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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Adden]
    #23773150 - 10/26/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No, it was just a field observation.

NothingsChanged has been seeing football fields of mushrooms for decades I wonder what his 2 cents are.

I know from studying here that babying patches is relatively harmful for their longevity and production.

I see flail mowers come through and tear the shit out of mushrooms and throw them and their spores into areas. It's where I find most of my mushrooms, and in spots where it looks like the patch got nailed by a very high tide a few years back and is finally coming anew. I see my patches come back stronger in some of the worst flood spots, or enough to move them down new game trails and paths.



This is with azzies growing from dune grass and fallen tree debris. The food sources in many of these areas is endless. You take this same idea to man made woodchip beds and start tearing up myc and moving it or throwing it around the patch will die.  I have seen this happen. In my first years i would harvest pretty much every fruit that came up. This seemed to be detrimental to the patch as things were sparse the following year. This may have been the natural life cycle of the patch, but i have seen it in several situations. Ime it does seem that cyan patches have a life span of about 3 seasons plus or minus.

One of the first big patches i found was massive 3 years ago about 50'x50' with dozens of dense clusters. This thing in my mind had a very good habitat. Sprinklers that went off every morning throughout the summer, several doug fir trees, various different ground cover plant and grasses throughout. Plenty of wood chips. The first year i found this patch, i saw someone comming out of the bushes with a back pack full. This was like the first week of oct.  I still cleaned up about a large paper bag full. The next year it was having a full first flush the 3rd week of sept. It had 5 more flushes into late december. It was very healthy and robust. By this year many had found this spot and tore it up. Raped the hell out of it. I checked on it several times this year, still plenty of food, plenty of area to migrate and yet it seems the patch is dead. Nothing.  So either the pin raping, ripping up the myc or the natural life span killed this thing. I think it was the first thought. as i think the whole reason mushrooms put out spores is to reproduce with new genetic variance. This is because the patch also has a natural life span. If you pick every fruit the patch can't reproduce and it will eventually die.

These are just thoughts i have had from what i have observed. I can't help but wonder about these things. I may be way off. Any ideas on this?


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: molemole]
    #23773244 - 10/26/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)


Found a new patch of cans these things are massive! Some the size of my hand! Sorry for blurry pictures I was excited


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: molemole]
    #23773251 - 10/26/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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molemole said:
Quote:

Adden said:
No, it was just a field observation.

NothingsChanged has been seeing football fields of mushrooms for decades I wonder what his 2 cents are.

I know from studying here that babying patches is relatively harmful for their longevity and production.

I see flail mowers come through and tear the shit out of mushrooms and throw them and their spores into areas. It's where I find most of my mushrooms, and in spots where it looks like the patch got nailed by a very high tide a few years back and is finally coming anew. I see my patches come back stronger in some of the worst flood spots, or enough to move them down new game trails and paths.



This is with azzies growing from dune grass and fallen tree debris. The food sources in many of these areas is endless. You take this same idea to man made woodchip beds and start tearing up myc and moving it or throwing it around the patch will die.  I have seen this happen. In my first years i would harvest pretty much every fruit that came up. This seemed to be detrimental to the patch as things were sparse the following year. This may have been the natural life cycle of the patch, but i have seen it in several situations. Ime it does seem that cyan patches have a life span of about 3 seasons plus or minus.

One of the first big patches i found was massive 3 years ago about 50'x50' with dozens of dense clusters. This thing in my mind had a very good habitat. Sprinklers that went off every morning throughout the summer, several doug fir trees, various different ground cover plant and grasses throughout. Plenty of wood chips. The first year i found this patch, i saw someone comming out of the bushes with a back pack full. This was like the first week of oct.  I still cleaned up about a large paper bag full. The next year it was having a full first flush the 3rd week of sept. It had 5 more flushes into late december. It was very healthy and robust. By this year many had found this spot and tore it up. Raped the hell out of it. I checked on it several times this year, still plenty of food, plenty of area to migrate and yet it seems the patch is dead. Nothing.  So either the pin raping, ripping up the myc or the natural life span killed this thing. I think it was the first thought. as i think the whole reason mushrooms put out spores is to reproduce with new genetic variance. This is because the patch also has a natural life span. If you pick every fruit the patch can't reproduce and it will eventually die.

These are just thoughts i have had from what i have observed. I can't help but wonder about these things. I may be way off. Any ideas on this?




If there was lots of foot traffic I'd say it's not fruiting because the mycelial mat got stomped on so bad and needs to recover. If the patch was already healthy with large fruits in years past the genetics are already strong. If many people have found it many probably check it and stomp around on the myc. Perhaps over the next few years people will forget about it and it will have time to recover. The spots that have huge patches are largely undisturbed during colonization. Or they just have a ridiculously large amount of food.


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #23773717 - 10/26/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

anyone want to lend a helping hand in ID'ing these? I'm thinking Cyanofibrillosa. taking spore print right now. I'm 100% sure they're psilocybes based on bruising, stipe, and gills. found in the wilamette valley


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: psilocyclops]
    #23773730 - 10/26/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

all these slugs be gettin high as fuck eatin all the mushies


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: psilocyclops]
    #23773803 - 10/26/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone want to lend a helping hand in ID'ing these? I'm thinking Cyanofibrillosa. taking spore print right now. I'm 100% sure they're psilocybes based on bruising, stipe, and gills. found in the wilamette valley




Looks like the ps. Allenii in my sig. to me. Definitely psilocybe. Nice find.

Isn't ps. Allenii and ps. Cyanofibrillosa the same?


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: molemole]
    #23773909 - 10/26/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone want to lend a helping hand in ID'ing these? I'm thinking Cyanofibrillosa. taking spore print right now. I'm 100% sure they're psilocybes based on bruising, stipe, and gills. found in the wilamette valley




Looks like the ps. Allenii in my sig. to me. Definitely psilocybe. Nice find.

Isn't ps. Allenii and ps. Cyanofibrillosa the same?





Pretty sure allenii used to be cyanofriscosa not cyanofibrillosa, but they do look very similar and sound similar i could understand the confusion.

And yes i would agree those look like the bright yellow id associate with allenii. Nice find!


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: molemole]
    #23773918 - 10/26/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

such a good year already! great finds everyone just ate a couple grams of some cyans i found 2 weeks ago, happy hunting to you all!!


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Frequency88]
    #23774059 - 10/26/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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ate a couple grams




  :death:  rip

@topic: Nice finds!


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Patch nuke]
    #23774153 - 10/26/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Can anybody tell me if i picked immature Alenii? The pictures online all look like mine but they seemed small compared to the cyanescens I was finding so just curious. Very excited to have found my second ever species of psilocybe.

Of all the things I found today it was what was in my own backyard that really blew my fucking mind to pieces. Some combination of rotten apples, half burried wood chips, and dank natural fertilizer from my cannabis plants (along with all the millions of spores I've brought home on my body) spawned a nice ripe patch of cyanescens! I never ever ever ever fucking thought I would find something as cool as that in my backyard, much less within a foot or two of my plants.

The kicker? I discovered these when my roommate brought me out to show me poisonous mushrooms (totally convinced that they were something special) right after I had gotten home from harvesting mushies today.


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: psilocyclops]
    #23774242 - 10/26/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Been a minute but I'm back at it again this year. Sadly a few of my spots seem to have become public knowledge and I keep getting beaten to the flushes. On the plus side I'm not seeing massive destruction and mushrooms are being left behind.  Found a nice lil bit today in a place that hadn't done much the past few years.





Also kudos to you gents with the fantastic cultivation. I really need to get into doing that since I take a ton of spore prints. Tried my hand at it a while back and then life got in the way. I really want to find one of those monster patches too, so pretty to see and it must be epic in person.







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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: psilocyclops]
    #23774631 - 10/26/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not 100% sure these are azures. I haven't seen woodchip azures yet, and these were quite meaty. Found in Pacific county.


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: OldHag]
    #23774681 - 10/26/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely azurescens. Nice find.
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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: OldHag]
    #23774689 - 10/26/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:  They just might be!


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #23774710 - 10/26/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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:popcorn:  They just might be!




Just look at those nips.:randysavage: wicked nips brother!


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #23774749 - 10/26/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How dare you speak such vile garbage to me!

...Totally nippin'


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #23774756 - 10/26/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Reminds me of Davids patch in the Bay.

Holy azures...


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: OldHag]
    #23774768 - 10/26/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not 100% sure these are azures. I haven't seen woodchip azures yet, and these were quite meaty. Found in Pacific county.





These look strikingly similar to the suspect subaeruginosa beta found last year we dubbed the miq. Nippy and round bit mildly wavy and quite gregarious. But i could be wrong.


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #23774769 - 10/26/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, they looked so meaty with such thick stipes that I was reminded of ovoids, but the cap screamed azure except the ones that weren't flattened out into their ufo shape.


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Re: Un (Official 2016 PNW Actives Thread) [Re: N05482]
    #23774787 - 10/26/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't detect any waviness, but didn't investigate super closely. I'll look at them again tomorrow, because I saw another couple mushrooms a bit aways from these that didn't look quite the same and after thinking about it I'm wondering if they looked like baeos, which I have yet to have seen in person. Never seen subs in person either. For some reason my brain keeps saying that I dropped off some ovoid stem butts here a couple years ago, but maybe I just thought about doing that.


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