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Offlineyourboybob
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Kratom overdose?
    #23642459 - 09/13/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I follow a rehab center that I attended several months ago on facebook and they posted this article about a supposed kratom overdose. Is this possible and if so how did it happen?

http://newliferetreat.org/success-stories/my-experience-with-kratom/

"The DEA’s recent classification of Kratom as a Schedule 1 narcotic met with complaints and protests from those who claim Kratom is a safe and natural alternative to opiates. I applaud the DEA’s decision, as from my personal experience, this idea that Kratom is  safe is very false.

About four months ago, my brother stopped at a convenience store, not knowing that on that particular day, his life would change forever. At that time, he had completed a drug treatment program and was sober for a bit of time. He was stopping to get an energy shot from the store on his way to work. The guy behind the counter told him he should try a new energy shot that was different from a 5 hour energy because it makes you feel good. My brother gave it a try despite the fact it cost a little more than five hour energy. Shortly after drinking it, he knew something wasn’t right.  It gave him energy and a good opiate like feeling. He googled it to make sure it was safe and wouldn’t cause him to fail a drug test.  He discovered it was all natural and wouldn’t read on a drug test, so he figured it was safe as well.
He found himself buying more and more of these “energy shots”, which were Kratom. He felt it wasn’t right because he had the feeling of being high, but he kept drinking them anyway. He started with one in the morning.  Then he added one at night.  It got to the point he was drinking them all throughout the day. He asked our mother to buy him some and showed her a picture of the bottle assuring her it was an energy shot.  She questioned it and he countered by pointing out it was sold out in the open on the countertop at a local gas station.  This didn’t raise any suspicion with her. When has a gas station sold something illegal? They don’t, so kratom must be ok right?
This past Mother’s Day 2016, I saw my brother at my mother’s house.  He appeared to others as energetic, happy and productive. Despite that, my first thought was he must be getting high again.  Since it was Mother’s Day, I did not think it was the time or the place to confront him.  This was a day for my mom and not for he or I to ruin it with drama.  Little did I know the drama was about to begin.
The very next day, I was on my way back from an ultrasound.  I was about 35 weeks pregnant with my youngest son and I received a phone call saying my brother was found sitting Indian style slouched over, not breathing and his girlfriend called 911. My mother told me this was obviously an overdose but on what she wasn’t sure. I rushed to the hospital hoping for the best but prepared for the worse.
The drug screen wasn’t back and my brother had only woken up one time to say he couldn’t feel his legs and was knocked back out. He was very unstable so they transported him to another hospital to put him in a medically induced coma on life support. Not knowing if I would ever get to talk to my brother again, I wanted answers.  The drug screen came back with a low level of benzo and amphetamines, baffling the doctor as to how this happened.
About a week went by and they woke my brother up. His kidneys were not working and his leg was swollen. To keep from amputating it and to relieve pressure,  they had to cut it open down both sides. When my brother was able to communicate, he told the doctor he had been drinking kratom 2-3 times per day for 3 months. This was such a new thing the doctors didn’t know what to think, they said there isn’t much research on it but this had to be the cause for his overdose and condition.
My brother’s body had given up and started to shut down one organ at a time.  The doctors had to bring him back to life multiple times. Once he did wake up, we had no idea if he would be able to walk again or if his kidney function would come back. I talked  to him one time and then the next day I went into labor, a month early with my son.
After my own stay at the hospital and getting back home, a month had passed and my brother had a long road to recovery. His kidneys started to function again but he was wheel chair bound coming home. Four months have passed now and he is still struggling. His muscles had atrophied from him being in the same position unconscious for so long. He had to get the atrophied muscles removed from his leg so walking is a challenge. When he starts to walk, he ends up with an infection due to poor circulation and some type of injury, so he ends up right back in the wheel chair.
Seeing articles online about how Kratom isn’t bad and that it is all natural, so therefore “safe” makes me angry as I know that is not true.  The reality of what happens to some people is not what is put forth. Not many people go online to tell how they overdosed on Kratom and lost everything in life.  My brother has no job, no money, can’t walk and is suffering just to complete simple daily tasks. You don’t hear about any of this but in reality this is Kratom, this is what it’s capable of."


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: yourboybob] * 1
    #23642570 - 09/13/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Surely bull shit.  Never heard of a medical team outing a drug overdose victim into a drug induced coma.  Never heard of a kratom overdose other than vomiting.  I have taken 40'grams kratom and it's simply a waste of kratom.


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: yourboybob]
    #23642634 - 09/13/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:
It was probably all of the other shit they put in those kratom shots that did it.

Caffeine different plant extracts ect... far from JUST kratom.


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23642702 - 09/13/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Bullshit LOL


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: Mr. Magic] * 1
    #23642744 - 09/13/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What are these "kratom shots"? Was kratom the only ingredient? Kratom isn't a liquid, so it must have been extracted somehow? What was used to extract it? I have never heard of a kratom overdose. Why did the test say positive for benzo and amphetamine? Kratom does not test positive for either of those.

what about all the people who die from alcohol? If someone posted a story about how they got sick from drinking alcohol daily, would that mean we should ban alcohol?

Kratom is so popular right now, that if it caused this type of reaction we'd have more reports. On the contrary, reports of problems from kratom use are very rare. Ive read of some people having liver problems, which suggests that perhaps some people lack an enzyme to process kratom or something. But outside of those reports, kratom's safety record is remarkably good.

The thing I hate abotu stories like this, is that a substance should not be banned based on a single, worst case scenario secondhand report where the details and information isn't even clear. If we based our legislative decisions on worst case scenarios just about everyhing would be banned including, caffeine, tobacco, and many unhealthy food products and household chemicals.


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23642871 - 09/13/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yourboybob said:
At that time, he had completed a drug treatment program and was sober for a bit of time.




My question to that is what was he in treatment for, and what does "sober for a bit of time" actually mean in that sentence? It sounds like a contradiction, like he was sober then stopped being such before he started drinking those drinks.

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Peyote Road said:
Why did the test say positive for benzo and amphetamine? Kratom does not test positive for either of those.




I wont go as far as calling bs on the story itself, but blaming it on Kratom shouldn't be the first thought when your testing positive for other stuff even at a low amount. I understand some meds have that stuff in them so testing positive will happen, but depending on the underline cause of treatment I don't think they would give pills to someone fresh out of treatment, specially if they went in for that type of thing to begin with.

I'm sorry for what your family has gone through and im not going to point fingers and assume something I dont know, but I truely believe there's some missing parts to this story and Kratom is an easy thing to point a finger at when the truth doesnt wanna be said.


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: ParallelTimeStamp]
    #23642894 - 09/13/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did anyone see my comment it got deleted haha its definitely bullshit :rolleyes:

I didnt say anything hateful and didnt call bullshit so no reason that they should delete it. Lol


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23642913 - 09/13/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Mr Magic, I personally didnt see your comment myself. Id ask what it was but if they deleted it then I wont dare ask you to test it and say it again lol.


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23642951 - 09/13/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr. Magic said:
Did anyone see my comment it got deleted haha its definitely bullshit :rolleyes:

I didnt say anything hateful and didnt call bullshit so no reason that they should delete it. Lol



Didnt even see it lol


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: Mr. Magic] * 1
    #23642982 - 09/13/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr. Magic said:
Did anyone see my comment it got deleted haha its definitely bullshit :rolleyes:

I didnt say anything hateful and didnt call bullshit so no reason that they should delete it. Lol




lol you commented on facebook or what?

just to clarify, i do not agree with this article at all and think that it is grossly misinformed, just wanted the shroomerys opinions


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Re: Kratom overdose? [Re: yourboybob]
    #23643126 - 09/13/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Damn they were quick about getting that little truth serum out then huh? Lol

I commented on the bottom of the article itself and it said "awaiting moderation", not even 30min later and it was gone.


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