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Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions
    #23634441 - 09/11/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey all, this tub has been colonising for 11 days. Do you think it's ready for fruiting conditions yet? The holes might of been put too high though, because I didnt have enough spawn to go higher. There is 2 more up higher on the sides to (6 in all though). Once I put polyfill in the holes, do you think I should open it up at all during the day, to give it even more FAE? Thanks for any tips! -Tim



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634451 - 09/11/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pic?

If the surface looks colonized you can put it in fruiting. It wont hurt anything if you fruit it before its fully colonized.

To give your tub more FAE you loosen the bottom polyfil.  You have to learn to read the tub to dial it in proper. Look at the surface, it should have a constant layer of tiny water droplets (ignore the walls, condensation fluctuates with the temperature changes throughout the day).

The droplets on the surface should start to dry up near to the bottom polyfill. This shows that if you loosen the poly anymore the sub will start to dry out.
Its all about finding a balance , you want the max FAE you can give without drying out the tub.

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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
    #23634455 - 09/11/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I had to edit to add the pic, sorry about that! The bottom holes ended up being an inch and a half above the sub. The 1's on the side are up higher, about an inch and a half below the lid.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634474 - 09/11/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How big are the holes though, they look kinda smAll hard to see though.

That sub is definetly ready for fruiting, I see knots forming. Should start to pin in a few days


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
    #23634505 - 09/11/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

EDIT: The holes are a tiny bit bigger than an inch, but the tub is only 38 quart I think. I estimated there to be almost 9 quart of material in there, (3 quart spawn + at least 5.5 quart bulk sub.) I might have even less though, because when I weighed everything it was only 7.2 pounds total, and the tub itself can't weigh more than the .2


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634603 - 09/11/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would drill out bigger holes if I were you, Maybe 2 " or so


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
    #23634614 - 09/11/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What do you think the easiest way to do it now is? I don't have a drill either personally. I did the 6 on there by starting small holes out with a screw, and then boring them out with a pair of scissors. Any MacGuyver methods to go bigger that you know of?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634617 - 09/11/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can heat something round up on the stove and melt thru

For still air boxes people sometimes heat coffee cans and melt s hole thru



Easiest is to just borrow a drill and get a 2" bit :shrug:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
    #23634732 - 09/11/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I realised I can heat a spoon up which would give me 1 5/8", how's about that, do I *need to go bigger?

Any shot at me possibly getting by on this grow without doing it before though? And maybe keeping the poly looser than normal, and opening it up to mist/fan a few times a day? -Tim


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634775 - 09/11/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really see the point in messing with the tub at this stage.
For this tub, I would just stuff the bottom holes tightly with polyfill,
and keep the top holes very, very loose to maximize FAE.

You may also want to consider running a small fan at the opposite end of the room, pointed away from the tub, to keep the air circulating in your grow room.

Definitely for your next tubs, aim for a 1 1/4" hole size using a hole saw attachment for a drill. Easiest way to do it IMO. :goodluck:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23634844 - 09/11/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the tips, I like the sound of that. For fruiting I plan on putting the tub below my bright fluorescent bulbs (on about 12 hrs a day.) In this position they'd also be about 5 feet below a ceiling fan that's on low, in reverse. I think it will generate moving air around the tub, while not blowing directly at it. I don't know how advisable it is though, as far air currents are concerned, but I'll play it by ear.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634879 - 09/11/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like it could work well. Just make sure to keep an eye on the surface.
If it dries out a bit too much, don't be afraid to give it a good misting.
Surface evaporation is a major pinning trigger


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23634891 - 09/11/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice! I planned on going to Wally World later, and I'm gonna buy the poly. Is there anything in particular I should be looking for? I'm looking to spend as little as possible. haha


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634899 - 09/11/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A spray bottle (if you don't already have one). Maybe some more quart jars?
That's all I can think of lol


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634901 - 09/11/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you can, I would invest in a drill. Not just for mycology work, but for just any project in general. Out of all my tools the drill is the most essential. I can't really do any project without it. Maybe try a pawn shop for a used one.:thumbup:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: X2QE]
    #23634907 - 09/11/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For the poly itself though is there a specific type that's cheap? I don't want to buy a big bag of the stuff or anything.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634915 - 09/11/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have found two types of polyfill in stores, but I highly recommend sticking to the bottom bag, it allows the right amount of FAE (depends on how tightly you stuff them tho, obviously)



I've tried the extra loft brand, but it always seems like it doesn't allow any FAE to pass through the tubs, it's just wayy too thick


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23634922 - 09/11/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Great, I'll look for it!


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23634940 - 09/11/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23635510 - 09/11/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've been thinking, and I'm wondering that since my holes are only 1.1" at most, would I be able to get away with cutting an incision in my pillow, and taking some of the filling out? If contams would be an issue, I could boil it in water first, and then air dry. Thoughts?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23635569 - 09/11/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Shouldn't be an issue with contams.  You sub is contam resistant.  But dousing it in alcohol and drying it out wouldn't hurt anything.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23635598 - 09/11/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have taken the stuffing from pillows plenty, it works fine.
May find poly is a little softer, the pillow stuffing my pillow had at least was realtivly coarse.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23635848 - 09/11/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Does this stuff look suitable? I have another pillow too if necessary.



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23635853 - 09/11/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good stuff right there

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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23635859 - 09/11/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

thank you!


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23635946 - 09/11/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I brought the tub over to under the lights and have the poly ready. But does it seem like I should wait another day to take the tape off? I don't wanna jump the gun or anything.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636018 - 09/11/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You should fruit that now, stuff those bottom holes tightly with poly :thumbup:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636023 - 09/11/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK I trust the advice, that one guy in the middle does look like good news.



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636099 - 09/11/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like your tub could use more airflow, that mycelium needs to breathe :super:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23636133 - 09/11/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I went ahead and took the tape off the topmost 2 holes for starters. I'm debating how much tighter I should make the bottom ones though. I'm weighing the pieces of poly, so I can go with a specific percentage. Would you go twice as tight on the bottom?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636225 - 09/11/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In between the loosest possible and the tightest possible,
Most likely 'medium'
But it will also depend a little on your environment like swamp or mountains can be different.
You will notice the substrates surface and the condensation around the fae holes will tell you if the density of poly needs adjusting.

If the sub is pinning i would increase fae (by reducing the poly in top or all holes)


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23636259 - 09/11/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like the description, but can you gauge anything off where my top holes stand on that scale? I doubt this info would help, but the holes are roughly 1.1" and that's 0.7g of poly, stuffed midway through the hole.



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636289 - 09/11/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks too tight. Fae is a pinning trigger remember so air moving through is a great thing,
Just not to the point of drying the substrate (less water to make mushrooms)


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23636323 - 09/11/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So maybe bottom 4 holes at that tightness and the top 2 half as loose?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636345 - 09/11/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds good. I also want to link you to this pictorial on poly stuffing.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23636354 - 09/11/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice pics! thanks for the tips man


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636363 - 09/11/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sure, welcome to shroomery :smile: :goodluck: on your grows


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23636382 - 09/11/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks! hoping I'm somewhat dialed-in now from the start! [:ringy-dingy:]



if anyone catches the EDIT: am I being paranoid thinking I should spray the exposed poly with isopropyl? or is that bordering on ridiculous?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23636772 - 09/11/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If your spawn was clean and you are using coir, or properly pasteurized poo you don't have anything to worry about, if it contaminates your spawn was bad from the start. The tub was spawned in open air with millions of contaminates landing on it, as said healthy myc is contam resistant. The poly isn't to keep out contams, some people have reused the same poly for years without cleaning it.

Also impossible to put into fruiting conditions too early, lots of people never tape holes and stuff with poly immediately after spawning.


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    #23636784 - 09/11/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

NICE, I like that info! What I plan on doing is just keeping a close eye on the condensation, and depending which direction it goes, I'll adjust accordingly. In the process of removing the tape, Id say about half water droplets on the lid rained down on the sub. But judging by last time that happened, it's where all the axon-like tendrils formed, and I just know those are good.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23637092 - 09/11/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, I almost shit my pants just now! I started FAE not even a couple hours ago, and all of a sudden I see this thin wispy looking thing, over 2" high. I'm thinking to myself, "No! - That's 1 of those stunted shroomies!".. But then upon closer inspection, I've come to the conclusion is a germinated grain of rye seed! What the hell?! This can't be THAT uncommon, right? RIGHT?!



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23637096 - 09/11/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23637108 - 09/11/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Would you eat it?! There's was probably 0.01g of myc that came up with the end of it!



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23637154 - 09/11/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hah no :lol:


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23637161 - 09/11/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK fine I'll save it then! hehe


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23637362 - 09/11/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looking at the tub right now, I can see that this lil guy has gotten even taller. Judging by the rye bean-sprout I pulled out though, I have a feeling that's what this is too, but still encapsulated in myc. Should I pull it out or just leave it be?



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23637736 - 09/12/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ehh just leave it, it shouldn't cause any problems


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23638580 - 09/12/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK alright, it still looks the same now, hasn't grown much more.

I plan on popping the lid off once in a while to supplement FAE, since my holes are on the small side. When I pop the lid off though, I dunno if it's just my perception, but I swear it smells like plant-life now. I don't see how that's possible though.

How many times a day is good to open it up, maybe 3?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23638956 - 09/12/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldnt bother. But yeah you could open it three times a day.
If you have that much time just start a new project.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: filthyknees]
    #23638969 - 09/12/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK ccool. Also 1 more thing, do you usually do anything when you see mini puddles of standing water around the edges? I'm talking about ones the size of a small round pill.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23639712 - 09/12/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Updated pic, anyone see any potential problems? I took it with no flash, so you can get a better interpretation of the color. I've switched things up a little though since I still see a nice amount of condensation. I have the type of tub that has 2 handles that "latch" closed. I obviously have had them closed up until now, but I've since unlatched them into the upward position. It brings the lid up about a mm over the tub, so it will aid in more FAE. I'm also seeing some spots of yellow/orange buildup, but that's normal from what I've read.



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23639881 - 09/12/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Any big pools of water you can carefully suck up with a paper towel, Sucks it up fast if you twist it into a wick shape and just touch the pool with it.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23639892 - 09/12/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK perfect! Because I did it yesterday with a little piece of toilet paper around the edges haha. I was surprised how much liquid came up (only did the wettest spots though). I felt like I had to, but I figure if's a small enough drop, it's nothing to worry about.

EDIT: can confirm things are lookin good!

EDIT II: just sopped up the mini puddles of juice, and it smells a lot more mycey!


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23641015 - 09/13/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Any big pools of water you can carefully suck up with a paper towel, Sucks it up fast if you twist it into a wick shape and just touch the pool with it.




sucking up the pools is a good idea? and how much would be too much pooling :P
i thought that pooling was okay aslong as the FAE goes up?

water evaporation=pinning?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: vikingleif]
    #23641038 - 09/13/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When you would consider it a pool of water instead of small droplets, IME small droplets will eventually evaporate but pools hang around not evaporating. best for pinning if surface is covered very fine beads.

In his pic, kind of blurry but just to the left of the top right polly I would consider that a small pool.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23641182 - 09/13/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When you would consider it a pool of water instead of small droplets, IME small droplets will eventually evaporate but pools hang around not evaporating. best for pinning if surface is covered very fine beads.

In his pic, kind of blurry but just to the left of the top right polly I would consider that a small pool.




ah ok
i have shit loads of pools but mixed feelings about removing it since i read both leave it as it is and remove it but no worries about it :P


but in my case mabye the pools aint my biggest problems xD


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: vikingleif]
    #23641311 - 09/13/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hopefully my thread can foster you some life-force!


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23641340 - 09/13/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hopefully my thread can foster you some life-force!




hehe sorry to post over your post ^^
im rooting for your tub m8 :laugh: hopefully the next pin will be a shroom and not a grain :P


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: vikingleif]
    #23642862 - 09/13/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like this 2nd rye-sprout was no match for the encrusting myc which encapsulates it. I've never seen anything like it - but I'm just a researcher, after all!



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23643906 - 09/14/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The sprouts come from random seeds in the brick of coir, Eco earth by any chance?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23643920 - 09/14/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh OK that's make a lot of sense, I think it was that brand actually. Here's a photo of my tub right now, do you think my sub is potentially getting too dry? I still see condensation on the lid, but the walls have dried up a good deal. I still see spots of glistening water droplets on the surface, but since I dried up the perimeter, I can tell it's just drier. Should I potentially mist?



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23643941 - 09/14/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks pretty good to me as is, if the beads of moisture completely evaporate in some spots and not others mist the dry spots only. But be careful it's easy to over mist, use a flashlight or lamp to help see the very fine glistening beads.  Don't pay much mind to condensation, it just shows a temp difference between the inside and outside.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23643944 - 09/14/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice, I appreciate it. Do you have an estimate on when pins may form? This is day 14 after spawning.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23643948 - 09/14/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hard to say, shouldn't be long. When you start seeing very tiny white balls covering the surface (knots) it's about to pin.


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23646043 - 09/14/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK cool. I misted not long after previous post (only 4 times with very fine droplets, in each corner). Here's a birds-eye view with flash, so the droplets are more visible. Good stuff?



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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23646052 - 09/14/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks good I'd open up the top poly for more fae speed up the process a bit


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23646059 - 09/14/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks!


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23646299 - 09/15/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quick question about the "open up the top poly". Did you mean to take the poly out completely and have the holes open?


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23646305 - 09/15/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can take it all the way out but i meant just pretty lose poly either way you will have to keep an eye on the surface it dries up alot quicker


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23646314 - 09/15/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK cool. I see exactly what you mean now, because the corners started to evaporate afterwards. I gave another light misting and tightened it up a little bit.

I've heard how evaporation on the sub surface is a pinning trigger, so is it potentially a good thing to have to mist a few times a day? Or could it possibly be risky as far as introducing contams? Thanks for the tips. -Tim


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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
    #23646327 - 09/15/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well it should bead on its own i notice with mine i have to mist once or twice then it keeps the beads for a few days but ya evaporation is the main pinning trigger which is why if you dont use a liner you get more side pins ... that pic is really what you want i wouldnt over mist causing pools but if you could keep it how it looks thats what you want


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