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What is this in my jar?
    #23643543 - 09/14/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



This jar is 6 weeks old. This jar was rye grain inoculated with a multispore syringe of PE (no agar, no isolating, no cleaning up). Clearly there's more in this jar than I bargained for. What is that spikey stuff? Doesn't smell exactly like pure mushrooms either, so... what is this? Hericium came to mind but would that be this? They also look like hyphal knots, no? But these look different than normal cubensis mycelium.


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: AK1000]
    #23643619 - 09/14/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think you got an oyster syringe, I saw the other jar you posted a picture of and it looked like old oyster myc.


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23643671 - 09/14/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like its trying to fruit in the jar. But it does look like pe. He is right looks like osters or loins mane .


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: tump]
    #23643854 - 09/14/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I'd have to agree on that too. Not a cube


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: tump]
    #23643956 - 09/14/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like its trying to fruit in the jar. But it does look like pe. He is right looks like osters or loins mane .




Hmm, I looked up Oyster mycelium/pins and it looks just like it. Reminded me of Lion's mane too, but you said it does look like PE, too? Which part? The white mycelium?  Ugh... now Im wondering if there's any PE in my jars or am I only growing oysters for the past fucking month!?!?!? God damn it.


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: AK1000]
    #23643970 - 09/14/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you'll know its oysters if it has a kinda sweet anise/licorice smell.

i think the way its crawling up the wall (meaning, it's not crawling that much) looks more like lions mane, oysters crawl pretty high.

if the jar looked like regular white mycelium as it was colonizing, its not LM. you will barely see LM mycelium till its 100%.


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23643974 - 09/14/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Does the white mycelium in the middle/left look like cubensis-mycelium or does that too, look like how oyster mushrooms grow in the beginning? I'm just wondering how fucked I am at this point. Didn't think I'd be growing fucking oysters, though I love to eat them too. Just mildly irritated at this point for all the days and weeks I've spent on this project.


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23643985 - 09/14/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

At first glance it looks like lion's mane.....but like BL said lion's mane myc is hard to see until it’s trying to fruit.
.very whispy....I've only seen it on agar..not on a sub


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: AK1000]
    #23643997 - 09/14/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the white growth to middle left looks like I dunno what. it's not hugging the grains, so I don't think it looks like healthy cubes.

maybe its lions mane, oysters, cubes, and a super bug:blush:


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23644002 - 09/14/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23643788

^^this dude had similar growth on a bulk sub…slightly Lions mane-ish

when u go spores>grain, things can get weird.  add to that a short PC cycle and/or improper grain prep, and things could get out of pocket quick


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23644006 - 09/14/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23644018 - 09/14/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23643788

^^this dude had similar growth on a bulk sub…slightly Lions mane-ish

when u go spores>grain, things can get weird.  add to that a short PC cycle and/or improper grain prep, and things could get out of pocket quick




Yea, I'm not a fan of spores to grain. But now I'm wondering... cause I went from grain to agar.... and now agar to grain... if I just grew a bunch of oysters on my agar :frown: Do oysters grow on agar and look exactly the same as cubes?


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: AK1000]
    #23644027 - 09/14/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

they look different on plates, especially when its 50% or more.

oysters are way faster too.  if ur plate is done in 7-8 days (and puffs up around edges quickly), thats oyster.  if its 10-14 days (and relatively flat), probably not.

u could probably argue that cubes with bacteria meshed in look like oysters sometimes though


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23644126 - 09/14/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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they look different on plates, especially when its 50% or more.

oysters are way faster too.  if ur plate is done in 7-8 days (and puffs up around edges quickly), thats oyster.  if its 10-14 days (and relatively flat), probably not.

u could probably argue that cubes with bacteria meshed in look like oysters sometimes though




Doesn't the flatness depend on the depth/amount of the agar poured though? (Less agar, it will just spread faster toward the edges and look flat, no?)  God damn it, I don't know what to think anymore. I thought cubes looked puffy as well normally. Any pics of oyster on agar I could look at for sanity?


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: AK1000]
    #23644140 - 09/14/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your thinking of how much nutrients are in the agar, not how deep the agar is poured.

Lower nutrients make the myc stretch and go rhizo...higher notes make the myc puffy or tomentose


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23644189 - 09/14/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its more recipe dependent than depth dependent like Pete said.

I actually have no oyster plate pics:(

Cubes can look puffy, especially at first with MS

Whencubes hit the edge of a plate, they will crawl up but it will be hugging the wall.  When oysters hit edge of plate, it will be a puffy kind of crawl/growth if that makes sense


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23644193 - 09/14/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Smell ur scalpel after a transfer.  That will be a dead giveaway


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Re: What is this in my jar? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23644435 - 09/14/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Smell ur scalpel after a transfer.  That will be a dead giveaway




What should it smell like? Or not smell like?


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