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Please help with what went wrong
    #23644328 - 09/14/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I need help understanding what could've happened please.

24 days ago I inoculated 11 PF jars all made at the same time w one batch of brf/verm/gypsum according to Evilmushrooms tek. 6 mexi-cub and 5 oysters.

Lost 1 cube to trich.

All oyster jars are about bt 98-100% colonized.

Of the 5 remaining cubes (20 injection sites) only 1 started growing from 1 injection site. Its about 15%colonized now.

I did have to add a little extra verm to get moisture correct and did not compensate w extra BRF .

Also I was slightly heavy thumbed and went 9cc's over 6 jars but none look "wet"

Please help me understand how the oysters grew and cubes didn't before I try again


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644344 - 09/14/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644353 - 09/14/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What do you mean added more verm to get moisture correct how hard is 1 brf 2 verm 1 water as long as you use the same container the ratios will be correct, gypsum is unnecessary I've never used it and had great results but not the issue here.
The compressed nature of the jar will defo slow thing down possibly to a stall.


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23644360 - 09/14/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644366 - 09/14/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The compressed nature of the jar will defo slow thing down possibly to a stall.



How do you know the jars have "a compressed nature"? If he posted a pic of tall half pints I'd say sure but he hasn't said anything regarding tall or wide jars, nor do we have pics.

I just don't see what info he's given to imply he's got compression issues :shrug:



Whoops read wrong thought he said he heavily thumbed the cakes not the syringe


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23644379 - 09/14/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644392 - 09/14/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)




2nd pic was only starting spot for cube. Its bigger now


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644407 - 09/14/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644419 - 09/14/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks weird dry in parts and wet in others


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644423 - 09/14/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can't find where I saw add a lil gypsum now. I thought it was evilmushroom but I don't see it now. Either way it wasn't much. Ended up 4.5-5cups verm/2cups water/2cups brf/ 2tsp gypsum


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23644431 - 09/14/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644434 - 09/14/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks weird dry in parts and wet in others



Ya they just don't look on point to me. OP, you should stick with the recipe exactly next time. When you're putting in spores, as soon as you see a drop or two come out of the syringe, stop. As soon as I see any sign of moisture in the mix at the tip of my syringe, I stop and move on to the next hole. You should be able to knock up a whole jar with 1/4 cc



1/4cc per hole:wink:


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23644443 - 09/14/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644471 - 09/14/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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amidogen said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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amidogen said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
Looks weird dry in parts and wet in others



Ya they just don't look on point to me. OP, you should stick with the recipe exactly next time. When you're putting in spores, as soon as you see a drop or two come out of the syringe, stop. As soon as I see any sign of moisture in the mix at the tip of my syringe, I stop and move on to the next hole. You should be able to knock up a whole jar with 1/4 cc



1/4cc per hole;)



No, 1/4 cc per jar. A single drop of solution will have thousands of spores. The less spore solution per hole you use, the less water you're soaking the sub with, the less bacteria you're introducing with the spores. 1 cc/jar used to be the old standard, I know, but if you read around, TCs and other reputable cultivators are recommending using a bare minimum of MS solution when knocking up jars. Like I said earlier, I've knocked up 7 jars using 2 cc's total to do all 7.



Never harmed me but thanks for the update


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644472 - 09/14/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes SAB. Yes PC. 70min at 15psi. Cooled about 12 hours before opening. Went directly in SAB and inoculated instantly. As far as sticking to the tek. The gypsum thing is definitely in a TC tek. I just can't find it right now at work. I'll look later and see who said it


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644490 - 09/14/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644502 - 09/14/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Other than wasting tho could the use of too much spore solution have nullified growth all together?


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644512 - 09/14/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt it


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644525 - 09/14/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23644531 - 09/14/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks weird dry in parts and wet in others



The dry your seeing is the dry verm layer I think. Some came down when needle Went through. The brf was pretty consistent when I loaded them


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644585 - 09/14/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A damn good theory! Honestly I work in a surgical facility and have access to lots of needles and practice in sterile technique so to go an extra mile I used a fresh needle on every jar to avoid leaving the SAB once I started.

As for agar, I have all the stuff ready to go. I wanted to start PF just to get some experience and read a lil more.


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644597 - 09/14/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Plus I feel like of I can't grow cubes on a brf cake I'm not ready to graduate to agar


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644618 - 09/14/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for your helps guys. I really appreciate the feedback. I'll give it a while longer and try again once more maybe before moving to agar :thumbup:


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644627 - 09/14/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644639 - 09/14/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yep. Detached and applied fresh sterile needle for every jar inside the box....

Thanx for the links, I'll definitely check them out. There's so much shit here its hard for me to find the good/useful/updated stuff


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644667 - 09/14/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: amidogen]
    #23644782 - 09/14/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

God damned shroomery! That link is awesome! I got caught up reading up on his agar post and forgot all about working. This hobby is fucking crack


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Re: Please help with what went wrong [Re: Jaybob]
    #23644812 - 09/14/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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