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Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC
    #23646128 - 09/14/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi guys ! i have started a pf tek folowing some guides here on the forum , im almost one week into growth and my micelium network is looking decent , about the size of two coins so far , its growing a little slow because its only at 70farenight , ideal temperature is 85f , i have bought a 100 watt aquarium heater but it seems to be doing very little effect and i wana know how to improve this , can some onw help ? best regards


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23646135 - 09/14/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: amidogen]
    #23646211 - 09/14/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sucks you spent money on that aquarium heater... since it's a paperweight basically.  Maybe invest in a fish tank and some cichlids?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23646284 - 09/15/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Aquarium incubators are a recipe for contams. might as well get some fish ^_^
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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23646603 - 09/15/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hi guys ! i have started a pf tek folowing some guides here on the forum , im almost one week into growth and my micelium network is looking decent , about the size of two coins so far , its growing a little slow because its only at 70farenight , ideal temperature is 85f , i have bought a 100 watt aquarium heater but it seems to be doing very little effect and i wana know how to improve this , can some onw help ? best regards




Room temperature is best with ambient light.  Ditch the heater


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: twistedty]
    #23661398 - 09/20/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hi guys , i keept reading on the forums about TIT chambers and 82F to optimal growth , so yeah , for now i have the aqurium heater inside a plastic watter bottle and it warms about three degrees inside my box , not very efective but i think its helping me keep in the right temp range , i never go over 75F box temp so i think they are doing ok , i will post some pics of my setup soon :smile: and thank you all for your replies <3


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661416 - 09/20/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ok guys , here are a few pics of my setup and my mecilum , what do you guys think ? best regards








it seems like i have execive condensation on the sides of the containers where the micelelium is forming , is this normal ? will it harm my grow ? if its harmful how do i make it normal ? i was told i can remove the foil from the jars , but i think its helping protect from contaminations , im afraid one thin layer of dry vermiculite is not enough to protect from airborne contaminations
feel free to share your thoughts <3


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661431 - 09/20/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You need holes for gas exchange in that foil, if you have lids under that foil then take the foil off. Get them out of that box they need ambient light as well as GE. Yep a little moisture is normal


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23661454 - 09/20/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what is the deal with evry one saying mycelium needs light to grow ? they grow undergrownd in nature with no light at all , all videos i saw on youtube about pf tek say to incubate in a warm dark place like on top of fridge on a garbage bag , and now people are telling my i need light ? can some one please point me into some solid proof that light will improve in any way my grow ?

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23661460 - 09/20/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

a watched jar will never colonize!!!

the only issue with the grow.. so far is the 'incubation'.
this set up fails..

lame tit incubator/bacterial farm. in my bedroom tying to be stealth


set up is #1 good time(chinese take out voice)

my china hutch in the kitchen. big picture window sliding glass door thing.

also im curious about your jar/container size.. why so small? and ditch the foil.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661464 - 09/20/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what is the deal with evry one saying mycelium needs light to grow ? they grow undergrownd in nature with no light at all , all videos i saw on youtube about pf tek say to incubate in a warm dark place like on top of fridge on a garbage bag , and now people are telling my i need light ? can some one please point me into some solid proof that light will improve in any way my grow ?

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OK why ask for advice then flame, why dont you UTFSE and learn yourself, you tube is full of shit incorrect nonsense.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661470 - 09/20/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what is the deal with evry one saying mycelium needs light to grow ? they grow undergrownd in nature with no light at all , all videos i saw on youtube about pf tek say to incubate in a warm dark place like on top of fridge on a garbage bag , and now people are telling my i need light ? can some one please point me into some solid proof that light will improve in any way my grow ?

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unless its lets grow mushrooms.. IGNORE YOUTUBE!!

the 'deal' is called a fact.

also the sun penetrates the ground with all kinds of
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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23661482 - 09/20/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what is the deal with evry one saying mycelium needs light to grow ? they grow undergrownd in nature with no light at all , all videos i saw on youtube about pf tek say to incubate in a warm dark place like on top of fridge on a garbage bag , and now people are telling my i need light ? can some one please point me into some solid proof that light will improve in any way my grow ?

best regards



OK why ask for advice then flame, why dont you UTFSE and learn yourself, you tube is full of shit incorrect nonsense.



im in no way flaming bro , im quite glad you are "wasting" your time trying to help me improve my grow since im a noob i could use help from you guys here on the forum , im not saying incubation with light will not work , im just sayng untill i find solid prof of that i will keep doing in the dark for now , need to do more research it seems :smile:


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661492 - 09/20/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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im just sayng untill i find solid prof of that i will keep doing in the dark for now




ack....:no:

since i know nothing about cars(this is an example) im going to assume
water in my gas tank will be better for the ozone layer.
prove me wrong!!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8468486#8468486
read through this..

use 'clt f' to find the word light


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661494 - 09/20/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

so far i have remove the foil , allow light to penetrate and remove the aquarium heater , anything else im doing whrong ? can i keep them inside the cardbord box and put some holes on the sides for gas exange and light penetration ?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mushboy]
    #23661495 - 09/20/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What proof do you need its a fact, do your own experiment stick a jar in the ambient light see what happens. My first grow went in a dark warm cupboard now always in ambient light the difference is well night and day pardon the pun. Dark slow shitty growth ime
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im just sayng untill i find solid prof of that i will keep doing in the dark for now




ack....:no:

since i know nothing about cars(this is an example) im going to assume
water in my gas tank will be better for the ozone layer.
prove me wrong!!



Lol I'm a mechanic so I could :rofl: but I'd love someone to try it haha but a bit of water injection to cool turbo charge temps does happen


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661500 - 09/20/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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so far i have remove the foil , allow light to penetrate and remove the aquarium heater , anything else im doing whrong ? can i keep them inside the cardbord box and put some holes on the sides for gas exange and light penetration ?



Why do you think you need a box?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661511 - 09/20/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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so far i have remove the foil , allow light to penetrate and remove the aquarium heater , anything else im doing whrong ? can i keep them inside the cardbord box and put some holes on the sides for gas exange and light penetration ?




you could!!
better than in the dark with a heatbomb.

just leave them out somewhere random if possible.
the less 'human interference' the better. its a fungus. dont lock it away.
it need to live, breathe, grow, and a colonizing substrate produces a
couple degrees of heat. my house is always at 74f. i bet inside my jars is
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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661515 - 09/20/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

seems like im missing alot of the basics , not sure what is going on haha , i tought i need to keep the jars inside somthing to protect them from contaminations , is the layer of vermiculite enough to protect them from airborne contaminations ? oh and by the way , i know my jars look prety small , but they are 0.25Litters each , that is about half pint jar i think so at least

some one point me in the right direction to improve my incubation please <3


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661516 - 09/20/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yep the dry verm does that job as long as you aren't picking them up and disturbing it.
They don't need incubation as in warm box just sit them somewhere they won't be bothered and get ambient light not glaring sun light, and you won't go far wrong


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661525 - 09/20/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

on another note , i have this liquid cultire i made with honey and destiled watter , i fildered once with a coffee filter to remove most of the sediments and the jar looked prety clean after i pc'd for 15 minutes , now it has been about 12 days and its looking like this



are those black dots sights of contamination ? does this look ok ? also can i also germinate mycelium on a liquid culture on light outside a box like the brf jars ?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23661530 - 09/20/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you'll notice a big difference whether they get light or not.  Put them on your shelf, put them in a box, whatever.  I just leave my jars sitting on a shelf where they happen to get ambient light, but I couldn't care less if they get light or not. 
Just don't use an incubator and let them get some g.e. via the holes in your lids.


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    #23661534 - 09/20/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

did you make that lc with spores?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Kenetic]
    #23661545 - 09/20/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes spore serynge i think that might be why i have those dark spots

also is this lc ready to use or i need to wait more ?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661563 - 09/20/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't even think about using an lc made from spores.  It's sure to be contaminated. Spores are generally pretty dirty. You should make it with agar or something, but you'd have to look it up because I stay away from lc. 

Look into LI  if you want to go that route.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Kenetic]
    #23661600 - 09/20/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

my spore seryinge came from a reputated online website , i was gessing it was prety clean and sterile :/ i was counting on a LC to keep restocking on my musshies :frown: i dont want to have to buy serynges like evry two months X)

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661619 - 09/20/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can buy premixed PDA (potato dextrose agar) that you just add water to off eBay its about £5 for 100g over here.


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    #23661623 - 09/20/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You can buy premixed PDA (potato dextrose agar) that you just add water to off eBay its about £5 for 100g over here.



intresting ! might try this ! thanks for letting me know ^^


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23661654 - 09/20/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've had plenty of syringes from reputable sponsors that had some form of contamination, like bacteria. 

You don't have to keep buying spores, you simply have to make a spore print (or prints) after you harvest.  Wash, rinse, repeat. 
Get some prints and you can then trade them for different prints in the marketplace for free.

If you really want control over your grow, agar is easy and very useful means to achieve this goal.  Don't let it intimidate you.  Look up pasty plates, it's a very reliable method and easy too!


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Kenetic]
    #23662316 - 09/20/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23662658 - 09/20/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you dont need light to colonize. leave them in the dark or little indirect light either way they will colonize and fruit...


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23662666 - 09/20/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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my spore seryinge came from a reputated online website , i was gessing it was prety clean and sterile :/ i was counting on a LC to keep restocking on my musshies :frown: i dont want to have to buy serynges like evry two months X)

i need to try that agar stuff , but its quite hard for me to get all the stuff i need


  Ditch buying syringes ,Just try some grain to grain jars, and take one 1cc of spores very long way,  LC sucks


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: bakenast]
    #23662690 - 09/20/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: bakenast]
    #23662705 - 09/20/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you dont need light to colonize. leave them in the dark or little indirect light either way they will colonize and fruit...




no you dont NEED it but its beneficial. i dont NEED to bang my wife every day.. but it HELPS.

in all seriousness, with all my grows I've seen a distinct improvement when jars are exposed to light. literally come out of the dark ages.


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    #23662710 - 09/20/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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my spore seryinge came from a reputated online website , i was gessing it was prety clean and sterile :/ i was counting on a LC to keep restocking on my musshies :frown: i dont want to have to buy serynges like evry two months X)

i need to try that agar stuff , but its quite hard for me to get all the stuff i need


  Ditch buying syringes ,Just try some grain to grain jars, and take one 1cc of spores very long way,  LC sucks





Or... you could use agar and make a single drop of spores last forever, instead of expanding already bacterial grain to more grain.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23664029 - 09/21/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the tips ^^ now i want to try agar and rye spawn :smile:


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    #23667900 - 09/22/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

guys , what is goin on on this jar ? is this normal ? looks alot mor dense than it should be :/ welp !




should i take this one out of my box ? :o


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    #23669956 - 09/23/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

no one coments on this?  :/


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23670037 - 09/23/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry man, it looks kind of bad to me.  Pics are usually hard to interpret due to differences in screen res and image quality, but all I see is a solid, milky mass with no distinguishable mycelial threads.....which indicates a heavy bacterial infestation.
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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Kenetic]
    #23670049 - 09/23/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Very bad, yes.  Either unsalvagably bacterial or, somehow, worse than that.  Definitely not what I would call good, by any stretch, though.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23670113 - 09/23/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

aight guys , thanks for letting me know , thanks what i tought too


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    #23678451 - 09/25/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

temps inside my incubator are at 70farenight, mycelium seems to be growing very slow , how can i speed that process ?
i alredy have an aquarium heater but it seems like its not efective enough. help pleasee :smile:


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23678681 - 09/26/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There is no way to speed up colonization unless you like also introducing advantages to the competetive molds and bacteria you're trying to avoid.  This hobby is going to teach you patience one way or another, either by rewarding you for having it, or showing you what happens when you don't.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23678709 - 09/26/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kamy, I inoculated 12 1/2 pint jars on the 19th of last month. It took five days for me to see any growth. After that I used a dry erase marker to outline each day's growth and documented each day in a journal. At first I thought my jars were to dry, I am a worrier and over think things way too much, but everything was spot on. I had 6 jars ready to go into the fruiting chamber at two weeks. The other six jars were slow moving so I flipped them over and popped them on my palm in order to draw fresh air into the jars. It took another week and a half for those jars to be ready to be birthed. The first six jars were birthed at two weeks, pinned at three weeks, and harvested at weeks four & five. Thought maybe that would be a rough timeline for you but different circumstances will effect times.
    Also when colonizing, I kept them at 72-76 degrees and offered them atleast three hours of light each day in order to keep the mycelium as healthy as I could. Once they were birthed and chambered I kept the temperature the same and brought the humidity up to 90-100%. Then it was fan/mist every 6-8 hours, with a light cycle of 18 hrs. Light, 6 hrs dark. After a few days in the chamber the mycelium grew around the verm, I rolled it in and were bright white and really fuzzy, almost like cotton. At that point I took them out and gave them a heavy 10 second mist about 18 inches above the chamber. I left them on my table receiving indirect sunlight for 5 hours. I repeated this two days in a row in order to help initiate pinning. Within a day or two my cakes were covered in thick healthy pins. At that point I dropped humidity to 80-85% while the temp. Remained constant at 72-76 degrees. Pins were at half maturity starting at the end of the fourth week.
    As some of these guys stated, heat is pretty much your enemy when it comes to bacteria. I will say a few times it got to 82 degrees where my jars were and I saw a significant difference in mycelium growth on those days. But I didn't want to chance it and lose my jars so I would drop the temp as soon as I possibly could.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Cagney]
    #23678712 - 09/26/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why are you using an 18/6 light cycle exactly?  12/12 works just as well or better.  All this talk of raising and dropping humidity... just mist when it's dry, that's all you have to do.  Especially in a SGFC where you shouldn't even need to be looking at numbers.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23678717 - 09/26/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just sharing for what has worked for me, wasn't trying to upset anybody or ruffle your feathers mate.


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    #23678770 - 09/26/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Handling the jars that much each day could disturb the dry verm allowing in contams, it happens I accidentally banged a jar last week when pulling out my plates now that jars full of black shit at the verm layer. I look at mine once a week now just to see if I need to bin any and update my journals, the less you can handle them the better.
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    #23678808 - 09/26/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

seems like the concent is that 70 farenight is a decent temp to grow micelium , i look way too much at my jars :/ first time grower , im always curous on how they are doing eheh


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    #23678820 - 09/26/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My point is I don't know because I don't need to know if it was that important I wouldn't have managed to grow anything. Common sense tells me if its too cold or too hot (to hot will never happen here) and I'll just move it into a room I feel comfortable in. I'm sure its more important on large scale stuff you don't wanna lose multiple tubs but even then these FCS are all designed for simplicity sticking gauges on and in them seems pointless. Getting everything built to spec and all teks followed correctly is way more important, and learning to spot things by actually looking at your sub's/fruits.


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    #23678836 - 09/26/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only electronics I use are the lights and the timer they're attached to, which has been on 12/12 for the better part of 2-3 years.  Before that I did it manually because I was still excited enough to check on things every day.

The meters and gadgets and shit are going to train you to fixate on things that are irrelevant to what you want to be paying attention to.  The surface of the mycelium tells you everything you need to know, and unless your hygrometer can measure the exact humidity along the surface of the substrate then it will never be accurate or relevant anyway.  A humid chamber can have a dry substrate in it, and a dry chamber can have a waterlogged one.  What you need to be paying attention to is how long it takes things to evaporate.  Focusing on anything else is going to distract from the patterns you need to be learning to spot.  And if you haven't learned that life is one big game of "spot the pattern!" then eat more mushrooms I guess.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23681746 - 09/26/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Aight guys , two of my jars are close to full colonization now , im gona give it 7/10 more days to consolidate than im moving them into the Fruiting Chamber , cant wait for that *.* also i was wondering, were do i buy rye grain to make transferable grain jars ?


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23683340 - 09/27/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

just a tip.. focus on this grow before thinking about your next one.
like learn to crawl before you walk style.

grains are way easier than pf but it took a few runs of grains
before i mastered the moisture content part.

nothings worse then cleaning out a clumpy, stinky, bacterial ass
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    #23683484 - 09/27/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Bacterial grains is a nasty smell, but I have to say last night I PC'd a few supplemented oak sawdust bags and that stank up my spawn room like I had drank a fifth of whiskey and puked in the trashcan.


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    #23683496 - 09/27/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

nice..

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my dad ate some shitty crab legs that night.

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    #23705771 - 10/04/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hello again guys , its has been one week since two of my jars reached full colonization , so today i poped them out to do the wash and soak them for 24 hours , but somthing does not look right ... can i save those jars ? the inside looks good but that stuff looks like mould ?




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    #23705812 - 10/04/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is it like a cobweb, or does it look like melted ice? Hard to tell in the picture one picture it looks wet almost like a clear gel?


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    #23705880 - 10/04/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

its like a very very dence cobweb


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    #23705882 - 10/04/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the smell was prety sweet , shroomy smell


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    #23706605 - 10/04/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry Kamy fell asleep, if it's like a dense cobweb spray it with some hydrogen peroxide 3%-5%, should cause it to clear right up. I would mist all your cakes with the peroxide, it won't hurt the mycelium.


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    #23706614 - 10/04/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The thing is... cobweb mold (dactyllium) doesn't look like cobweb at all, and it's certainly not dense.  So... Peroxide will do nothing at all to help unless it is in fact dactylium, which it is not, because I'm looking at it right now.  Do not.. mist your cakes with peroxide, because it is in fact toxic to the mycelium.

It might be some kind of mold, but it doesn't look like cobweb to me at all.  If it was cobweb, then it will have at least tripled in size since the time that photo was taken.

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    #23706726 - 10/04/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

But can i put those cakes on my terrarium?


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    #23706774 - 10/04/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm gonna lean toward no.  Maybe isolate them until they start changing color if you don't want to have any regrets about it possibly being good.  I wouldn't though.  Got enough shit that wants to grow in my room after a few poorly attended grows, not gonna give anything a head start now.


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    #23708487 - 10/04/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i will isolate them , i still have some hope on them , lets see how they look after the dunk and roll :p


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    #23708787 - 10/05/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sort of just looks like fluffy myc to me I get the same growing through the dry verm layer never had a cake go bad yet once in sgfc that green one looks worrying though unless it bruised, but I'm not as experienced as innoc so don't take my word as gospel. Your problem will be your pmp if the fae isn't good they will mold up a treat. SGFC FTW


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    #23708977 - 10/05/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Sort of just looks like fluffy myc to me I get the same growing through the dry verm layer never had a cake go bad yet once in sgfc that green one looks worrying though unless it bruised, but I'm not as experienced as innoc so don't take my word as gospel. Your problem will be your pmp if the fae isn't good they will mold up a treat. SGFC FTW




Yes yes! I want to agree with you,  ill put them on the fc and see how they go from there,  its worth the try ^^

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    #23794497 - 11/02/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

hi again guys , after all tghis time i finaly get to see some mushrooms !but they are taking forever to grow , im gessing its too cold im my bedroom ? my question is , can i eat this ? what am i doing whrong ?

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    #23794573 - 11/02/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Mutants are fine to eat. Looks like they are way over watered is that puddles I see on your cakes
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    #23794589 - 11/02/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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whats whrong?

thats a half sgfc.
waaaay to much misting.
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    #23796847 - 11/03/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

good to know that i can eat that mutant he is getting pretty big :laugh:

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    #23797837 - 11/03/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You should put more holes in it, or fan it more frequently. I've found that if I take a sterilized drill bit and drill a hole in the top of the cake about a half an inch deep, then take a sanitized section of a drinking straw about two and a half inches long, stick down in the hole, fill with water, I get bigger fruits and I don't have to mist the cakes at all, just the walls and a light misting in the air when things seem dry.


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    #23797894 - 11/03/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: amidogen]
    #23799438 - 11/03/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

good to know what watering my mushrooms directly wont hurt them :smile: ill gess ill keep misting three times a day , and im gona do a few more wholes on the box ,you guys seem prety consistent about that :smile:

thanks for the help ! this are looking intresting now ! im gona try to post some more pics latter


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23800957 - 11/04/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not just a few mate 2" x 2" grid pattern on all 6 sized thats lid and bottom. Otherwise you aint got a sgfc.


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    #23805334 - 11/06/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Guys , very serious question , those abours have grown to an absurd size and i picked them today , they didnt droped the spores but they were starting to look like they were dying so i picked them , my question is , can i eat this ? (i will dry it first ofcorse)


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    #23805360 - 11/06/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

when i cut them open they were hollow on the inside , that is wierd , but they look decent , normal collor and barely any smell , just a slight shroomery smell , all seems to be in order , i placed them on the dehidrator , lets see how they turn out ^^


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3] * 1
    #23805500 - 11/06/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If you think hollow stems are weird you have no frame of reference for what's weird.


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    #23805668 - 11/06/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think hollow stems are weird you have no frame of reference for what's weird.



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    #23805763 - 11/06/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I got that part.  I just thought maybe you weren't a first time reader.  Look up some information about the species you're growing.  You'll find out all kinds of stuff that will prevent you from thinking particular features are weird, which can make the whole process smoother for you.  :shrug:


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23815184 - 11/09/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hello again, i ate two grams and had a strong trip,  it was prety amazing ^^
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    #23815320 - 11/09/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good to hear you had a great trip!

Your cakes and mushies looking very slimy and wet and some are deformed because of heavy misting. Give more FAE and try to find the right balance for better yield and healthy mushrooms.


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: shrumzen]
    #23818744 - 11/10/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yes you are right i will avoid havy misting seems like they are getting hurt my bad


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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23824757 - 11/12/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

how do you guys mist your fruiting chambers ? is there any videos that might help me ? i have seen roger rabbit lets grow ,mushrooms and i loooved it , learned a lot


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    #23824781 - 11/12/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

GUYS what is wrong with this cake and what should i do with it? Help please


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    #23824809 - 11/12/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is it me or is that thing green?


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    #23824867 - 11/12/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

´haha no its looks okay ish and smells nice , its overwatered and mushrooms look like they are behuining to rot ?

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Re: Kamy's Firt Grow - PF Tek & LC [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23825115 - 11/12/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is that a puddle of moisture on top of your cake?. Do you have plenty of fresh air exchange. Post a pic of the whole chamber please.


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    #23825125 - 11/12/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree definitely to wet. Maybe take some fresh verm and sprinkle on there to absorb some of the excess moisture and don't mist the cake directly.i don't see any vents in your chamber in pic, do you fan your cakes to give them fresh air or do you have another type of fresh air exchange?


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    #23825130 - 11/12/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My bad, I didn't see where someone else already asked about the moisture. I am new to this forum and am still getting used to the format.


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    #23831030 - 11/14/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes i have holes on my chamber and i manualy exange the air once or twice a day,  im gessing i watered that cake beyond repair,  i thrown it away today rip cake number 3 :frown:


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    #23831118 - 11/14/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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GUYS what is wrong with this cake and what should i do with it? Help please





First smell the cake. If it does not smell like a fresh mushroom, toss it.

As I said your cakes looking much too wet, stop misting for the next couple of days until the water drops on the walls of the fc are disappeared. Do you have a hygrometer? I do recommend using a hygrometer if you are growing for the first time. It easily tells you if your fruiting chamber is in the correct range of humidity. Around 90% is perfect for the spawn run.

Here you can see what proper misting looks like

If you have not build a sgfc, make sure you fan 3-6 times for about 30 seconds a day.


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