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OfflineArborlon
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Sab or no sab...
    #23639005 - 09/12/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I went shopping today and got everything i needed for my first grow. I only bought one clear tote tho. My question is should I use it for a sab or a sgfc? I have been doing some research and some people say sabs aren't needed. I just want to know what people have experinced during grows with out using a sab. I'm going to be doing brf cakes, and fruiting them in a sgfc.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Arborlon]
    #23639015 - 09/12/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Unless youve got a flowhood or still air room (which will still contam like crazy) you dont need one....

But yes YOU want one !


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: spore-ty]
    #23639052 - 09/12/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You should get another tote :thumbup:


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: nobody83]
    #23639074 - 09/12/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'll go buy another clear tote for a fc when my substrate gets to 100% colonized.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: nobody83]
    #23639079 - 09/12/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's definitely advisable, but if you can do your stuff quickly in a clean area with as little moving air as possible, success is possible. Spray disinfectant in the air, then be sure to flame sterilize needles before each inoculation, while also wiping injection ports with isopropyl immediately beforehand. It has worked for me. -Tim


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Arborlon]
    #23639082 - 09/12/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: You'll have as much as a month to wait, so may as well make the SAB.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: nobody83]
    #23639097 - 09/12/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whatshesaid:

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You should get another tote :thumbup:




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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: rjstim]
    #23639202 - 09/12/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's definitely advisable, but if you can do your stuff quickly in a clean area with as little moving air as possible, success is possible. Spray disinfectant in the air, then be sure to flame sterilize needles before each inoculation, while also wiping injection ports with isopropyl immediately beforehand. It has worked for me. -Tim




... No.  Doesn't matter if it "worked" for you.  The chances of success are low as hell.  This person is looking to succeed at something.  Presumably with a failure rate lower than 60%.  When someone is looking to succeed, you don't tell them to go ahead and do the bare minimum.  You'll quickly learn that things like that don't fly here.  Bad ideas get shot down in favor of better ones.  If there are already good suggestions in a thread, the suggestion to do worse than that is less than desired.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Inocuole]
    #23639221 - 09/12/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I totally get what you're saying, but I really wouldn't take what I said as "advice". It was more like a theoretical possibility thing with a disclaimer.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: rjstim]
    #23639300 - 09/12/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wait... What?  Is this a debate?  SAB!  Like...Always!


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Mushierage]
    #23639446 - 09/12/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

SAB so you have something worth putting into a mono tub.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: rjstim]
    #23639492 - 09/12/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is this actually a question?
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It's definitely advisable, but if you can do your stuff quickly in a clean area with as little moving air as possible, success is possible. Spray disinfectant in the air, then be sure to flame sterilize needles before each inoculation, while also wiping injection ports with isopropyl immediately beforehand. It has worked for me. -Tim



Is this actually a response?

Am I living in a twilight zone today or something? Holy fuck..


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Mad Season]
    #23639500 - 09/12/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah there was definitely an influx of not thinking today.  I don't know wtf is going on.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Mad Season]
    #23639501 - 09/12/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Use your current box to make a SAB and then once the cakes are almost done, get a new box for a SGFC :smile:


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23639553 - 09/12/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Always SAB... my success has greatly increased since using one.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: nobody83]
    #23639636 - 09/12/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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rjstim said:
It's definitely advisable, but if you can do your stuff quickly in a clean area with as little moving air as possible, success is possible. Spray disinfectant in the air, then be sure to flame sterilize needles before each inoculation, while also wiping injection ports with isopropyl immediately beforehand. It has worked for me. -Tim



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You should get another tote :thumbup:




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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: nobody83]
    #23640146 - 09/12/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all your input, I will use current tote for a sab, and buy a new tote for a fc. Will the sab in rr's videos on mushroomvideos.com be sufficient enough? I have looked at a few on here and they seem to be way more sophisticated than the one in rr's video, all he has is a tote with two arm holes.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Arborlon]
    #23640190 - 09/12/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All you need is a tote with two armholes. Paying attention to the details of clean procedure will get you a lot farther than a "fancy" sab.  Don't wave your hands over open containers in the sab. Don't flame in the sab.  In fact, here -

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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: jesustripped]
    #23640257 - 09/12/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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All you need is a tote with two armholes. Paying attention to the details of clean procedure will get you a lot farther than a "fancy" sab. 




i agree with the first part but NO SAB is 'fancy' look how ghetto mine is..

a 'fancy' SAB quickly turns into a glovebox.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: mushboy]
    #23640366 - 09/13/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's why I put it in quotes lol. I thought about prefacing fancy with "for lack of a better word."

I remember seeing a picture of yours before and it really cracked me up!  Those holes are fuckin priceless. I assume your doing your transfers with that steak knife too  :grin:


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: mushboy]
    #23640375 - 09/13/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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All you need is a tote with two armholes. Paying attention to the details of clean procedure will get you a lot farther than a "fancy" sab. 




i agree with the first part but NO SAB is 'fancy' look how ghetto mine is..

a 'fancy' SAB quickly turns into a glovebox.




Is that the same knife you used to hack the holes?  You're right, it ain't purty, looks like it works though.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: KenInVic]
    #23640382 - 09/13/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure he melted the holes, but with a knife or something. I tried to hack holes in my first sab.  Nope.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Arborlon]
    #23640463 - 09/13/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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So I went shopping today and got everything i needed for my first grow. I only bought one clear tote tho. My question is should I use it for a sab or a sgfc? I have been doing some research and some people say sabs aren't needed. I just want to know what people have experinced during grows with out using a sab. I'm going to be doing brf cakes, and fruiting them in a sgfc.




If the tote is larger than 100qt then use it as a SAB. If not, use it for the sgfc and then buy a tote that is >100qt and then make a SAB out of it.


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: herrenvolk]
    #23640490 - 09/13/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i upgraded the steak knife to curved nail clippers. works like a champ.
the hole on the left was ok... idk wtf i was doing with the right:mushroom2:


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Re: Sab or no sab... [Re: Arborlon]
    #23640526 - 09/13/16 02:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sab it! dont drab it.


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