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Auroville, experimental money free township in India * 1
    #23638622 - 09/12/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just found out about this magical place: Auroville Wiki

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Auroville (City of Dawn) is an experimental township in Viluppuram district mostly in the state of Tamil Nadu, India with some parts in the Union Territory of Puducherry in South India.[1] It was founded in 1968 by Mirra Alfassa (known as "the Mother") and designed by architect Roger Anger.[2][3][4] As stated in Alfassa's first public message in 1965, she states that, Auroville is meant to be a universal town where men and women of all countries are able to live in peace and progressive harmony, above all creeds, all politics and all nationalities. The purpose of Auroville is to realize human unity.




Here is their charter:

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  1 Auroville belongs to nobody in particular. Auroville belongs to humanity as a whole. But to live in Auroville, one must be the willing servitor of the Divine Consciousness.
  2 Auroville will be the place of an unending education, of constant progress, and a youth that never ages.
  3 Auroville wants to be the bridge between the past and the future. Taking advantage of all discoveries from without and from within, Auroville will boldly spring towards future realisations.
  4 Auroville will be a site of material and spiritual researches for a living embodiment of an actual Human Unity.





I think I just found my new #1 re location choice... :strokebeard:


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23638624 - 09/12/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Heard it's a haven for paedos.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23638633 - 09/12/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Really? Apparently it only has a population of less then 3,000 people. Aren't india and many asian countries in general known for their pedos and sex trafficking?


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23638641 - 09/12/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In May 2008, the BBC produced a 10-minute Newsnight film about Auroville, which was aired on BBC Two.[30] A short version was aired on Radio 4's "From Our Own Correspondent". It also appeared on BBC On-line.[31] The reports contrasted the idealism of its founders with allegations by some people that the community tolerates pedophiles, especially in a school that Auroville has established for local village children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23638659 - 09/12/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Once again isn't that not very uncommon in India and a lot of Asia in general? The #1 demographic in Auroville is by far Indians not surprisingly.

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Auroville filed an official complaint to the BBC that the report was biased, untrue and contravened BBC editorial ethical guidelines - after investigations, although a few inaccuracies were identified, Ofcom did not uphold the complaint.[32] In order to protect children in the Auroville area from child abuse, the city instituted an Auroville Child Protection Service which has been in action ever since. At the time the BBC report somewhat damaged Auroville's reputation.




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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23638682 - 09/12/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Heard it's a haven for paedos.




at this point I'm fairly convinced civilization as a whole is just an elaborate paedo ring


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Ezuma]
    #23638688 - 09/12/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There are like 10-20 different farms and it seems like a potentially cool community honestly :shrug: Pedos are pretty much everywhere at this point...

I like that there are people from at least 40-50 different countries living there, could be interesting. They do group meditations and stuff too :strokebeard:

Here is a cool looking farm that is spreading permaculture:


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23638699 - 09/12/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Once again isn't that not very uncommon in India and a lot of Asia in general? The #1 demographic in Auroville is by far Indians not surprisingly.

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Auroville filed an official complaint to the BBC that the report was biased, untrue and contravened BBC editorial ethical guidelines - after investigations, although a few inaccuracies were identified, Ofcom did not uphold the complaint.[32] In order to protect children in the Auroville area from child abuse, the city instituted an Auroville Child Protection Service which has been in action ever since. At the time the BBC report somewhat damaged Auroville's reputation.







It's not very uncommon anywhere, don't be racist, but especially common in the place you speak of.  It's like going to the rainbow gathering or a libertarian convention.  Sounds good on paper but it's chock full of kidfuckers.  Better to be a regular person working a 9-5 job than associating with people obsessed breaking down boundaries like that.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23638706 - 09/12/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Better to be a regular person working a 9-5 job than associating with people obsessed breaking down boundaries like that.




That logic makes no sense :lol: Plenty of "kid fuckers" work 9 to 5 jobs, hell you probably know some and don't even realize it...


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23638727 - 09/12/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not owned by anyone you say? Send them smallpox blankets and take over their land you say?


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23638741 - 09/12/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Apparently when the founder died they requested the Indian government step in so technically it is owned but they have their own form of government.

Also they are slowly buying all the land as the funds become available I believe so eventually they should own all the land and be free to use it how they please.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Ezuma]
    #23638988 - 09/12/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Heard it's a haven for paedos.




at this point I'm fairly convinced civilization as a whole is just an elaborate paedo ring





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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23639030 - 09/12/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Heard it's a haven for paedos.




at this point I'm fairly convinced civilization as a whole is just an elaborate paedo ring





:lol:




I'm serious 
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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Ezuma]
    #23639046 - 09/12/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think the truth is a lot less interesting than that

Slavery and exploitation are certainly a big deal in any case


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23639059 - 09/12/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

shhh
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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Ezuma]
    #23639210 - 09/12/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Heard it's a haven for paedos.




at this point I'm fairly convinced civilization as a whole is just an elaborate paedo ring



As it always has been, since the dawn of mankind. We've just never had such a globally connected, elaborate and advanced media network that drops a report of a new instance into our lap (via phone/tablet/pc) within hours of another paedo being caught.

I dunno why people keep acting like it's some new, growing epidemic... The media is really twisting peoples minds.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23639242 - 09/12/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:derail:

:uhoh:

I was not expecting this thread to turn into this kind of discussion, should have known better knowing the pub... :lol:


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #23639282 - 09/12/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I imagine BBC was trying to shut it down because they want to propagandise the masses with capitalism, general greed and unease, because then the rulers keep dominating, since they've rigged the game. They probably spent a lot of time rigging it.

If the people start getting together, government becomes irrelevant, without a government to pay off how do the elite stay so elite? No one cares about their shitty money and land if we're all on the same side. We'll just take it and share it among ourselves.

That is their worst fear - human progress and unity.

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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23639316 - 09/12/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #23639459 - 09/12/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I imagine BBC was trying to shut it down because they want to propagandise the masses with capitalism, general greed and unease, because then the rulers keep dominating, since they've rigged the game. They probably spent a lot of time rigging it.

If the people start getting together, government becomes irrelevant, without a government to pay off how do the elite stay so elite? No one cares about their shitty money and land if we're all on the same side. We'll just take it and share it among ourselves.




Government is a not only inevitable, but necessary.

Your libertarian anarchist fantasy has no place in the real world, where ordinary people lie cheat and steal, organize into gangs, syndicates and nations, take advantage of the ideals weakness of the naive, and dress themselves in sheep's clothing while they wait until the time is right.

You think all this happened by accident?


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23639475 - 09/12/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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:derail:

:uhoh:

I was not expecting this thread to turn into this kind of discussion, should have known better knowing the pub... :lol:




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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23639487 - 09/12/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Auroville has a Government which is controlled by the Indian government and the Aurovillians. There can definitely be a balance and we need to find it.

You can read though the economic history of Auroville which is pretty interesting, they slowly implemented a lot of cool programs to help everyone.

Stuff like sharing food and funds where it is needed most. One of the coolest things I read about is a "free store" where everything is free. They even do tailoring!


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23639505 - 09/12/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's a balance somewhere to be sure, we're far from it at the moment

Seattle and Portland are good examples of general progress from what I've seen, where people tend to be involved in local politics and there are a lot of effective grassroots movements.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23639517 - 09/12/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't read most of this thread, but my girlfriend lived here for 9 months, and then stayed a shorter stint another time.  She taught school there, volunteered/helped around, and loved it.  Apparently they have lots of cool/interesting/fun things going on with a wide range of people but like everywhere, there's shitty people everywhere.  However, Auroville seems like it has less shitty people that most places.


I can try answering a few questions about the place if anyone's interested, from my secondhand knowledge.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23639528 - 09/12/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

But for a professed utopia, Auroville has a laundry list of problems; high up on the list are robbery and sexual harassment cases in the non-gated community surrounded by local villages, but there have been more drastic cases of rape, suicide, and even murder.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/roads/2015/07/auroville_india_s_famed_utopian_community_struggles_with_crime_and_corruption.html


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: California]
    #23639560 - 09/12/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

south india is waay to hot and humid

and I'm from SE Texas.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: California]
    #23639573 - 09/12/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That happens everywhere though... I saw multiple farms listed on their site run by single mothers and their kids so I doubt its that sketchy :shrug:

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I can try answering a few questions about the place if anyone's interested, from my secondhand knowledge.




What was the living situation like? It says on their site housing is short so people should plan on bringing or finding temporary shelter if they can't afford building a home. I think it said the city helps fund construction though and they have a department with architects to plan out and build new homes.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23639603 - 09/12/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That happens everywhere though... I saw multiple farms listed on their site run by single mothers and their kids so I doubt its that sketchy :shrug:




So you are cool going to India and being raped and robbed by hippies as opposed to staying where you are or going anywhere else.  Nice logic.  Have fun with that.
Hippies, LOL.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: California] * 2
    #23639632 - 09/12/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
That happens everywhere though... I saw multiple farms listed on their site run by single mothers and their kids so I doubt its that sketchy :shrug:




So you are cool going to India and being raped and robbed by hippies as opposed to staying where you are or going anywhere else.  Nice logic.  Have fun with that.
Hippies, LOL.





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    #23639639 - 09/12/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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south india is waay to hot and humid

and I'm from SE Texas.



Right?  Not to mention the horrible rape culture in India.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: California]
    #23639836 - 09/12/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know anything about this place but I'd rather go to Christiania in Denmark because India seems like a shithole.


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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23641005 - 09/13/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I thought they were supposed to be money free

why do they need a money bomb campaign if they're money free?


what do you think it cost to build these?




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    #23641025 - 09/13/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know anything about this place but I'd rather go to Christiania in Denmark because India seems like a shithole.





wow, another money free town where you need money



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Re: Auroville, experimental money free township in India [Re: musiclover420]
    #23641165 - 09/13/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That happens everywhere though... I saw multiple farms listed on their site run by single mothers and their kids so I doubt its that sketchy :shrug:

Quote:

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I can try answering a few questions about the place if anyone's interested, from my secondhand knowledge.




What was the living situation like? It says on their site housing is short so people should plan on bringing or finding temporary shelter if they can't afford building a home. I think it said the city helps fund construction though and they have a department with architects to plan out and build new homes.




I know she house-sitted for a while, but she may have lived outside of the town another time. It a hostel. I'm not too sure.

It's a money-free place and as long as you help out around the community, you can stay. But it's also kinda weird because there are people who have side jobs and have an extra income, so they live in auroville for nothing and regularly take expensive vacations.

Also, I think there's a bit of tension between the folks at auroville and the more traditional south Indians who live outside of the town but I dont know all the details behind that.


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