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Asante
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The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing 3
#23640552 - 09/13/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I write this mostly for the people still struggling with the reality level of shamanism and the paranormal. Most people have that phase and many live their entire lives in it, the belief that there is no such thing as Spirit(s) or the paranormal. As a wise friend put it in 8 words:
"Trusting Spirit - really trusting Spirit - is a biggy"
This is exactly why science fails for the most part to register "paranormal" phenomena.
There are TWO realities (quantum physics is uncovering this), the one reality is the one where "Seeing is believing". The empirical reality scientific proof hinges on. But! There is another reality, or rather another side to reality, and that is "Believing is seeing".
THIS is the realm of Spirit and of the Paranormal. You invest to manifest. You have to believe, have faith in some things in order for them to manifest. Your paying in silver is that you believe without any proof in "the supernatural" and as you do, it shows itself and, a propos, proves itself after the fact, unprompted.
The supernatural world is reactive and sentient. It is like befriending a squirrel. Come at it with brouhaha, demands of proof and skepticism and its nowhere to be found. But if you adopt a quiet demeanor, collect some acorns, crack them, patiently wait for a squirrel, feed it some and so forth, before you know it theres squirrels all around it and later even in your lap.
Thats the missing piece. You got to invest BLIND FAITH, which means nothing but believing without any proof, or Spirit, and spirits, forever evades you. It plays tricks with you, authentically makes your pencil disappear fora moment and whatnot to bait you to investigate, just like we can bait it, but if you never consider it it wont show itself. Your precious proof will come AFTER you believe, after a genuine leap of faith. You have to cast yourself headfirst into the flames without any reservation, and they will be cool.
Spirit(s) will constantly test your faith and up the ante but what you get in return will constantly increase also. And there will be proof, infidels who read this, there will be proof in abundance once you for a while have trusted Spirit. Nope, not the makebelief kind. Genuine magic or to put it in science terms: quantum physical phenomena on a macro level.
Just. Have. Faith.
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: Asante]
#23644211 - 09/14/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Robert Plant - I Believe
'Tears, tears at the water's edge Hey little sister, there is laughter instead Tears for the teacher, from the eyes, from the soul This restless spirit takes a long way back home Like the wind, you are free Just a whisper - I hear you, so talk to me
Oh, I believe, eye to eye Say brother, sisters, see your brothers in the sky Neighbour, neighbour, don't be so cold It's only glory from the story I'm told
I believe, eye to eye Say brothers, sister, see your brothers in the sky Neighbour, neighbour, don't be so cold It's so much glory from the story untold
Big fire, on top of the hill A hopeless gesture, and last farewell Tears from your mother, from the pits of her soul Look at your father, see his blood run cold Like the wind, you are free Just a whisper - I hear you, so talk to me'
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: Halayudha]
#23644672 - 09/14/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: Halayudha] 1
#23644738 - 09/14/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So few replies, yet such wisdom. 
The blind man asks 'Prove what you see', rather than 'Show me how to see' and thus, remains blind.
Only a leap of faith takes us to the other side of the chasm.
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: Asante]
#23644759 - 09/14/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: deff] 2
#23644784 - 09/14/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really like this post, Asante.
In my experience, seeing almost always comes after believing. Insert the new belief, plant the seed, wait a minute, an hour, what have you, and see what the universe manifests!
Lovely
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: deff] 1
#23644885 - 09/14/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." Roald Dahl
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: mt cleverest] 1
#23646095 - 09/14/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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imagination = magickal reality manifold computer
you = the operator
??? = the source of energy
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Asante
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: mt cleverest]
#23646817 - 09/15/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
mt cleverest said:
"Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." Roald Dahl
Exactly this.
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Re: The missing Magical piece: sometimes Believing is Seeing [Re: Asante] 1
#23649831 - 09/16/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's the duality. Seeing is believing, but also believing is seeing. 
You can't believe without seeing, and you can't see without believing
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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