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TripBalls
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Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique!
#23646051 - 09/14/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's been awhile since I've logged in or posted.. Haven't seen a fresh Mushie in months! Just wanted to pop in and see if anything has progressed!
Check it out, and let me know what you think:
My System (in a nutshell)
I was running Monotubs of 50/50cv Using a lb of 50/50 and one qt whole grain spawn in 23qt tubs..
I feel as I have room for updates and inprovements, as I started noticing a higher contam rate, and longer spawn incubation times..
I was averaging 4-6 weeks to even fully colonize a spawn jar. I PC @15psi for 100 minutes, rarely letting it slip below 90 mins. 24hour soak, boil until tender and steamed off until the grains were no longer obviously saturated.
I use Whole oats and wheat for spawn..
Was yielding around 1 oz on the first flush, give or take 1/4 oz.
Overall total yield was 3-4.5 oz per tub in total after about 3-5 disorganized flushes. I chose polyfill holes for FAE over "fanning"
I'm hopeful to get some enlightenment towards producing bigger yields a little bit faster. I also would like to experiement more with G2G and agar.. I feel like a noob again! Any critique is greatly appreciated! I'm looking forward to being back on the forums! Help my dumbass!
-------------------- I Followed Frank's Footsteps This guy is a hero. Bod’s system saved my life as well.. if these guys can’t get you where you need to be, you’re in the wrong hobby. Rate me cause I'm a nice guy? Not all who wander are lost, but I sure as fuck am
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Boogieman47
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: TripBalls]
#23646084 - 09/14/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never used wheat but oats you should pc for 2 hours inocuole has a tek for prepping oats and there are a couple more where you boil them ... do you mean damion50/50's tek or you are using half been half coir? I could be wrong but I think most people use 2 quarts verm to a brick of coir. And maybe use 1.5qts- 2qts spawn on your tub I've never used that small of tub I think pasty uses 2 qts on a 27
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tump
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Boogieman47]
#23646099 - 09/14/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Green houses are now in. Also speed wise. Blender li then grain slurry teks a 100 jars at the time is the fastest. But monos are still cool.
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TripBalls
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Boogieman47]
#23646100 - 09/14/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: Never used wheat but oats you should pc for 2 hours
I'm afraid the oats will split.. Do you have a link to the spawn prep tek? Or any tek.. I'm looking to see what others are into.. Proportions are a big question for me. I eyeball everything! Seeing others with a good system may help me change my ways.
-------------------- I Followed Frank's Footsteps This guy is a hero. Bod’s system saved my life as well.. if these guys can’t get you where you need to be, you’re in the wrong hobby. Rate me cause I'm a nice guy? Not all who wander are lost, but I sure as fuck am
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TripBalls
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: tump]
#23646105 - 09/14/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tump said: Green houses are now in. Also speed wise. Blender li then grain slurry teks a 100 jars at the time is the fastest. But monos are still cool.
Using the slurry for spawn or something like a g2g-LC hybrid? This is cool, and I have a greenhouse I've always wanted to build up! Care to share what humidifiers work best?
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Mad Season
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: tump]
#23646109 - 09/14/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dafuq? Pretty sure monos are still the #1 tek recommended and used. Green houses are good if you're able to fine-tune the parameters needed for proper fruiting. There's not really a set tek on GHs. Personally if I made a gh I'd just get a cool mist or some BS, and have it fall from up top on an interval I find best. Fae is more important anyways. But why go through the effort? Monotub is like poke 6 holes, put poly in it, spawn ???? Harvest
I personally pc my oats for 2.5 hours because of endos. It makes them more caramelized looking, but myc just eats it up.
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: TripBalls]
#23646122 - 09/14/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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A big factor is whatever culture you are using, 4-6 weeks is really a long time even from spores. I would put some energy into that and make that a priority, you can use dozens of different grains, it just comes down to preference and price. Also, when you get that worked on you can try out the casing and fruiting at spawning method to get faster first flushes.
And here is a good guide on a few different spawns and prep https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22524362
Edited by Rooster Cogburn (09/14/16 11:06 PM)
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
#23646123 - 09/14/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also get into agar if you haven't.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Mad Season]
#23646127 - 09/14/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been running mine for 2 hours and 15 minutes sometimes 2.5 if I'm doing a marathon and I'm on the last set of jars ... op the search engine just type oats tek two if they are whole oats with the hull they won't split
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Boogieman47]
#23646214 - 09/14/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: do you mean damion50/50'sDamion5050's tek or you are using half been half coir?
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Boogieman47
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Inocuole]
#23646217 - 09/14/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lmao thanks noc and I meant verm I got a new phone which blows donkey dick it keeps auto correcting shit
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: TripBalls]
#23646225 - 09/15/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey im not sure if im posting in the right section but im new to shroomery and have no idea how to ask questions like I see so many otgers doing. Any help would be great, Thanks!
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Boogieman47
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: IrishFields]
#23646231 - 09/15/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Go back to the forum and look for where it says post
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: IrishFields]
#23646256 - 09/15/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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IrishFields
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: Inocuole]
#23646289 - 09/15/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you, this is a big help much appreciated.
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TripBalls
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: IrishFields]
#23646495 - 09/15/16 03:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is the preferred method to speeding up colonization? I like the slurry idea, but worry about contam... Should I be intimidated? I use a simple SAB. But even then I have always doubted SABs, literally to the point of flame-sterilizing a sponge of 91% iso inadvertently inside my SAB, completely wiping out all traces of hair on my forearms.
Where do I go from here; I'm currently "re-sterilizing" a PC full of jars I never got around to actually opening and innoculating. Is this a no-no? Hell, I thought I had everything down, then everything changed when the fire nation attacked..
-------------------- I Followed Frank's Footsteps This guy is a hero. Bod’s system saved my life as well.. if these guys can’t get you where you need to be, you’re in the wrong hobby. Rate me cause I'm a nice guy? Not all who wander are lost, but I sure as fuck am
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: TripBalls]
#23646516 - 09/15/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re pcing works. Screw with water content but still works. Ill be honest the slurry is the same risk as grain to grain. I've only recently got into it but i beleive if you can master the blender li teks then its perfect. I have horrible hand correctional skills . i say if you got 50 bucks to spend into new projects then slurrys are for you. It all contams or colonised myc in 4 days either way. I did six bacths of the slurry and two bacths died the most awesome contams withen days The other four bacths produced me 6 trays and 32 tubs. Yeilds about the same as you. Another big thing with higher yields is the new bottle teks that pasty has. There cool because you can mainly use straw and cheap flours or grains mixed togther like cakes . pced like grains.
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: tump]
#23646540 - 09/15/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about agar? Where would you rank that on the list of riskies?
And if nothing else, is Hawkseye (mushrooms.com) still work messing with? It could go back to the syringes, even.. I need more quick and consistent results (don't we all)
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: TripBalls]
#23646579 - 09/15/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agar is key to clean culture making. I don't do very well for the amount of time spend doing it. But its is important like anything else its a skill. Mushroom.com is still good for prints i guess but syringes i go to spore depot. 10 spores syringes for 60 bucks is awesome. Ill probaby get a warning for that for sourcing. Trick with them is to delute then form 1 to 6. Its easy its cheap and if done right cuts down the contams rate amount the 60 jars.
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Re: Long time, no see, Shroomery... What's hype nowadays? I need critique! [Re: tump]
#23646597 - 09/15/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TripBalls said: What about agar? Where would you rank that on the list of riskies?
And if nothing else, is Hawkseye (mushrooms.com) still work messing with? It could go back to the syringes, even.. I need more quick and consistent results (don't we all)
Agar is as easy as making jello. And I would consider a necessity if you would like consistent success.
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tump said: Agar is key to clean culture making. I don't do very well for the amount of time spend doing it. But its is important like anything else its a skill. Mushroom.com is still good for prints i guess but syringes i go to spore depot. 10 spores syringes for 60 bucks is awesome. Ill probaby get a warning for that for sourcing. Trick with them is to delute then form 1 to 6. Its easy its cheap and if done right cuts down the contams rate amount the 60 jars.
And just curious why you would need more than one syringe if using agar???
Edited by twistedty (09/15/16 05:13 AM)
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