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Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol?
    #23633100 - 09/10/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was wondering if lemon cologne (such as this one) could be used when cleaning tools and surfaces, instead of iso alcohol.  It's 80% alcohol with lemon fragarance in it and it's really cheap and easy to find around here.  What do you think?


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633109 - 09/10/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Anything with alcohol in it works really.  Though I'd prefer my work surfaces to evaporate dry instead of leaving behind chemicals (like the ones that make your stuff smell good)

But it would work.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23633139 - 09/10/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's just alcohol, distilled water and lemon essence.  Lemon essence wouldn't hurt I guess.

I prefer regular iso alcohol too but I had so many people asking me this lately, I finally decided to learn and have the answer for them .)

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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633146 - 09/10/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't have any experience with it or anything, but it sounds like it would work just fine.m to disinfect surfaces with. 

Just remember that you need to sterilize inoculation tools.  Alcohol ain't gonna do the trich. 

The trich.  Haha. Made a funny.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23633198 - 09/10/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:aweohyou: Good one.

what do you mean by inoculation tools? Like syringes and scalpels?


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633209 - 09/10/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes.  Always flame those.  Never use alcohol to sterilize because it isn't reliable.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23633223 - 09/10/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes.  Always flame those.  Never use alcohol to sterilize because it isn't reliable.




Ofc I always flame sterilize my syringes before inoculation, and will flame sterilize my scalpel when I (hopefully) see some growth in my agar plates .)


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633240 - 09/10/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What's the point just use 70% iso the 70% is important as it sterilizes better


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23633244 - 09/10/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't sterilize at all actually. and while 70% works great 80% does too


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23633249 - 09/10/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What's the point just use 70% iso the 70% is important as it sterilizes better




you mean 70% alcohol works better than 80% alcohol?


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633250 - 09/10/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23633252 - 09/10/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry I ment sanitize:whip:


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23633256 - 09/10/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

how does that work?


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633274 - 09/10/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Rate of evaporation 70% evaps slower so has longer to work


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23633283 - 09/10/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't know that.

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right? .)


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira]
    #23633291 - 09/10/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Didn't know that.

:themoreyouknow:

right? .)





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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23633306 - 09/10/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

not just that but I think it penetrates the bacterial cell walls better as it tricks it into thinking it is water.

well that info may be slightly off and outdated but that's what I remember

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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23633313 - 09/10/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it's not evaporation rate. it's an osmotic thing. with too high % alcohol the cells don't even take it in. it has to be diluted enough (under 80%) to be effective against a wide range of things.

you can make 70% out of 91% just add 30% water. so if you have 500mL of 91% add 150mL h2o and you have 70%.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23633372 - 09/10/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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it's not evaporation rate. it's an osmotic thing. with too high % alcohol the cells don't even take it in. it has to be diluted enough (under 80%) to be effective against a wide range of things.

you can make 70% out of 91% just add 30% water. so if you have 500mL of 91% add 150mL h2o and you have 70%.



I thought 70% is recommended because the water content lengthens the evaporation time and gives the alcohol more time to penetrate the cell walls and be effective.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23633395 - 09/10/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

evaporation is secondary to it's ability to actually do its job.


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23633548 - 09/10/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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it's not evaporation rate. it's an osmotic thing. with too high % alcohol the cells don't even take it in.




and what about an extra ingredient? like lemon essence? will it affect effectiveness?


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Re: Using lemon cologne instead of alcohol? [Re: Tira] * 1
    #23639662 - 09/12/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

natural lemon oil has disinfectant properties of it's own so it could be beneficial to have it in the mix. just make sure that the product you're getting has actual lemon oil and not just some chemical that smells like lemon. citrus oils can be a bit caustic though, they make a paint stripper out of orange oil, so it would probably be good to avoid leaving any residue behind. here's a basic recipe to make this yourself and some other uses for it: http://www.liverenewed.com/2013/08/green-cleaning-with-lemon-essential-oil-green-in-365.html


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