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Smoothcat
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23642542 - 09/13/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually on re-reading what you just said my advice would be wait.
If it's only 5 days and you have myc you might be ok.
Get some pics up
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23642551 - 09/13/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anu actual facts regarding this question . Will it work or not . Is pressure cooking temps enough to kill spores and or psilocybin mycelium. I want to use a different strain . And not create waste . Food for kind fungi
Edited by MykoMyers (09/13/16 06:35 PM)
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23642561 - 09/13/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The thing is the strain is wack so I want to know if at this moment in time . 3 days . If pcing will kill everything in the jar
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23642594 - 09/13/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sure it's probably possible, but far from sterile and something could/will probably go wrong.
I would say, keep them jars let em grow!
If you want to start another strain then start a new batch, get some more jars, get some more grain and then off you go!
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23642984 - 09/13/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes it will kill all in the jars and fuck up water content in jars. But does work. But buy more jars. Youll need them later anyway.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: tump]
#23643136 - 09/13/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I don't think it's gonna fuk up its pearl barley so real fluffy and watery. I'm pcing it right now . 45 minutes 15 psi I'm gonna noc it up with hawaiian spores . I'll keep you updated
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23643205 - 09/13/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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45 mins wont cut it.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: tump]
#23643249 - 09/13/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use 45 minutes for every grain grow never had/have an issue . It's the hillbilly syringe I had . I realized in that 2.5 days that three lcs from it did nothing while two other strains I had . We're going . were only on the shelf for 2.5 days far from bacterially contaminated . I hope it works if so then cool . Because I meant to by hulled barley and bought pearl so it was a waste anyway. I do birdseed for 45 minutes and that's even after a 48 hour soak.
I sniffed the jar and it was fine before cooking. I even changed the lids and foil ... Any longer in the pc for this one I think it would have overcooked. I did think about doing 60 . we'll see if it works . The Madagascar syringe I have is partly germinated so im going to put 10 drops in each . And give them a good shake .
Also after every pc I put my Jars from the refrigerator then the freezer . Then inoculate right away. With grains though I'm used to using those giant turkey baster syringes with lc
Now with spores I feel like less is better . At least in an lc. So why not in grain .
Edited by MykoMyers (09/13/16 10:43 PM)
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23643319 - 09/13/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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45 minutes pc on grains? Really? That's literally the recommended minutes for liquid media with a few solids... Not an entire jar of grains. Damn you must have some bacterial jars if you're doing only 45 minutes. Endospores easily survive that. I've had to go up to 2 hours from 90 minutes because of endospores.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Mad Season]
#23643455 - 09/13/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When i started out years ago everyone was going 90 mins at 15 psi. Now i go 2 hours because it gives me peace of mind and the energy cost for 30 mins is like 3 cents on a pc. Lc is a whole different animal then spore syringes. One being spores syringes are never clean 100% but with bacteria the spores and myc can out run bacteria. Thus making it not so bad on subs or growth out in grain to grain. On the out hand bacterial out runs everything in a lc. When the grains still grow the myc out its weakened. Even if its all white a fuffy the colonize time is longer and trich comes much quicker because of how much the myc have to fight bacteria
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Mad Season]
#23643456 - 09/13/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My woodlovers (allenii, ovoid, cyan, etc) love the shit out of coir mixed with soil/chips then cased with peat.


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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Adden]
#23643616 - 09/14/16 01:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice I'm bout to try that coir outdoor soiil thing in the meantime with cubes
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: tump]
#23643620 - 09/14/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doing 2 hours doesn't drastically change the appearance of the grain though? Like crispy cause with birdseed i would get that even from 90 sometimes . I'm thinking maybe keeping the flame high makes a difference though .
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23643642 - 09/14/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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liloldme works exclusively with coir outside (or peat I mix them up).
Best advice is prep your grains like cubes. If you can, prep them with alder wood water, or put wood agar to your grains. It's that initial jump that saprotrophic species seem to have a problem with from what I've seen posted here. Like when people try to mix chips with grains and all it does is mess up moisture content, adds contams, and is just a mess. They need to "know" what their future food is going to be, which is why woodgar sectoring is pretty important IMO.
Alder wood water -> cooking chips boiled for an hour, drained, then use them for an outdoor planter or dry them and save for later. I've still got a few quarts. It really does go a long way.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: tump]
#23643647 - 09/14/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
tump said: No really no Bill shit guys. Until i join here i never took pictures of anything. Tubs work just as well as bed if fruiting outside during day and bring in side at night.
This is not true.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23644290 - 09/14/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MykoMyers said: Doing 2 hours doesn't drastically change the appearance of the grain though? Like crispy cause with birdseed i would get that even from 90 sometimes . I'm thinking maybe keeping the flame high makes a difference though .
More caramel in color, yes. But the bacteria is mostly gone, and the myc eats through it like it's nothing anyways.
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Mad Season]
#23644498 - 09/14/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, it will enjoy the coir, but should really only be used as a filler in between the wood chips. It helps retain moisture and acts as a bridge or stepping stone for the mycelium to travel on while looking for more wood IMO. I think it's safe to say you can skip spawning grain to wood before spawning the colonized wood to an outdoor bed. I have successfully spawned WBS to wet wood chip planting beds with ps cyans it took really well.
This is what I did most recently check it out
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: Adden]
#23645008 - 09/14/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wait what's that now . You put jars of wood chip water and use that for what ?
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: MykoMyers]
#23645529 - 09/14/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Soaking grains, making agar, and watering my planters.
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MykoMyers
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Re: Azure outdoor coir. Is it possible ? [Re: liloldme]
#23658992 - 09/19/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pouring straight colonized grain in the soil? That's what I did with 1 jar of Hawaiian yesterday in a small spot that gets slightly moist from the sprinkler in the bush next to it
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