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rjstim
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Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions
#23634441 - 09/11/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all, this tub has been colonising for 11 days. Do you think it's ready for fruiting conditions yet? The holes might of been put too high though, because I didnt have enough spawn to go higher. There is 2 more up higher on the sides to (6 in all though). Once I put polyfill in the holes, do you think I should open it up at all during the day, to give it even more FAE? Thanks for any tips! -Tim
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634451 - 09/11/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pic?
If the surface looks colonized you can put it in fruiting. It wont hurt anything if you fruit it before its fully colonized.
To give your tub more FAE you loosen the bottom polyfil. You have to learn to read the tub to dial it in proper. Look at the surface, it should have a constant layer of tiny water droplets (ignore the walls, condensation fluctuates with the temperature changes throughout the day).
The droplets on the surface should start to dry up near to the bottom polyfill. This shows that if you loosen the poly anymore the sub will start to dry out. Its all about finding a balance , you want the max FAE you can give without drying out the tub.
Good luck!
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
#23634455 - 09/11/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had to edit to add the pic, sorry about that! The bottom holes ended up being an inch and a half above the sub. The 1's on the side are up higher, about an inch and a half below the lid.
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634474 - 09/11/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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How big are the holes though, they look kinda smAll hard to see though.
That sub is definetly ready for fruiting, I see knots forming. Should start to pin in a few days
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
#23634505 - 09/11/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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EDIT: The holes are a tiny bit bigger than an inch, but the tub is only 38 quart I think. I estimated there to be almost 9 quart of material in there, (3 quart spawn + at least 5.5 quart bulk sub.) I might have even less though, because when I weighed everything it was only 7.2 pounds total, and the tub itself can't weigh more than the .2
Edited by rjstim (09/11/16 01:37 AM)
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634603 - 09/11/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would drill out bigger holes if I were you, Maybe 2 " or so
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
#23634614 - 09/11/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do you think the easiest way to do it now is? I don't have a drill either personally. I did the 6 on there by starting small holes out with a screw, and then boring them out with a pair of scissors. Any MacGuyver methods to go bigger that you know of?
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634617 - 09/11/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can heat something round up on the stove and melt thru
For still air boxes people sometimes heat coffee cans and melt s hole thru
Easiest is to just borrow a drill and get a 2" bit
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: mushpunx]
#23634732 - 09/11/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I realised I can heat a spoon up which would give me 1 5/8", how's about that, do I *need to go bigger?
Any shot at me possibly getting by on this grow without doing it before though? And maybe keeping the poly looser than normal, and opening it up to mist/fan a few times a day? -Tim
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634775 - 09/11/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't really see the point in messing with the tub at this stage. For this tub, I would just stuff the bottom holes tightly with polyfill, and keep the top holes very, very loose to maximize FAE.
You may also want to consider running a small fan at the opposite end of the room, pointed away from the tub, to keep the air circulating in your grow room.
Definitely for your next tubs, aim for a 1 1/4" hole size using a hole saw attachment for a drill. Easiest way to do it IMO.
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23634844 - 09/11/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tips, I like the sound of that. For fruiting I plan on putting the tub below my bright fluorescent bulbs (on about 12 hrs a day.) In this position they'd also be about 5 feet below a ceiling fan that's on low, in reverse. I think it will generate moving air around the tub, while not blowing directly at it. I don't know how advisable it is though, as far air currents are concerned, but I'll play it by ear.
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634879 - 09/11/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like it could work well. Just make sure to keep an eye on the surface. If it dries out a bit too much, don't be afraid to give it a good misting. Surface evaporation is a major pinning trigger
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23634891 - 09/11/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice! I planned on going to Wally World later, and I'm gonna buy the poly. Is there anything in particular I should be looking for? I'm looking to spend as little as possible. haha
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634899 - 09/11/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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A spray bottle (if you don't already have one). Maybe some more quart jars? That's all I can think of lol
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634901 - 09/11/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you can, I would invest in a drill. Not just for mycology work, but for just any project in general. Out of all my tools the drill is the most essential. I can't really do any project without it. Maybe try a pawn shop for a used one.
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: X2QE]
#23634907 - 09/11/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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For the poly itself though is there a specific type that's cheap? I don't want to buy a big bag of the stuff or anything.
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634915 - 09/11/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have found two types of polyfill in stores, but I highly recommend sticking to the bottom bag, it allows the right amount of FAE (depends on how tightly you stuff them tho, obviously)

I've tried the extra loft brand, but it always seems like it doesn't allow any FAE to pass through the tubs, it's just wayy too thick
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23634922 - 09/11/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great, I'll look for it!
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: rjstim]
#23634940 - 09/11/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is my tub ready for fruiting conditions [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23635510 - 09/11/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been thinking, and I'm wondering that since my holes are only 1.1" at most, would I be able to get away with cutting an incision in my pillow, and taking some of the filling out? If contams would be an issue, I could boil it in water first, and then air dry. Thoughts?
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