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Noob dose?
    #23637986 - 09/12/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hi! I'm an 18 year old girl and I'm planning to eat some shrooms with my boyfriend soon like next weekend I hope. I've been doing A LOT of research but I still have some questions, since I'm confused by how many different answers I get on the Internet. So of course we're planning to start with a low dose, but how low exactly would you recommend? I'm thinking 1g Golden Teachers and if that's not too overwhelming maybe do another .5. But how long should we wait before eating the last .5? I've taken mdma in the past, does a low dose feel like that? Also, a lot of people say you need to not eat anything for 6-8 hours before eating the shrooms while other people say it's important to have food in your stomach, what's actually true?! I'm so confused lol. I have anxiety and I've heard that doing low doses will give you a lot of anxiety and it won't go away like it would if you did a higher dose, is that true? And would you recommend smoking weed or should we wait with that until we've done shrooms a few times?


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638005 - 09/12/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Some people find that weed confuses the trip. 1.5 gs is a very tiny dose. Honestly I would say take 3 or 3.5 grams. I took 3.5 my first time and had an amazing experience. You should fast before to lessen stomach discomfort.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23638020 - 09/12/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What effect would 2-2,5 g have? Id love to take a higher dose but I wanna be able to calm my boyfriend down if he doesn't like the feeling, he's never done any drugs besides weed so I have no idea how he's gonna react, or how I'll react of course. We won't have a trip sitter unfortunately :/


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638031 - 09/12/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

1.5 minimum, 2.5 max to remain at an easy level. Dont smoke til the trips over

You can even make tea if you want you don't have to eat the mushrooms.

Set and setting are everything with psychedelics your mindstate and your surroundings make sure both are comfortable


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638035 - 09/12/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Start with 2 g initially maybe 2.5g. Once you eat it theres no going back so be comfortable in what youre doing :smile:. 3.5 may be too heavy especially since you have no real previous psychedelic experience and mushrooms may be something you dont enjoy, so to takea high dose like that could be a recipe for disaster.
We cant say what effect it will have, you will be high on mushrooms hahaha there will be euphoria, visual distortions, changes in thought processes and so on. The euphoria will feel similar to MDMA without the forced "plastic" love feeling. Its more of an open connectedness.
Maybe give your BF 2 g to eat for his first time. Any less may be underwhelming or just more uncomfortable.
Golden teachers are not that strong but where you guys are doing them for the first time start low.
Weed may intensify the trip which can be good or bad. For me its always good and I consistently smoke on mushrooms but there are some people where It will cause confusion, anxieity and paranoia whil high on a psychedelic as well.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23638106 - 09/12/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I took half a hit of LSD my first two times, which most people would say was a waste but I feel like it warmed me up for my third trip where I took 2 full hits and was able to maintain my composure for the most part. What I'm saying is working your way up slowly does work well for some people.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23638114 - 09/12/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I think we'll do 2g ! But idk I've heard tea shortens the trip and that'd be kinda disappointing haha. I actually have an idea I'll like the taste of them!

thanks for replying I appreciate it!


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23638122 - 09/12/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Have you ever tried doing just 2g, do you know what effects it has? Like will we see colors and patterns or just feel high? And thanks for replying, I really appreciate it!


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23638126 - 09/12/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The reason your so confused is because it's all subjective everybody has their own opinion on eating or fasting before a trip and own opinion on a first dose or the dose that one would do during a expierence , aswell as smoking weed , so id say just do what's comfortable


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23638129 - 09/12/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All mushrooms are different in potency but 2gz should give some psychedelic effects


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23638130 - 09/12/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

2gs will have minimal visuals


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638132 - 09/12/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just eat them, dont bother with tea. No sense trying to make it stronger when you dont even know if you will like them in the first place.  Tea will last about 4 hours in total where eating will be 8 hours or slightly less depending on potency and amount eaten.
You're welcome also. Just be safe and remember they wont kill you or hurt you. If things get a little hairy just remember you're on a psychedelic and the effects you feel are normal and supposed to happen :smile:
I hope you two have an amazing experience.

Also I cant say for sure what you will experience. 2 g of liberty caps will have everything breathing and slight tracers and weird color changes. During the peak usually more patterns and when laying down closing my eyes have weird pattern based visuals or weird dream like scenarios sometimes. I highly doubt 2g of golden teachers will produce that tho.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23638135 - 09/12/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for replying! Yeah I really don't get why people call it a waste, no reason to be tripping balls the first few times if that's not what you're aiming for. Would you say 2g is a good beginner dose?


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638139 - 09/12/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys have any experience with Golden Teachers? :smile:


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638142 - 09/12/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I only got threshold first time.  Three guys and an 1/8th.  My buddy said he could live in a library at that dose, just wanting to learn.  Very different when mixing with cannabis.  Never know where the mix will go and for me enhances both a great deal.  For some reason I have only smoked weed with acid once.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23638143 - 09/12/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/9067/What-do-the-different-trip-levels-Lvl-1-5-mean
2g would get me about a level 3 but I'm either pretty sensitive to them or I get potent mushrooms. Someone else might say to expect level 2 for 2g.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23638144 - 09/12/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you, I'm sure we'll have a great experience :smile:


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23638146 - 09/12/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Golden teachers are psilocybe cubensis the most commonly found mushroom on the street really


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23638155 - 09/12/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It may not be a bad idea to be each others' trip sitters; one of you trip one day/night and the other the next day/night, or something like that. It may help with whatever anxiety/nervousness/paranoia you may feel during the trip.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638171 - 09/12/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

2g is significant and it'll hit you harder than weed and for about 5-6 hours. You just have to know that and be prepared for that going in. Because once you eat it, there is no heading back. Good luck! :shroomhead:


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23638182 - 09/12/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All mushrooms you buy on the street (cubensis mainly) are all generally the same potency, the name is just the strain(physical caracteristics)

I only recommend tea because I personally don't like the taste, tea shortens the trip, but works by condensing it, producing the effect of it working faster (more intense)

Comparably when you eat them vs drink generally it's a lot slower experience. What you will experience on 2g in general is enhanced mood, euphoria, openness, universal connection, minor morphing and bending visuals, revelations and thoughts from the subconscious moving to the forefront of your mind it usually doesn't go much deeper than that. A few "wow, ah hah" moments

The feeling is very natural like weed, it feels like it's suppose to be happening, nothing to be scared of at all. Respected, yes.
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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23638338 - 09/12/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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All mushrooms you buy on the street (cubensis mainly) are all generally the same potency, the name is just the strain(physical caracteristics)




^^^^ shit advice imo, genetics play a huge role in potency, i've got some like my redboy where 1.5-2g is solid but i've had other batches where 3-4gs was underwhelming.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23638417 - 09/12/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes spores are not stable.  A huge variation in one print.  It's like a batch of cannabis seeds that are all over the place.  One reason to not do multi-spore from a pool of several reasons.

Cash croppers like homogenous and predictable.  Kids fool'n around roll the dice and take their genetic chances.  A score is a score to a newbie.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638766 - 09/12/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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while other people say it's important to have food in your stomach




This is complete BS and whoever told you that or wherever you heard that from they can absolutely not be trusted. You're going to want to fast before you do the mushrooms and 6 to 8 hours is perfect so you're already on the right track.

I usually recommend 2 or 2.5 grams to noobs. I would not recommend 1 gram or low doses in general to a first timer because it will usually just be too weird, especially with mushroom in particular. Mushrooms can be an extremely difficult psychedelic to discern when it comes to analyzing the actual experience. Its messages become much clearer the more the dosage is raised. I only recommend a 1 gram dose to people who either are really anxious or people who just can't handle drugs very well. I would take 2.5 grams if I were you, just don't take any less than 2 grams though because that will be strange. 1 gram will most definitely not be overwhelming, this isn't weed it's not what you think it is.


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I'm so confused lol. I have anxiety and I've heard that doing low doses will give you a lot of anxiety and it won't go away like it would if you did a higher dose, is that true? And would you recommend smoking weed or should we wait with that until we've done shrooms a few times?




That first part is actually in a way true. I wish someone had told me that before I got into these things but ya generally that's true. I wouldn't say they give "tons" of anxiety but taking a small dose like 1 gram or 1.5 grams can be harder to handle than even 3.5 or 4 grams because on a low dose you often feel caught or even "trapped" in between 2 different worlds/realities. It's like you have 1 foot in this reality and the other foot in some other reality. If you take sufficiently enough you will completely be pushed into this other transdimensional world or realm and feel completely in it. When you're on a low dose people have the tendency to "try an hold on" and continue to grasp onto this normal reality, at these levels you naturally try to fight it more whereas in the 3, 4 and 5 gram range you can no longer really fight it off you just have to let it do its thing.

That's why I recommend a medium dose for your first like 2 times and then you can go try a lower dose when you're more experienced and can handle yourself. Most people think it would be the other way around but it's not.

You can smoke weed towards the end of the trip but I would most definitely wait until after the peak. Weed will make things a lot more psychedelic. You can even take a toke or 2 when you first start feeling it to eliminate nausea if you have any but seriously anymore than a toke or two will probably greatly cloud the experience and you will deeply regret it afterwards.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638799 - 09/12/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I wanna be able to calm my boyfriend down if he doesn't like the feeling, he's never done any drugs besides weed so I have no idea how he's gonna react




Okay....?

That's probably the case for most people. Besides molly and occasionally LSD what other drugs after weed do most people try before shrooms? I mean I would understand your worry if he had never even smoked weed or drank alcohol but if he's smoked some weed before what's the problem?

That kind of implies that you've done more drugs yourself. What drugs have you done?


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23638821 - 09/12/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Have you ever tried doing just 2g, do you know what effects it has? Like will we see colors and patterns or just feel high? And thanks for replying, I really appreciate it!




Sorry to keep posting but I just had to once more lol..

Hopefully you don't think all shrooms are are just some colors and patterns. It isn't "just 2 gs" 2 grams is an average/good dose if your mushrooms are decent quality. 2 grams can easily be very life changing and powerful.

To me mushrooms and LSD feels like the farthest possible thing from a "high"
I don't even really understand how people can call that a "high"


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23638860 - 09/12/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I wanna be able to calm my boyfriend down if he doesn't like the feeling, he's never done any drugs besides weed so I have no idea how he's gonna react




Okay....?

That's probably the case for most people. Besides molly and occasionally LSD what other drugs after weed do most people try before shrooms? I mean I would understand your worry if he had never even smoked weed or drank alcohol but if he's smoked some weed before what's the problem?

That kind of implies that you've done more drugs yourself. What drugs have you done?



someones ability to handle weed has absolutely no fucking correlation with their ability to handle shrooms, the people who think being high on weed is "trippy" would have their throat ripped through their asshole by a real psychedelic experience even if they were an everyday stoner.


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    #23638905 - 09/12/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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someones ability to handle weed has absolutely no fucking correlation with their ability to handle shrooms, the people who think being high on weed is "trippy" would have their throat ripped through their asshole by a real psychedelic experience even if they were an everyday stoner.




I completely agree I was just wondering what the OP was even getting at because she made it seem like most people try other drugs before shrooms and she kind implied that she herself did too. But ya what you say is true, I know people who can handle acid fine but can't even handle weed.

I do think weed is "trippy" though regardless and I don't think calling weed trippy downplays shrooms in anyway because it's two totally different kinds of trippy. The same can be said for 2C-B. If someone thinks 2C-B is trippy they should try mushrooms.


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    #23638962 - 09/12/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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All mushrooms you buy on the street (cubensis mainly) are all generally the same potency, the name is just the strain(physical caracteristics)




^^^^ shit advice imo, genetics play a huge role in potency, i've got some like my redboy where 1.5-2g is solid but i've had other batches where 3-4gs was underwhelming.




I was saying Cubensis strains don't effect potency, it must of went right over your head. Genetics yes, you can have a lot of different genetics in the same strain. I was trying to clear up people thinking certain strains are stronger than others, when really it's not true, they all have the *genetic potential* to be of a certain, general maximum potency. This excludes the one and only penis envy.

If you had one batch that was stronger than the next it's because of multispore genetics not because certain strains are better, or how they were grown even. To have consistent potent mushrooms you need to clone


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23639187 - 09/12/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This excludes the one and only penis envy.

If you had one batch that was stronger than the next it's because of multispore genetics not because certain strains are better, or how they were grown even. To have consistent potent mushrooms you need to clone



have you actually grown PE yourself? PE can be strong af or extremly bunk. Like you said, you need a good clone to have stable genetics. Genetics still are entirely variable regardless if it's penis envy.....and dude, even clones can be bunk, all a clone does is ensure that all the mushrooms have relatively the same genetics. Common theme......it's all genetics.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23639228 - 09/12/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Penis envy have the *potential* to be stronger than the next strongest cubensis strain. No shit one could be bunk, the next could be potent that's multispore genetics :lol:


A clone does ensure of whichever mushroom you used to clone, they will have the same genetics and yes potency comes with this if you have potent mushroom cloned, all of them will be the same potency by weight.


Don't really know where your going with this I think we both know every mushroom is different, what you may not know though is that every cubensis mushroom excluding penis envy have a genetic limit, they can't become as strong as Azurescens randomly, and you can't find golden teachers that are stronger than the most potent penis envy, that's just how it works so no its not "entirely variable" there is a limit to the potency of the species.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23639240 - 09/12/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what you may not know though is that every cubensis mushroom excluding penis envy have a genetic limit, they can't become as strong as Azurescens randomly, so no its not "entirely variable"



dude, do you even grow mushrooms? "they can't become as strong as Azurescens randomly" that is exactly how they become more potent, it's genetic variability. And i've never had the privelage to find azzies but like i said, my redboy clone 1.5-2gs can blow your nuts off. Probably not as potent as azures but much more potent than your average cube..

edit: can you give us the link where you read that cubes have a "potency cap"...


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23639243 - 09/12/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"There is a limit to the genetic potency potential of cubensis"

You can't grow cubensis to ever be as strong as the strongest Azurescens by weight I think you're missing that

Your red boy clone is stronger than most multispore grows, that's how a clone should be. Your red boy clone can never be as potent as 2 grams of potent azurescens. Do you get the point? Lol


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    #23639252 - 09/12/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'll take a reliably good time over potency any day of the year.  Bad times simply are not worth the heroics!

Sure, I could try and down the most lethal amount of whatever at a college party.  Means nothing worth a shit in the long run.


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    #23639253 - 09/12/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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"There is a limit to the genetic potency potential of cubensis"

You can't grow cubensis to ever be as strong as the strongest Azurescens by weight I think you're missing that

Your red boy clone is stronger than most multispore grows, that's how a clone should be. Your red boy clone can never be as potent as 2 grams of potent azurescens. Do you get the point? Lol



True, but bet the RB is better than some azures forsure. but look at your post stats, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/percent.php?who=312467 spend more time in mush cult before you start speaking like you know you can't get cubes to rival the potency of azures.


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    #23639267 - 09/12/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't take a lot of posts to understand man, you can't see how much I've read. I've successfully grown cubensis as well as outdoor psilocybe cyanescens

You don't need a link to understand genetic potential..look at cannabis strains for example pretty easy to understand, say you have a purple kush plant, that particular plant can only become so potent, it can only reach its maximum potency by genetic potential of what it was bred with. You can't take random seeds and come out with 30% thc, it has to have the genetic potential to produce that much in the first place.

Cubensis don't have the genetic potential to be as strong as the strongest mushrooms in the world. Their genetics aren't there.

I know for a fact you can't get cubensis to the potency of the strongest Azurescens by weight,it's just not in the genetics. Just like you can't grow 7 and a half feet tall, your mushrooms aren't as strong as strong azurescens or cyanescens.


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    #23639277 - 09/12/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I know for a fact you can't get cubensis to the potency of the strongest Azurescens by weight,it's just not in the genetics. Just like you can't grow 7 and a half feet tall, your mushrooms aren't as strong as strong azurescens or cyanescens.



we will agree to disagree....... Robert Wadlow, tallest human recorded at 8'11"

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    #23639279 - 09/12/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was talking about you, individually. But nice link. I do ponder the idea that maybe in a small chance under a point of a percentile that a certain cubensis mushroom can become more potent than their general genetic potential. If so, it hasn't been recorded yet


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    #23639286 - 09/12/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I was talking about you, individually. But nice link. I do ponder the idea that maybe in a small chance under a point of a percentile that a certain cubensis mushroom can become more potent than their general genetic potential. If so, it hasn't been recorded yet



b/c who tf is publicly recording the felonies they commit......


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    #23639292 - 09/12/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like that quote, but also I feel like humans, certain mushrooms grow different characteristics based on location and somehow azurescens and cyans have become more potent over generations and generations, they also don't grow off the same substrate, it's a different sub species, as humans, we aren't different sub species. (Or are we?) :wink:

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    #23639296 - 09/12/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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"It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person."





I don't know if that quote really applies here lol. I don't think anyone here is "stupid" or irrational just a simple disagreement between two people.


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    #23639301 - 09/12/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I like that quote, but also I feel like humans, certain mushrooms grow different characteristics based on location and somehow azurescens and cyans have become more potent over generations and generations, they also don't grow off the same substrate, it's a different sub species, as humans, we aren't different sub species. (Or are we?) :wink:



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    #23640506 - 09/13/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23640665 - 09/13/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you guys have any experience with Golden Teachers? :smile:




Yes, I grow them too, have shared with friends, tripped alone in the dark, with my wife in the dark also as well as sharing with friends in the wilderness, etc. All potent trips, very potent from low to high doses.

My two cents:

- For first times 2.5 grams dose each is well sufficient with this strain. Golden Teachers is a strong strain and with that you will have sufficient.

- About the weed, depends your tolerance. Weed sometimes potentiates, sometimes it makes the trip more dull and foggy. This changes, is not the same for everybody and even not for every trip. During come up, I would say smoke some weed, but no bongs, no dabbing and no hashish (meaning, just aim for a buzz and the "peace" zone with weed for your come up. I would say don't smoke on the trip, this is up to you. I had one shroom trip (alone) where I vaporized some weed and the trip was dull, but it could be other stuff. In other trip, same homegrown from the spore Golden Teachers, with friends, we smoked joint after joint after joint for the entire trip, and it was awesome (dosed 3.5 grams of golden teachers each, I normally do 5.5, but a shaman spirit I connect with said that we all should do 3.5 gram doses instead the ones I initially planned.

- I normally do 5.5 grams and did 3.5 here and was awesome. More is not always better, it depends. Make sure to have some good tunes, but you both might not need a lot of them. We ended up listing to 4-7 tracks where five were Dub and 1-2 Reggae hahaha. (We did not even noticed it were the same songs.)

- If you guys plan to have sex (and this depends to each) try to during come up. Once time with my wife, I was already starting to peak and almost forgot I was having sex (held the erection though) I had to fight my mind to finish, my wife also had a very hard time to finish. Others have enhanced sex, it is up to each, but best bet is sex during come up (I am not into sex on shrooms but maybe you guys wanna try.)

- Easy access to a bottle of water,as well as to the toilet (you might pee a lot) vomiting is not common on shrooms, so it is mainly to pee. Walking from wherever you are, to the toilet will take several hours (mushroom dilated time) and if you can avoid climbing stairs, etc, great. Otherwise, it will feel like a lifetime to go pee, lol.

- Have whole foods around. Junk food tastes like cardboard (Secret Stash anyone? Buy them at Trader Joe's. You might have a laugh, has a funny picture with a funny looking thief, but on shrooms, they taste gross, yummy otherwise haha.)

- Avoid cell phones, computers, etc. You both want to be "off grid" for 9 hours or more, that way you will have plenty of time before and after the trip, without worrying about if the trip extends (or you believe it does.) Notify people you both will be "out of commission" for the entire day and night.

- If you (or your BF) play any MMORPG or other online games, remember, shrooms destroy the ego... takes a click to destroy an ultra rare item (like any other) in those games... That valuable shining axe you own and love will be the first to go if you can easily do it. The shrooms will tell you that said axe is worthless for what is truly valuable in our existence. This did not happen to me, because I was aware I was going to want my "little" shiny axe to play next day. Sure I did... but eventually (two years ago) I quit them game, but I would have got pissed if I destroyed the axe, lol.

- Have a benzo on hand. Is good and safe to have an eject button.

- If no benzo available, have a mojito or something with hard liquor. Alcohol won't kill the trip, but it will "stun your mind" and will "fog" the entire trip, something good if things go south.

- Have a voice recorder somewhere plugged to the charger (your phone IN AIRPLANE MODE will be great for this) and have the recorder on. You both want to comment the trip, during the trip. This way, it will be easier to recall the trip.

- Ideally (if you are self employed is easier) do not work the day BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the shrooms. This will give deeper peace of mind and enhance your bliss because "I don't have to work tomorrow." This is just a mental placebo, but it makes a huge impact, especially with psychedelics.
If not possible, try to have your trip on your first day off and next day off you will rest.
If not possible, try to at least have the morning off for the next day (and trip on your day off.)
Other (starting to get worse) combination is to work morning, trip late evening and day off next day. (Expect cleansing static from work and having work "dirt" in your trip.
If you only have one day off at a time and the next day you work mornings, then trip in the morning of that day off (may your breakfast be the shrooms and orange juice :mushroom2:)
If you have less off time than this, please dont trip and wait for holidays. It's worth the wait and not worth the rush.

- Ask to whatever/whoever you believe (god, jesus, zeus, shiva, spirit guides, deceased family, ET beings, elemental beings, mother earth, some dead pharaoh, your higher self or even your tunes) to protect you and aid you during the trip.

- Set the intention to have a blast.

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    #23641333 - 09/13/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the reply !
Would it be okay if I had just a light meal during the day? My blood pressure tends to get low and I don't wanna end up passing out ..
What you described with "being stuck" between tripping and not tripping is exactly what I meant, I'm gonna take 2g, I hope the anxiety won't be too bad. I've taken mdma a few times and that made me extremely anxious during the come up and also waves of anxiety after it "kicked in", that was uncomfortable as fuck! But worth it in some weird way lol.


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    #23641338 - 09/13/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've done mdma a few times, since I've never done shrooms it's impossible for me to know if those two things can even be compared in any way, but how people have described the "high" from shrooms sounds pretty familiar to me. Like being happy for no apparent reason you know? So I'm pretty sure I can handle that feeling but I have no idea if my boyfriend can.


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    #23641394 - 09/13/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the reply I really appreciate it, wow!:laugh:
Oh nooo shrooms make you pee? The bathroom is aaallll the way up stairs, that's gonna suck hahahahah!
You seem pretty experienced, a lot of people has told me to trip outside, but unfortunately I don't think we'll be able to do that. We don't really live far away from the beach for example but the thing that scares me is that we'd have to walk for what seems like ages if one of us starts to feel uncomfortable in any way. So we're planning to just do it in the house, it's pretty cosy in here, we have a big flat screen tv and we're planning to watch that show on Netflix called planet earth, light some candles, gather a bunch of blankets and pillows, we have a few plants, and we have a bunch of fairy lights (I have no idea if that's the right word, English isn't my first language but google translate told me it's called fairy lights lol) does that sound like an okay place to trip in? Even if it gets claustrophobic we have a little garden where we can sit and watch the stars.


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    #23641427 - 09/13/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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thanks for the reply !
Would it be okay if I had just a light meal during the day? My blood pressure tends to get low and I don't wanna end up passing out ..
What you described with "being stuck" between tripping and not tripping is exactly what I meant, I'm gonna take 2g, I hope the anxiety won't be too bad. I've taken mdma a few times and that made me extremely anxious during the come up and also waves of anxiety after it "kicked in", that was uncomfortable as fuck! But worth it in some weird way lol.



honestly if mdma (if it was truly mdma) gave you anxiety, mushrooms are going to be fucking heavy.


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    #23641437 - 09/13/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well fuck .. Now I'm kinda scared haha. But at least since then I've gotten a lot better at controlling my anxiety, taking deep breaths and focusing on something else helps, even just smiling helps a lot.


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    #23641482 - 09/13/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Mdma is stimulanty, I know I won't like it is why I've never tried it, mushrooms don't keep you awake, they are more sedative and dreamy, there's always come up anxiety on big enough doses, mushrooms take away my anxiety though, so you don't have anything to worry about. You will have anxiety at one point, there's nothing u can do but ride through, CBD works wonders. I never experience any anxiety with cbd

I feel like you're building up too much expectation at this point, which is the worse idea. Go into the experience with an open mind, not expecting anything.


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    #23641715 - 09/13/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

2 grams should give you most of the major effects of mushrooms without being too overwhelming (or underwhelming) in intensity (unless you're sensitive). All the research in the world does not prepare you for the effects.


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    #23642055 - 09/13/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Golden Teachers is a strong strain and with that you will have sufficient.




This is true however I disagree with what you said about no hash or dabs. I find smoked flower has way more of a chance to cloudy up the experience. To me and others hash is a much cleaner less hazy/cloudy high. The reason I think people get this twisted is because it's too easy to take too much hash at once (especially when dabbing) so people come away with this notion that they'll do everything weed does but more intense however this isn't true and the highs are totally different. If you actually take weed, hash/dabs in equal amounts to each other you will see that smoked flower is a much cloudier experience and can often really dull things. I feel smoked flower is way more prone to paranoia, confusion, derealization ect.

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magisk said:  thanks for the reply !
Would it be okay if I had just a light meal during the day? My blood pressure tends to get low and I don't wanna end up passing out ..
What you described with "being stuck" between tripping and not tripping is exactly what I meant, I'm gonna take 2g, I hope the anxiety won't be too bad. I've taken mdma a few times and that made me extremely anxious during the come up and also waves of anxiety after it "kicked in", that was uncomfortable as fuck! But worth it in some weird way lol.




Ya if you have blood pressure problems you can eat like 5 or 6 hours before hand but I would keep it to that. It's because mushrooms can lower blood pressure quite a bit especially mixed with weed. This is why many people pass out while smoking weed on shrooms because it will just really lower their blood pressure but either way it's not like this is dangerous people typically just pass out for a few seconds at the most.

Yea MDMA can be kind of weird but in a very different way. People get "preflight" jitters often times before MDMA really hits them and this can give anxiety but it's almost like an amphetamine anxiety. Mushrooms can give 'anxiety' on the come up but calling it "anxiety" almost isn't the right word because it's not like a hyperactive thing that you can get with weed or MDMA it's more of a like an ominous pessimistic attitude or a feeling of something big coming, sometimes it can feel like impending doom (in a non physical sense) but it's very different from MDMA anxiety if you even do get it.

Mushrooms are only anxious on the come up though but your first trip it might not even happen at all. I remember my first time coming up on shrooms I felt extremely neutral, I guess I was just excited to be feeling anything at all but now I get anxious coming up. I think the anxiety during the come up stages tends to only happen to people who have taken mushrooms before. I would say it gets harder and harder each time so ideally your first go (if you do it right) should be one of your easiest.

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MysticMoteToter said: honestly if mdma (if it was truly mdma) gave you anxiety, mushrooms are going to be fucking heavy.




Not necessarily true. The anxiety from MDMA is very different not to mention you can die from MDMA and that alone gives some people anxiety. Just like what we discussed earlier with weed, how someone reacts to other drugs is not an indication of how well they will handle mushrooms.

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I disagree. They most definitely keep you awake. One time me and my friend ate them when we were extremely tired literally about to fall asleep and then as soon as they kicked in we weren't even remotely tried. We were insane.


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    #23642246 - 09/13/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I meant in the sense of stimulant, I always feel like sleeping on mushrooms and I close my eyes and dream most of my trips


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    #23642286 - 09/13/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol I wish I could do that. They give me an overwhelming sense of mental wakefulness. Just mental though not physical.


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    #23642355 - 09/13/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One time I got so tired I had to just fall over on my bed I couldn't move haha. Pure sedative for me for some reason, it feels like I'm dreaming and or consciously dreaming, especially when I meditate for 2 hours staight with my eyes closed and peak in the middle, imagine not having your eyes open for 2 hours and open them up as your 2 hours deep meditating and in the middle of your peak, it's insane. I felt as if I was in some higher dimension and it wasn't possible to see this reality, so I had to close my eyes again and slowly float back down to this dimension if that makes any sense


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    #23642422 - 09/13/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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imagine not having your eyes open for 2 hours and open them up as your 2 hours deep meditating and in the middle of your peak




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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23642666 - 09/13/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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One time I got so tired I had to just fall over on my bed I couldn't move haha. Pure sedative for me for some reason, it feels like I'm dreaming and or consciously dreaming, especially when I meditate for 2 hours staight with my eyes closed and peak in the middle, imagine not having your eyes open for 2 hours and open them up as your 2 hours deep meditating and in the middle of your peak, it's insane. I felt as if I was in some higher dimension and it wasn't possible to see this reality, so I had to close my eyes again and slowly float back down to this dimension if that makes any sense




Thanks for the idea... I'll have to try that :grin:


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    #23643280 - 09/13/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I honestly would say one gram dry to get your foot in the door. this will give you a taste for what the drug is going to do to you without  pushing you too far (probably). You can always take more next time. 2 grams can be intense if you are sensitive. Right now you don't even know how sensitive you are. I have seen full meltdowns on less than 2 grams before.


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    #23643729 - 09/14/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think 1.5g is a nice starting dose, it wouldn't be too overwhelming but at the same time it'd be something to remember. But in saying that, if your confidence builds up you can push it up around 2.5-3 grams, my first trip was on about 3.5 grams, and I loved it!:mushroom2:


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #23643769 - 09/14/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If we start off eating 1.5 but we wanna eat more can we just eat the last .5 or would that not work? How long should we wait?


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: magisk]
    #23643772 - 09/14/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Your better eating it all at once, Psilocin and it's analogues build up a tolerance fairly quickly.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: dr.alkaline]
    #23644156 - 09/14/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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dr.alkaline said: I honestly would say one gram dry to get your foot in the door. this will give you a taste for what the drug is going to do to you without  pushing you too far (probably). You can always take more next time. 2 grams can be intense if you are sensitive. Right now you don't even know how sensitive you are. I have seen full meltdowns on less than 2 grams before.




No.

Taking 1 gram will not show you what the drug is going to do. At that dose it might as well be a totally different drug. Everyone knows 1 gram of shrooms is so far from 2 grams that it's practically a whole different ballgame all together. Not to mention mushrooms and their "character" are very shy and they don't like to bust out all the stops on first timers, this is why tripping often gets more and more difficult after each time because those first few times it really does take it easier on you. Even if you take a dose like 2 or 3 grams your first time they still won't completely show themselves to you. They filter themselves quite a bit on your first initial exposure.


And to the OP I would HIGHLY recommend not to redose when you are inexperienced with the drug. I honestly can't believe there's so many people that say "you can just take more" when redosing powerful psychedelic tryptamines can be really crazy and give all kinds of results. Especially with mushrooms.
Also I don't like this notion of "you can just take more later" or "some other time" when you have to realize for many people shrooms is just a 1 or 2 time thing. It's not a drug a lot of people go back to. For that reason alone (unless you're really anxious) you should honestly just jump right in. People do it with everything else so why not mushrooms?
Set and setting depends way more on how well you'll be able to handle it not dosage.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23644233 - 09/14/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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dr.alkaline said: I honestly would say one gram dry to get your foot in the door. this will give you a taste for what the drug is going to do to you without  pushing you too far (probably). You can always take more next time. 2 grams can be intense if you are sensitive. Right now you don't even know how sensitive you are. I have seen full meltdowns on less than 2 grams before.




No.

Taking 1 gram will not show you what the drug is going to do. At that dose it might as well be a totally different drug. Everyone knows 1 gram of shrooms is so far from 2 grams that it's practically a whole different ballgame all together. Not to mention mushrooms and their "character" are very shy and they don't like to bust out all the stops on first timers, this is why tripping often gets more and more difficult after each time because those first few times it really does take it easier on you. Even if you take a dose like 2 or 3 grams your first time they still won't completely show themselves to you. They filter themselves quite a bit on your first initial exposure.


And to the OP I would HIGHLY recommend not to redose when you are inexperienced with the drug. I honestly can't believe there's so many people that say "you can just take more" when redosing powerful psychedelic tryptamines can be really crazy and give all kinds of results. Especially with mushrooms.
Also I don't like this notion of "you can just take more later" or "some other time" when you have to realize for many people shrooms is just a 1 or 2 time thing. It's not a drug a lot of people go back to. For that reason alone (unless you're really anxious) you should honestly just jump right in. People do it with everything else so why not mushrooms?
Set and setting depends way more on how well you'll be able to handle it not dosage.



Man, aurora you gotta bump those ratings to be taken legitimately. :tongue:
you can't redose psychadelics b/c of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_tolerance#Tachyphylaxis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyphylaxis take the intended dose all at once
More specific here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyphylaxis#Psychedelics


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    #23644300 - 09/14/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Man, aurora you gotta bump those ratings to be taken legitimately. :tongue:





Na it's cool. All of those people were just butthurt because I have a habit of correcting people who are wrong about stuff and I do it in a very blunt and straightforward way. None of the people who rated me poorly are even people you can take seriously. They're all either trolls, followers or people who are inexperienced and uninformed so it doesn't really matter if uninformed people don't like me. If anything it's a good thing because it shows I don't pander to anyone and their nonsense. It's funny because I spent my first couple weeks on the site just correcting people and calling out people on their bullshit. It was pretty fun.

Luza simply rated me that way because he had seen others do it so ya, many people only rated me that way because I already had a bad rating and they're simply followers. This is why the rating system is dumb because it just lets trolls and people who are uneducated voice their dumb opinions and essentially attack people who actually know what they're talking about. Also a few of the ratings were just troll accounts.
WeAreMushroom and Shroombudz are both known trolls so I couldn't care less honestly.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23644325 - 09/14/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol okay, well ill just leave with this quote, "if a few people hate you, you're doing something right. If many people hate you, the hate is very likely warranted."

edit: i think it's time you look at yourself and start to question your own "knowledge"...


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    #23644364 - 09/14/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol okay, well ill just leave with this quote, "if a few people hate you, you're doing something right. If many people hate you, the hate is very likely warranted."





I've already thought about this but problem is the majority of them were just followers and most people seem to actually like me, the people who rated they simply took the fact that I already had a bad rating as "proof" that they weren't crazy for disliking me because as I said I was calling people out on their bullshit. People went with the fact that I already had a low rating from 2 morons one of them a complete troll who leaves bad ratings on people's pages for no reason and the other guy who was just cranky and irrational.
People simply followed in the footsteps. As I said people are followers and right now you're kind of almost proving that by assuming so much but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. People didn't rate me that way because of me they rated me that way because I already had that rating. None of them could even justify any of it. I take a look at myself all the time and there's nothing wrong. Would you care to tell me? Because none of these people could.


The first rating was hilarious because he was claiming to know exactly what the psychedelic experience was in a certain thread and what it's doing to the mind and I called him out on it and then he came back at me saying I was acting like "a know it all" even though the whole point of me calling him out was to heavily imply that nobody knows anything and we shouldn't assume. How he came back from that as me appearing as a "know it all" is truly beyond me and he couldn't even justify it in his own thread.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23644813 - 09/14/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

this might interest you.


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    #23644981 - 09/14/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't read all previous comments, just my 2 cents:

- Taking mushrooms is like riding a dragon. If your name is not Khalisi, you're probably not a master at that yet.
- My first trip was 2g and it was beautiful and scary and humbling. I don't know if my mushrooms were exceptionally strong, but don't assume 2g is for noobs. It's a very nice dose that will dissolve your ego and it might force you to face your true self.
- Eat them, it doesn't taste that bad, just get it over with quickly.
- Best tip I can give you: write somewhere, on a note, or on your hand, a calming message. Something like "This is just a mushroom trip. Everything is going to be ok by 6 o'clock.". It literally saved my ass when I was about to lose my sanity.
- Music! positive, fun music. You'll listen a lot more to the lyrics, so nothing that brings negative emotions.
- Close your eyes and enjoy! The geometric shapes are fabulous, the bliss is pure. If you fear, try to accept it and not fight it. Easier said than done, I know. My trick - I imagine fear as a kid that wears a scary mask and only wants to join the party.

Let us know how it went. First mushroom trip is a huge experience.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: tlvguy33]
    #23645626 - 09/14/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

auroa is a mixed bag.  he sometimes provides very good info, other times very bad info.  if he had a sense of humility, and could distinguish between those things that are his opinions and those things that are actual facts, he'd be a much more valuable member here.

confidence is a wonderful thing, but sometimes he's absolutely certain of things that simply aren't true, or things that are at least debatable. 

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    #23645633 - 09/14/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:I take a look at myself all the time and there's nothing wrong.




prime example


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    #23659894 - 09/19/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No.

king 1 gram will not show you what the drug is going to do. At that dose it might as well be a totally different drug. Everyone knows 1 gram of shrooms is so far from 2 grams that it's practically a whole different ballgame all together. Not to mention mushrooms and their "character" are very shy and they don't like to bust out all the stops on first timers, this is why tripping often gets more and more difficult after each time because those first few times it really does take it easier on you. Even if you take a dose like 2 or 3 grams your first time they still won't completely show themselves to you. They filter themselves quite a bit on your first initial exposure.






Jesus, she asked for help and I gave her my opinion. No need to be a dick about it.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: LuzaW]
    #23829756 - 11/13/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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auroa is a mixed bag.  he sometimes provides very good info, other times very bad info.  if he had a sense of humility, and could distinguish between those things that are his opinions and those things that are actual facts.




Sorry but I don't provide bad info whatsoever. Also I'm already extremely humble, I've met very few people as humble as me I'm simply just a dick. And straightforward but I definitely don't think highly of myself and I most definitely don't confuse facts with "opinions".

No need to be passive aggressive either Luza.


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Re: Noob dose? [Re: dr.alkaline]
    #23829759 - 11/13/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No.

king 1 gram will not show you what the drug is going to do. At that dose it might as well be a totally different drug. Everyone knows 1 gram of shrooms is so far from 2 grams that it's practically a whole different ballgame all together. Not to mention mushrooms and their "character" are very shy and they don't like to bust out all the stops on first timers, this is why tripping often gets more and more difficult after each time because those first few times it really does take it easier on you. Even if you take a dose like 2 or 3 grams your first time they still won't completely show themselves to you. They filter themselves quite a bit on your first initial exposure.






Jesus, she asked for help and I gave her my opinion. No need to be a dick about it.





Thanks, for a second there I thought you were going to overreact which you clearly didn't.


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