give it some more though. Certainly could at least invest in a kilo of bismuth to mess with.
Had a chunk me and some friends would melt with a propane torch then reform over and over again as it slowly burned away
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I figure, as crystals go, that if you throw a small chunk of bismuth metal in the pot close to its melting point and keep stirring the pot, you get a crystal that is beautifully formed on all sides as it grows in all directions.
A seed crystal, as it were.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#23785387 - 10/30/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Coolsauce stuff guys
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Crystal G said: Does cooking metals in your pot leave any residue that needs to be scrubbed off? I'm guessing you don't want to grease the pan with oil.
It's going to be almost impossible to clean it off the pot once it crystallizes. The melting point is over 200C which means even boiling water wouldn't melt it. Also it's a non-ionized metal so it's not going to become water soluble, and surfactants only work on non-polar substances anyway so soap won't help. You could probably dissolve bismuth with either H2SO4 or HNO3 but either of those acids will destroy your pots. The melting point is low for a metal so you could just use a shitty pot from the dollar store.
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#23785721 - 10/30/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I was melting bismuth with friends we literally just used a flat piece of metal and a torch
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Crystal G said: Does cooking metals in your pot leave any residue that needs to be scrubbed off? I'm guessing you don't want to grease the pan with oil.
It's going to be almost impossible to clean it off the pot once it crystallizes. The melting point is over 200C which means even boiling water wouldn't melt it. Also it's a non-ionized metal so it's not going to become water soluble, and surfactants only work on non-polar substances anyway so soap won't help. You could probably dissolve bismuth with either H2SO4 or HNO3 but either of those acids will destroy your pots. The melting point is low for a metal so you could just use a shitty pot from the dollar store.
Nope if you just knock the pot with a hammer it comes out. Bismuth fills every crevice but it doesn't "stick". Likewise if you knock a cryastal mass you can knock loose individual crystals.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
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I stand by my statement, you would have to be nuts to eat out of the same pot you crystallized bismuth in. Even if bismuth is safe there are still potentially toxic impurities.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: I stand by my statement, you would have to be nuts to eat out of the same pot you crystallized bismuth in. Even if bismuth is safe there are still potentially toxic impurities.
I doubt its any worse then the crap in my non stick pan I need to replace 
I was worried more about fumes when I was melting it as I am sure it puts off some weird stuff when hit with a torch I did it outside though
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: musiclover420]
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You can get a pan from craigslist for free if you don't want to spend money.
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fapjack said: I stand by my statement, you would have to be nuts to eat out of the same pot you crystallized bismuth in. Even if bismuth is safe there are still potentially toxic impurities.
Wouldnt it be some shit if it made it non stick? Lol
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I have a chatterbate site that consists of me of cooking on cam. It's pretty lucrative, but it's no food network.
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#23785839 - 10/30/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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fapjack said: You can get a pan from craigslist for free if you don't want to spend money.
I have a few pans I just need a nicer non stick wok pan as mine is made with questionable materials I believe.
I have a cast iron pan but everything always sticks to it...
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: fapjack]
#23785924 - 10/30/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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fapjack said: I stand by my statement, you would have to be nuts to eat out of the same pot you crystallized bismuth in. Even if bismuth is safe there are still potentially toxic impurities.
dont whine about it, either eat it or dont.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#24037717 - 01/25/17 03:18 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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I hope this has helped some people along!
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
#24040136 - 01/25/17 11:49 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Me too man, me too.
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i gotta wonder if sound makes a difference in the shape of the crystals when they're cooling/growing. this calls for some experimentation.
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istandalone said: i gotta wonder if sound makes a difference in the shape of the crystals when they're cooling/growing. this calls for some experimentation.
It should in theory.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#24040707 - 01/26/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Has anyone from the community here actually tried this? Any pics of results?
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I was thinking of trying this and selling it on eBay but there are so many people on there selling bismuth already it'd be hard to make yours stand out.
Where else could you sell these?
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Festivals. You'd make a killing at the right fest IMO.
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#24040776 - 01/26/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I have a subwoofer....anyone want to send me a sample to work with?
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#24040892 - 01/26/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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The sale price of bismuth "crystals" has gone up.
If you can do it in a well ventilated area, and have sales ideas in mind, go for it. But don't expect to sell loads at art fairs or to rock shops unless you're making right good shit. The market for singular crystals is limited and most rock shops probably already have a supplier.
You also have to pay and pay alot to vend at large festivals and it is illegal to just stand in the parking lot with pockets full of rocks trying to sell them off. I dunno if you'd get arrested but they can throw you out and they probably will if someone complains about a weird hippie with alien rocks harassing them as they walk out from their car.
Online is your best bet but again you will be in the market with thousands of others so you really have to think about your selling point.
Unless you really do live in a pure hippie town full of hipsters that actually have money. You're good if that's the case.
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#24040895 - 01/26/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I dont want to sell, I just want to experiment
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#24040900 - 01/26/17 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Has anyone from the community here actually tried this? Any pics of results?
Not this specifically. But I work with my sister in law who makes and sells gemstone jewelry. She doesn't buy bismuth anymore because the 'raw crystals' are so expensive now and, as jewelry, they take a very long time to sell. They're not worth the shelf space for the time being. Compared to her other works.
Bismuth generally doesn't make the most appealing jewelry though.
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#24040901 - 01/26/17 10:35 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I do too honestly  I just don't have the space or materials right now.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Some smart someone is selling "bismuth geods" on Amazon.
I suppose it's vaguely possible to have bismuth crystals grow on other rocks but rainbow color bismuth crystals growing inside another rock? I dunno but I'd think it'd be worth quite a bit more than $30 for a 2" geod half. But that's sorta what I'm talking about. The crystal itself isn't a great market but you can get creative with it and there is money to be made. What this person did was get or make an empty geod half and then glewed the rainbow colored bismuth inside.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#24043260 - 01/27/17 09:17 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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I'm not going to start doing that stuff but interesting, thanks
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CookieCrumbs said: Some smart someone is selling "bismuth geods" on Amazon.
I suppose it's vaguely possible to have bismuth crystals grow on other rocks but rainbow color bismuth crystals growing inside another rock? I dunno but I'd think it'd be worth quite a bit more than $30 for a 2" geod half. But that's sorta what I'm talking about. The crystal itself isn't a great market but you can get creative with it and there is money to be made. What this person did was get or make an empty geod half and then glewed the rainbow colored bismuth inside.
are you sure they didn't use a geode as a "seed crystal"?
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: istandalone]
#24089156 - 02/14/17 07:08 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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i also wonder how much (or how little) using a kiln (annealing oven) to slow down the cooling process. if a slow cool is what makes the neatest crystals, then maybe an 8 hour ramp down (cooling schedule) would make really intricate crystals.
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
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As a rockhound myself, I actually thought that these were artificially dyed metals. I didn't know that they got their colors that way. That is really interesting!
I find them gawdy, but I do know people like them. I am definitely going to try making them because I would like to see what comes out of it and that I would have something I made myself, which just like digging for crystals, is a very rewarding experience.
I do need the money, so if they look good, I would try to sell them. Thanks so much for the information!!
I did just a LITTLE research since I um, am at work now, but didn't see information on how much of the metal to buy for a descent sized "yield" I don't want to buy it and then end up with this tiny little thing. It all just says "add some bismuth metal chunks to a pot"
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Re: Making easy legal money in your kitchen - A Free Asante Business Plan! [Re: Asante]
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I've been solidly considering this for a time... Thank you for the reminder.
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