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Zurtch
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Pan subbs or foes? Or other?
#23635632 - 09/11/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Found these in my lawn, fertilized by nearby field and horse pasture on my property if I had to guess. Both the whitish mushies and the brown ones were growing close together. Spore prints are coming in for the brown and it is looking Jet black. Did I luck out or look alikes? Many thanks! This one I found recently but the spore print is looking white and it was found near decaying wood
These are the mushies in question
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23636043 - 09/11/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look about right and you're saying jet black spores. Maybe post a shot of that. Are they bruising at all?
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Joie]
#23636181 - 09/11/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking like it is mixed black and brown, the black would most likely be pan subbs correct?

And I havent noticed any bruising as of yet, do subbs only show blue bruising?
Edited by Zurtch (09/11/16 03:59 PM)
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23637508 - 09/12/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The print looks brown to me. Draw a line with a black sharpie next to it for comparison.
More often then not they won't bruise.
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: SkagitHunter]
#23637687 - 09/12/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That looks quite black to me, it seems like the brown are printing black and the white are printing brown. Bruising, if active, means psilocybin concentration right?
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23637774 - 09/12/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zurtch said: That looks quite black to me, it seems like the brown are printing black and the white are printing brown. Bruising, if active, means psilocybin concentration right?
Psilocin causes the blue bruising.
Not swearing by it but I also observe P. foenisecii dries a little paler and more Psath-like, so I'm glad to note you think that.
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Joie]
#23637933 - 09/12/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would yall say this is a black spore print then? Im printing more of the brown looking ones now, especially the bigger one, hopefully it prints black, ive noticed some bruising after several hours, like a deep bluish black. Is that further indicative of an active species?
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23637984 - 09/12/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The print looks quite black in the photo but there is a reddish band in the image, not sure if that's the photo or the paper or what. If it is bruising blueish then sure, perhaps show us the bruising.
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Joie]
#23638610 - 09/12/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you for the quick replies dude, sorry this took a minute. It is really hard for me to tell bruising colors let alone the proper way to do it. I noticed some stems I collected today had a very small amount of blue at the tip, hopefully you can see it in the pictures. If not Ill take some new ones to try and get better quality. I noticed a bit or red underneath the first layer of the stems as well as noted in the pictures.
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23640565 - 09/13/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You'll hate me - I am tempted to say it's down to your judgement but then there has to be someone who has sussed them. Keep meaning to but no promises here. It is such a nuisance doing this, sometimes telling people their mushrooms are likely foes but without 100% certainty, I might as well say it's very hard to tell.
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Joie]
#23640621 - 09/13/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is totally alright, I knew most of what I would find is Foes as I have read that everwhere. Once my suspicious mushrooms print brown, I toss em. If they are black or purplish black or purple dark brown, I look at them close and try to ask yall. Again thanks for the replies, much appreciated dude! Ill save the caps that printed black; there is no look alike that has any severe toxicity right? Foes, if consumed for some, cause the shits like no other, but nothing else?
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Zurtch]
#23640645 - 09/13/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Foes aren't toxic (not getting into what is a lookalike).
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Re: Pan subbs or foes? Or other? [Re: Joie]
#23640649 - 09/13/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks.
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