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Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase * 1
    #23643999 - 09/14/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.rt.com/usa/359242-marijuana-breathalyzer-california-police/

Police in the US have gotten their hands on a marijuana breathalyzer and drivers in California were among the first to be tested –with nationwide distribution planned for next year.
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As part of an initial field test, several erratic drivers were pulled over and asked to voluntarily blow into the breathalyzer. Two of the drivers who took part in the test admitted to smoking marijuana in the previous 30 minutes, and delivered a positive reading on the handheld device.

Other drivers who confessed to smoking pot within the previous two to three hours also tested positive – none of whom were arrested, although those who tested positive were not allowed to continue driving.



One driver was arrested during the testing, however, but for being under the influence of alcohol.

The “groundbreaking” device can detect THC (the main ingredient in pot) on a person’s breath when they have eaten food like gummy bears or brownies, as well as alcohol.

Following some more tests to validate the technology’s results, Hound Labs hopes to widely distribute the device to law enforcement in the first half of next year.

Until now, police had to rely on an imperfect system of testing saliva, urine and blood samples to measure marijuana in the system, which can show the presence of the drug days after the user is actually under the influence.

Chief of Police in Lompoc, California, Patrick Walsh, has already thrown his support behind the innovative device which he plans on issuing to at least six of his departments over the next six months.

“We are looking for the least invasive way to obtain information that indicates impairment, which is why we are participating in roadside tests,” said Walsh in the company's press release.

“We don't want to arrest people who are not impaired, and yet we don't want marijuana users driving if they are high from recent use," he added.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: travelleler] * 3
    #23644001 - 09/14/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The real sad thing that is happening here is that we are allowing police to tell us weather we are a threat to public safety. 



basically we are begging the govt to tell us how to medicate.  Which, in case you hadn't noticed, they only like the power because it turns a profit.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: travelleler] * 3
    #23644070 - 09/14/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This could be a good thing.  I think these breathe tests actually measure active thc and not metabolites.  In Ohio you are impaired at 15ng per ml of metabolite, not even thc but the long lasting metabolite.  It can be three weeks since you stopped smoking and it's a duo/ovi.  My felony probation piss cups had a higher threshold for pass/fail of 50ng/ml.

Metabolites should not be considered intoxication unless they are active metabolites.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23644116 - 09/14/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

they are really pushing it lately. If I ever get a DUI for being stoned I'm going to be fucking livid

I could almost say that I've been high every time I've ever driven. I was sober while I was learning though


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23644124 - 09/14/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How about get a test for prescription pills or those irritated road ragere that haven't had a cup of coffee and a cigarette in the last two hours instead. Has there not been a multitude of studies that have fairly definitively shown the lack of danger cannabis smokers pose as drivers?


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: BirdsIView] * 1
    #23644259 - 09/14/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

just like the alcohol breath test, it will easily thrown out, unless there is obvious imparement.  just challenge it in court.  actually the bac test would probably be easier to challenge as ther are doezens of things proven to cause a false positive for alcohold


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: trscstghst] * 1
    #23644396 - 09/14/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

this isn't any different then their field testing waving fingers from one side of your face to the other and saying your eyes didn't follow.

curious if it is actually accurate.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #23644598 - 09/14/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

can't breathalyse someone for stupidity or fatigue.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Visionary Tools] * 1
    #23644715 - 09/14/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

meanwhile peanut brain gets to smoke his ciggerette while driving, speeding and listening to disney music


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23644831 - 09/14/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How about not testing people when they are already driving ...

We should have a test in place to determine who can drive stoned and who can't before people get behind the wheel.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23645131 - 09/14/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I did a test recently where I got really fucking stoned and played euro truck simulator. Was driving for 40 minutes, reversed with a trailer and not a single roadside incident nor collision. I was going about half the speed you could in towns but I didn't feel safer going faster.

What I learned from this is when high I might not want to drive but I could do it. Wait a few hours and I'm good to go.


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Visionary Tools] * 1
    #23645412 - 09/14/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the only danger is over tired ness which can be dangerous


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23645445 - 09/14/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Morel Guy said:
This could be a good thing.  I think these breathe tests actually measure active thc and not metabolites.  In Ohio you are impaired at 15ng per ml of metabolite, not even thc but the long lasting metabolite.  It can be three weeks since you stopped smoking and it's a duo/ovi.  My felony probation piss cups had a higher threshold for pass/fail of 50ng/ml.

Metabolites should not be considered intoxication unless they are active metabolites.




This was my first thought as well


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Re: Marijuana Beathalyzer To be Issued to California Cops, now in testing phase [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23645845 - 09/14/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Uhhhh what's a "Beathalyzer", Beavis?


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