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Serious help please first attempt
    #23637571 - 09/12/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So this is my first attempt at a grow and as many of you may know it's not that easy asking for help or having someone knowledgeable to help you so I'm turning to this site, I started 3 jars of wbs ( the only person I knew who grew mushrooms told me this is the best method and it's sure fire to grow them to perfection so I took his advice, I would be asking him for advice but he's currently in a situation with the law ). 2 of the 3 jars are at 30-35% colonized after 3 weeks , but one of them is growin slow, I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time with it, please and thank you whoever helps me in advance.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23637573 - 09/12/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ps the picture of the jars are in my gallery


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23637641 - 09/12/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What tek are you following? Ms into grain?


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: liloldme]
    #23637704 - 09/12/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pics pleasee lol


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23638039 - 09/12/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

3 weeks to 35% at best? Something is off.
We need pics. We need WBS tek, and we need to know the method of inoculation. I've got a hunch that the WBS was not prepared correctly, you noc'd with MS syringe, and there's bacteria. Just a guess though.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: liloldme]
    #23638108 - 09/12/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

im using the frank 12 step and im using wbs,i didnt have a pressure cooker so for safety i boiled the jars for an 125 mins using a timer, let cool while i was at work in the still air chamber created for 9 hours till i inoculated the jars. its been 3 weeks and 1 day and 1 of them doesnt look right. just let me know if i did them wrong. if you want to see my photos my computers being weird so go to my gallery and see them, thank you for your help.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23638118 - 09/12/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)









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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily] * 1
    #23638149 - 09/12/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ii didnt have a pressure cooker so for safety i boiled the jars for an 125 mins using a timer



totally fucked up. we do 1h30m+ in PCs. youre grain looks contamed as shit.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily] * 1
    #23638153 - 09/12/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Grains without a pressure cooker is an automatic fail, especially only 1:25, I pressure cook grains longer than that. Steam sterilization without a PC would take at least 8 hours even then I wouldn't trust it, endospores are a bitch.

Without a PC you aren't following Frank's tek.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23638201 - 09/12/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it isn't either or. Grains are not PF tek. You can't decide to boil because you don't have a PC. Throw those things out.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: just_curious]
    #23638217 - 09/12/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol have some started to germ?


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: spore-ty]
    #23638241 - 09/12/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those things look pretty gross; chuck em and try again following a tek to the T. If you don't have a PC then use PF Tek. the nature of the Verm layer keeps out contams and the hot bath is all thats needed for PF. WBS needs to be Pressure cooked and for longer than you did it without a PC. Try again, this time follow the teks.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: leech911]
    #23638306 - 09/12/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, those are done. Toss em. Get a PC


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23638358 - 09/12/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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in this case I wouldn't even dump out the jars and wash them for re-use. I would toss the whole fucking jar


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23638420 - 09/12/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:  Toss.  Try again and actually read this time.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Inocuole]
    #23638554 - 09/12/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Amazon is selling pressure cookers for under 60 bucks, they ship to your front door in less than 3 days.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: liloldme]
    #23638670 - 09/12/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but they is done.

Start again chef.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: liloldme]
    #23638675 - 09/12/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Amazon is selling pressure cookers for under 60 bucks, they ship to your front door in less than 3 days.





Get a amazon prime membership trial for a month and get everything you need... they have the 23 qt presto that was 100$ now its 76$


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: spore-ty]
    #23638690 - 09/12/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Amazon is selling pressure cookers for under 60 bucks, they ship to your front door in less than 3 days.





Get a amazon prime membership trial for a month and get everything you need... they have the 23 qt presto that was 100$ now its 76$



Seconding this, as long as you don't forget to cancel the trial it's free as well :smile:


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23638707 - 09/12/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I just got the 23 quart presto shipped to uk, it's a beast :cool:

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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23639047 - 09/12/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Amazon is selling pressure cookers for under 60 bucks, they ship to your front door in less than 3 days.





Get a amazon prime membership trial for a month and get everything you need... they have the 23 qt presto that was 100$ now its 76$



Seconding this, as long as you don't forget to cancel the trial it's free as well :smile:





Hahaha ya dont forget to unsubscribe for the trial


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23639205 - 09/12/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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in this case I wouldn't even dump out the jars and wash them for re-use. I would toss the whole fucking jar




I would jest get a pressure cooker and pressure cook those jars for 90min then wash and reuse.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: X2QE]
    #23639214 - 09/12/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The first run in a new pressure cooker being moldy nasty jars sure does sound like a good way to break it in... :rolleyes:


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Inocuole]
    #23639220 - 09/12/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What is wrong with that practice? Do you not PC your contaminated jars?


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: X2QE]
    #23639238 - 09/12/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why, if you get them before they're fucked just dump them outside and wash out. If they're thst fucked its time to drop 10$ on a pack of 12 more jars


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23639260 - 09/12/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree on the point if I caught early, just dump outside into compost. That is what I do too. But if I forget about a set and some are really bad like OP I just PC and wash really well. I don't believe that PCing gross jars will contam the inside of your PC if you PC long enough.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23639382 - 09/12/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why, if you get them before they're fucked just dump them outside and wash out. If they're thst fucked its time to drop 10$ on a pack of 12 more jars





This.  If my jars get too bad, I don't even attempt to open.  Nor would I want to.  Keep that spore spread shit inside the jar and toss will intact!


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Mushierage]
    #23640256 - 09/12/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

thank you all for youre help, even though its not the news i wanted to hear. so would it better for me to start of with pf tek. if anyone can lead me to a good guide that would be lovely.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23640383 - 09/13/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can PC contaminated jars if you really want but it's going to smell nasty and it's a real pain in the ass.  If you want to save money on new jars, yeah, go ahead and do it.  I wouldn't do 90 minutes though.  Like 60 since the point is to throw them away, not use them again.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Inocuole]
    #23640572 - 09/13/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

if u are poor, pick up a tiny mirror PC :shrug:


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Inocuole]
    #23640582 - 09/13/16 04:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's not just about saving money but reducing waste where you can.


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    #23641205 - 09/13/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i really hate my mirro. It uses a weight but no gauge....I really want one with a gauge. I always feel like I'm not PCing correctly without one.


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: just_curious] * 1
    #23641507 - 09/13/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i really hate my mirro. It uses a weight but no gauge....I really want one with a gauge. I always feel like I'm not PCing correctly without one.





... A weight is more accurate than a gauge.  The weight isn't gonna start rocking at some random ass pressure point or anything, it's pretty damn consistent.


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i really hate my mirro. It uses a weight but no gauge....I really want one with a gauge. I always feel like I'm not PCing correctly without one.





... A weight is more accurate than a gauge.  The weight isn't gonna start rocking at some random ass pressure point or anything, it's pretty damn consistent.



Yep. The gauge is useless aside from fondling your curiosity


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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: X2QE]
    #23641591 - 09/13/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I would jest get a pressure cooker and pressure cook those jars for 90min then wash and reuse.




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    #23643791 - 09/14/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hopefully it doesnt molest my curiosity

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Re: Serious help please first attempt [Re: Thatqtemily]
    #23643827 - 09/14/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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frank dont like cracked corn. read it again.
don't eat that.
You can save those jars and lids by cleaning with a aceatone and bleech soak.
you could just throw them in a dumpster.
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