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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23644864 - 09/14/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

PRE existing condition = cause of bad trips, that or set and setting / substance quality


But anyway, to each their own :shrug:


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23644872 - 09/14/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's only one way to find out, smoke and find out what it is exactly that is causing this anxiety. For me it's usually caused by previous experiences, I guess I've got like mild ptsd or sumshit.. Damn cops and just bad people in general fucked up my high..


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23644881 - 09/14/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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zZZz said:[Damn cops and just bad people in general fucked up my high..





Set and setting right there


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: desant]
    #23644922 - 09/14/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea man. Best to smoke in the comfort of ur own home. when I first started smoking many years ago the high was almost euphoric, me and my friend would walk to the nearest burger joint and everything was always find and dandy. Then I started smoking with strange people, bad people, which lead to several confrontations with police, which pretty much fucked my mental up for almost a decade..


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 2
    #23644924 - 09/14/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
Which do you prefer?

I prefer kratom :kratomtee:




Fucking blasphemer

:pope:

Weed of course

Kratom tastes and feels gross, its addicting with withdrawals, and its expensive as fuck


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: desant]
    #23644927 - 09/14/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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desant said:
PRE existing condition = cause of bad trips, that or set and setting / substance quality


But anyway, to each their own :shrug:




How does quality of substance cause bad trips? That thing where "lsd degrades into things that cause bad trips" is fake i think.

Also zZZz, its not always a past experience or something, not even close to always. psychedelics can cause bad trips simpley because they cause muscle tension, i find i always get the tense body load and the comeup anxiety at the same time. Or set and setring like someone mentioned

Its not always "brother your spirit is wounded and thats why you had a bad trip brother. Just be honest with god and yourself and feel the eternal love of the universe brother."

Sometimes when taking substances that alter brain chemistry you freak out. The drugs cause the same physical responce that occurs when you are in danger to occur when you are just high or tripping.

I dont need to smoke and go on an inward journey brother to find out what pains my soul brother.


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23644928 - 09/14/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Do u compare apples and oranges? Why compare the two?



I do. Oranges are the shit.




Fuck yeah


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23644929 - 09/14/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is a lot cheaper than weed, at least down here in the dirty south.


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23644932 - 09/14/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
Which do you prefer?

I prefer kratom :kratomtee:




Fucking blasphemer

:pope:

Weed of course

Kratom tastes and feels gross, its addicting with withdrawals, and its expensive as fuck



I pay 600$ canadian for a qp of weed.

Kratom is like 160$ canadian for a ki if you buy only cheap strains.

Kratom is less expensive for me. You are probably talking about corner store/head shop kratom.


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23644945 - 09/14/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:

Its not always "brother your spirit is wounded and thats why you had a bad trip brother. Just be honest with god and yourself and feel the eternal love of the universe brother




Actually that is EXACTLY what it is. The problem lies as deep as the ocean..


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23644948 - 09/14/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Kratom is a lot cheaper than weed, at least down here in the dirty south.



I second this notion.  Weed used to be my go to, but now a days I like low doses of kratom on thew daily because it helps me get shit done like a mother fucker at work and at home...


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23644949 - 09/14/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, alright, maybe the guys I knew doing Kratom were just getting jipped


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23644953 - 09/14/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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zZZz said:
Quote:

BANANA.MAN said:

Its not always "brother your spirit is wounded and thats why you had a bad trip brother. Just be honest with god and yourself and feel the eternal love of the universe brother




Actually that is EXACTLY what it is. The problem lies as deep as the ocean..




Basically I agree that there's something behind the bad trip, though I wouldn't say its necessarily spiritual, or that there's always much one can do about it other than clench their buttcheeks and hangon.


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23644975 - 09/14/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Clenching your muscles is the worst thing you can do during a bad trip besides calling an ambulence.

You want to get your body OUT of flight or fight mode by relaxing your muscles and slowing your breathing/heart rate


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23644978 - 09/14/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Clench those buttcheeks


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23644985 - 09/14/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No don't be a tight ass


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23644986 - 09/14/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Some people should really stay away from drugs :facepalm:


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: desant] * 1
    #23644992 - 09/14/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People who can't spot a joke?
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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: zZZz]
    #23645006 - 09/14/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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zZZz said:
No don't be a tight ass




If you don't clench the transexuals might get in


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Re: Weed or Kratom [Re: desant]
    #23645009 - 09/14/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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desant said:
PRE existing condition = cause of bad trips, that or set and setting / substance quality


But anyway, to each their own :shrug:



I used to enjoy weed, then I overdosed on 25i-nBOME, after that weed made me feel like I was having a heart attack after one hit


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