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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23635868 - 09/11/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The website i checked said they use a nicotine alternative :/





most companies I'm familiar with simply omit the nicotine. I'd be very wary of an undisclosed additive


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23635878 - 09/11/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The brand is called 'Detab'.





it's chinese juice. avoid it like the plague. there's plenty of juice vendors in the
UK that make custom, premium juices that will be 100x better


here's a starting point and if you have a few shops local to you, go in and look
into what they have, most have samples you can try to make sure you get something
you like

http://ecigsuk.org.uk/best-e-liquid-uk/




Having just checked, the label reads 'Made in the EU'...





I did more checking and this is still highly suspect

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/manufacturing


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23635921 - 09/11/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Duncan Rowhl said:
Yep, it's certainly possible. :thumbup:



The website i checked said they use a nicotine alternative :/




Here's the label.



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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23635935 - 09/11/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Duncan Rowhl said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Duncan Rowhl said:
The brand is called 'Detab'.





it's chinese juice. avoid it like the plague. there's plenty of juice vendors in the
UK that make custom, premium juices that will be 100x better


here's a starting point and if you have a few shops local to you, go in and look
into what they have, most have samples you can try to make sure you get something
you like

http://ecigsuk.org.uk/best-e-liquid-uk/




Having just checked, the label reads 'Made in the EU'...





I did more checking and this is still highly suspect

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/manufacturing




There's also mention of a 'secret formula' here...

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/detab

That could suggest anything simple though like a ratio of additives.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23636031 - 09/11/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You may be allergic or have a bad reaction to one of the ingredients in your juice. Propylene glycol is an ingredient that people are often allergic to. Try VG only juices. If there was no nicotine in your juice, this should be the only reason you would have a sped up heart that I can think of.

I developed an allergy to PG after a couple years of vaping. Prompted me to quit vaping and smoking altogether since all my favorite juices were made with it.




What were the side effects you experienced?

Whilst I've been tempted just to leave it alone, I'm going to give it another try with the following precautions:

* Bin the old vape pen (which will have traces of PG still in it) and bought a new one.
* Bought 10ml food grade vegetable glycerol.
* Test before sleep to be able to slep off any ill effects.
* Test with a few no inhales. single inhale, then a few inhales, monitoring results between.
* All being well, hopefully adding in some peppermint concentrate to the VG to seal the deal.


I never imagined I'd be drawing out an action plan to enter the world of vaping, yet there it is. :grin:

It's an addition I'm keen to introduce to Friday's.




There's no need to toss a vape pen, you can clean out the parts with water and replace the coil. I don't know what kind of pens you're using, but the atomizers, or coils in the tanks are replaceable or should be. If you're using cheap disposable vapes, you should really invest in a nicer one as the disposable ones are garbage, typically made in china, and filled with who knows what. This is a good starting vape:

http://vapenw.com/vaporesso-target-2-vtc-75w-kit


On to symptoms I was experiencing. I had minor swelling of the throat and headaches. Pretty consistently whilst vaping. Most allergies are caused by exposure, so I think I just finally developed one. Not sure if it was an actual allergy or just another type of reaction however.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23636036 - 09/11/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

After reading about the nicotine alternative though, I'd say that's the cause of your heart palpitations before anything else. For sure.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23636060 - 09/11/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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PatrickKn said:
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Duncan Rowhl said:
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PatrickKn said:
You may be allergic or have a bad reaction to one of the ingredients in your juice. Propylene glycol is an ingredient that people are often allergic to. Try VG only juices. If there was no nicotine in your juice, this should be the only reason you would have a sped up heart that I can think of.

I developed an allergy to PG after a couple years of vaping. Prompted me to quit vaping and smoking altogether since all my favorite juices were made with it.




What were the side effects you experienced?

Whilst I've been tempted just to leave it alone, I'm going to give it another try with the following precautions:

* Bin the old vape pen (which will have traces of PG still in it) and bought a new one.
* Bought 10ml food grade vegetable glycerol.
* Test before sleep to be able to slep off any ill effects.
* Test with a few no inhales. single inhale, then a few inhales, monitoring results between.
* All being well, hopefully adding in some peppermint concentrate to the VG to seal the deal.


I never imagined I'd be drawing out an action plan to enter the world of vaping, yet there it is. :grin:

It's an addition I'm keen to introduce to Friday's.




There's no need to toss a vape pen, you can clean out the parts with water and replace the coil. I don't know what kind of pens you're using, but the atomizers, or coils in the tanks are replaceable or should be. If you're using cheap disposable vapes, you should really invest in a nicer one as the disposable ones are garbage, typically made in china, and filled with who knows what. This is a good starting vape:

http://vapenw.com/vaporesso-target-2-vtc-75w-kit


On to symptoms I was experiencing. I had minor swelling of the throat and headaches. Pretty consistently whilst vaping. Most allergies are caused by exposure, so I think I just finally developed one. Not sure if it was an actual allergy or just another type of reaction however.




I was using a Zeltu Lite. £8.

I can still feeling the effects from yesterday though it's now minor, so don't want the smallest amount being inhaled, hence the idea just to bin it.

I didn't want to take the plunge on a more expensive vape unail I tested the water but it looks like I tested in dark water.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23643994 - 09/14/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've been test vaping raw VG in the new pen for the past 15 mins and it's absolutely fine.

It's definately something to do with the nicotine substitute in the last juice.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
    #23644049 - 09/14/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

my mod burned out after ripping some dank clouds. runnin hella ohms man. whats up


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: 1234go]
    #23644062 - 09/14/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive never had a problem with my kbox 40w mod..Ive used it for a year or so now. I have had problems with it shorting out, but their dirt cheap..

I actually been vaping for 2-3 years now, started with 18mg juice, worked into 36mg very quickly. Smoked on that for 2+ years. I realized what was going on, and i cut it back bigtime. My next order I did 18mg, a few weeks later, i had one 18mg, and the rest 6mg. The next order after that, i had 1/2 6mg and 1/2 0mg. I have been up and down last month on how much I need. If I mix it to be 3mg nicotine, I have to hit my mod like crazy every half hour.

Working on it, I was easily set off the first couple times, now at 6mg or less, i am a-okay. I try to mix them 1/2 and 1/2. I think its more of a hobby, but never had issues like yours. I have had juice that tasted like sugar, or too sweet for my liking. I like the fruity flavors.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: LSDollar]
    #23644077 - 09/14/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

shit bro i only started like 2 months ago and i burned this shit out, aint no one ever been able 2 match my clouds tho
i dont try to smoke harder but it just my nature i guess lol


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: 1234go]
    #23644085 - 09/14/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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shit bro i only started like 2 months ago and i burned this shit out, aint no one ever been able 2 match my clouds tho
i dont try to smoke harder but it just my nature i guess lol



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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23644097 - 09/14/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

my homeboy didnt believe me either til i showed him.
i dont have it with me or id show you


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23644110 - 09/14/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

On topic first:
what do you guys mean by nicotine substitute? Are you guys getting juice with something other than vg,pg and nic? Confused.

Off topic kinda:
I gotta assume you guys are running rda's right?

How do y'alls like to wick your shit?
Like a slow heating coil I like to keep the cotton pretty loose(like fluffy and not all rolled up) but I pack it into the coil pretty well so that it holds enough juice to not burn with the longer cool down time of a higher resistance build.

I don't like coils to heat up quickly because it always gives the vape a slightly...off taste...like toasty I guess lol.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
    #23644242 - 09/14/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: 1234go]
    #23644520 - 09/14/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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1234go said:
my mod burned out after ripping some dank clouds. runnin hella ohms man. whats up




Whatever you mean, it sounds good and looks like you are enjoying yourself.

A fantastic day to you Sir. :thumbup:


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: 1234go]
    #23644552 - 09/14/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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my homeboy didnt believe me either til i showed him.
i dont have it with me or id show you



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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23644567 - 09/14/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like making my juice, have been for a couple years now.

I researched and found the best vg and all vg based nicotine I could find, I do the flavors I've found are almost always pg based, but it works out as I do a 80/20 ratio, and I prefer 20% flavor.  Costs me about a dollar or so per 30 ml bottle, and I know what's in it.

I've gotten bad nicotine before, ripped my throat up and made me feel sickish.  In the pro made ones, there are up to like 20 different things added, sweetener boosters, sour boosters (I use fresh lemon juice) alcohol, on top of the flavors themselves, that's why I just make my own.

Suicide Bunny makes some legit vape juice, bit it's stupid expensive


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23644577 - 09/14/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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vape makes me sick too.  I don't know why, but I don't like the feeling.  I've quit smoking the past few days but vaping could never compare to me.  It feels wrong and doesn't have that smoky flavor.



I'm now at the point where the smell and taste of cigarettes disgusts me. I forgot my vape once when I went out of town and tried smoking a cig to quench my nic cravings and it was awful. Id much rather taste Strawberry strudel while inhaling nicotine than tobacco. In this sense it also doubles a sweets craving quencher. I don't have to eat sweets so much because my vape tastes sweet.


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Re: To the Vapers.. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23644579 - 09/14/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

im a vape noob, got it as a gift and i dont know the components yet. im learning!
wishin i could chuck clouds right now! lol. you ever been in one of those cloud blowing competition?


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