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Stunspore
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cobweb again
#23634743 - 09/11/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was getting ready to fruit my substrate but when I opened the bag it looked like the mycelium was covered in a thin layer of cob web. My question is this, will spraying with peroxide slow pinning or will the coweb slow down the fruiting process? here are some pics of my bin.





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Mad Season
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Don't spray with peroxide. You'll just spread it around your house, and no matter how much peroxide you spray, it'll keep coming back. Peroxide only works if you catch it early. Like no bigger than a pog disc
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bodhisatta 
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it's unfortunate that peroxide as a cure for cobweb is repeated so often. if you have cobweb your fruiting conditions are shit and you also were not clean. you need to fix the root of the problem. peroxide damages mycelium so chances are you're only helping the contamination out in the long run. those pictures are disgusting, and indicative of needing to go back to square one and get it right from the start.
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Stunspore
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Thanks for the feedback guys
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Mad Season said: Don't spray with peroxide. You'll just spread it around your house, and no matter how much peroxide you spray, it'll keep coming back. Peroxide only works if you catch it early. Like no bigger than a pog disc
How exactly does peroxide cause the spread of cobweb?
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Trusted Cultivator said: it's unfortunate that peroxide as a cure for cobweb is repeated so often. if you have cobweb your fruiting conditions are shit and you also were not clean. you need to fix the root of the problem. peroxide damages mycelium so chances are you're only helping the contamination out in the long run. those pictures are disgusting, and indicative of needing to go back to square one and get it right from the start.
I've tried already so many times I'm ready to give up. This time I thought I was thorough with my procedure I pastureized my substrate for 3 hours on the stove boiling it in my pc and I constantly checked the temp. If I had to take a guess I think it may have been the garbage bag I used as a liner I didn't wash it I just used it right out the box and when I opened the bag I noticed what looked like cobweb growing on the inside of the bag. That was my first hint something went wrong.
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Mad Season
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Water vapor from high pressure liquids spraying directly at mycelium fragments and spores? Better question is why wouldn't it spread spores. Misting a mold is the #1 way to spread the spores man. Never mist molds.
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bodhisatta 
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Pasteurization is 1-2 hours only at 140-160F core temperature. Boiling 3 hours is not pasteurization
The act of spraying spreads cobweb
Nothing grows on plastic bags
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Stunspore
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Mad Season said: Water vapor from high pressure liquids spraying directly at mycelium fragments and spores? Better question is why wouldn't it spread spores. Misting a mold is the #1 way to spread the spores man. Never mist molds.
Noted
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Trusted Cultivator said: Pasteurization is 1-2 hours only at 140-160F core temperature. Boiling 3 hours is not pasteurization
The act of spraying spreads cobweb
Nothing grows on plastic bags
Next time im using the oven method. Are you trying to say using the boiling method isint good or just the length of time because I read a lot of guides that say 3 hours is fine as long as it's kept at the correct temp (I had it at 170).
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Nothing grows on plastic bags
I wish I had taken a picture but I assure you I saw it on the bag with my own eyes and even if it wasn't does that also mean the bag couldint be a source of contamination?
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bodhisatta 
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170F is partial sterilization. If you hit 170F you ruined your pasteurization.
The oven method is the last way I would recommend. Just follow directions for normal pasteurization.
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Stunspore
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What method would you consider normal pasteurization?
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Tira



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type "proper pasteurization" in the search bar and you'll be surprised how good it works .)
-------------------- Useful Links for Beginners The Basics AMU Teks Frank''s Teks Agar Noob Forum Reccomended Teks Agar for guaranteed spawn, Proper pasteurization for guaranteed substrate.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: cobweb again [Re: Tira]
#23674897 - 09/24/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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or the links in my signature
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Stunspore
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I actually looked at your links before you have multiple different methods of pastureation all I want to know is which one do you prefer.
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bodhisatta 
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