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What's wrong with these people? Anyone who supports this needs to be culled, pronto.
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4-YEAR-OLD APPROVED FOR SEX CHANGE, GENDER REASSIGNMENT OPERATION TO BE CONDUCTED IN AUSTRALIA
SEPTEMBER 3, 2016 Essel Pratt The Department of Education in New South Wales has vowed to support a 4-year-old’s decision to undergo a sex change operation. The child is expected to finish the gender reassignment surgery prior to starting kindergarten next year and will travel to Australia to complete the procedure.
Although the child has the full support of the Department of Education, many are concerned that the child is not mature enough to make the decision at such a young age. Psychologists warn that the child is still in the crucial stages of development and that forcing a change in gender may cause unknown harm, both physically and mentally, according to Metro. Transgender advocates have also voiced concern that the child is far too young to make such a life-changing decision.
Catherine McGregor, one such advocate, wonders why the young child is receiving official policy support from the Department of Education. She feels that the child usually knows best in this type of situation but also warns of caution since the procedure is irreversible.
“I would have thought four is pretty young for any official policy support.”
The New South Wales Department of Education is an advocate for the sex change, claiming that the safe schools initiative aims to help transgender children feel safe and comfortable in the school systems, according to the Daily Mail. Greg Prior, the secretary of school operations, claims that there are a small handful of children that are in the midst of transitioning. However, he states that the 4-year-old is the youngest of the bunch.
Due to privacy issues, the birth sex of the child has not been revealed.
A gender dysphoria unit in the Westmead Children’s Hospital in Syndey, Australia, is taking on the case and will assist the child during the transition. They have claimed that the number of children who have been referred to their gender service department has tripled recently. Nearly 250 children have appointments at this time, the youngest being 3. Only 10 years ago, there was only one child on their books.
Child Psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg states that the child typically understands his or her own feelings better than the adults that surround him or her and claims that the child knows the difference between dressing as the opposite sex or actually feeling like he or she is the opposite sex.
“There is a huge difference between dress-ups and a child believing with every fibre of their being they are in the wrong body.”
Many have responded to the child’s decision to undergo a sex change by claiming 4-year-olds are simply too young to make such a decision. Many are comfortable with the child dressing in opposite gender labeled clothing yet feel such a drastic decision should wait until the child is much older or until he or she has a better understanding of how the procedure works and the implications of undergoing the surgery, such as the inability to have children.
An unnamed individual from the United Kingdom believes the minimum age to make such a decision should be 16, allowing time to understand the consequences of transitioning to the opposite sex.
“Kids that are far too young to have thought through the consequences are being allowed to make life changing decisions. Personally I would suggest a minimum age of sixteen.” Bethany Powell, a transgender individual, is not in agreement that the child should undergo the sex change operation, claiming that gender is not clear to such a young child. She wonders if the child may even grow out of the phase. As a transgender herself, she is an advocate for gender reassignment surgery. However, a 4-year-old is too young to be fully aware of his or her body, she states.
“At four years old gender isn’t very clear for them and may even be something they will grow out of, getting Gender Reassignment Surgery at such a young age may not be the best idea-especially if it turns out they now feel more comfortable as their birth gender.” What are your thoughts? Is 4-years-old too young?
http://www.inquisitr.com/3480381/4-year-old-approved-for-sex-change-gender-reassignment-operation-to-be-conducted-in-australia/
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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At least he'd probably end up with an actual girly voice
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i remember when one of my sisters was around 4-5 she went through a period of saying she wishes she was a boy, she got over it in a few months and went onto live as a happy, healthy, girly-girl. her life wouldve taken a really odd turn if she stapled dicks to her tits at 4 years
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
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Yeah, I think a lot of people go through a phase like that.
Especially if they're raised predominantly by that same gender they feel they're more in touch with.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: desant]
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that kid is probably gonna kill itself before finishing middle school
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sanguin3]
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He's 4 years old, he's not a baby
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The kid is way the fuck to young to make a decision like that. It's child abuse at that point. Fuck the doctor that agreed to do it, fuck the parents for being retarded, fuck Australia's department of education for being idiotic, and fuck everyone else for letting it get this far.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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I don't get why they keep mentioning the "support" of the department of education. What the fuck does it matter what they think about it?
Also, is this definitely a real news story and not one of those fake troll ones?
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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It is the parents who probs are forcing the kid to be a tranny.
THey have to face that name calling forever.
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Now all they need is a show on TLC and they will have officially fucked up that kids life
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: falsereality]
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falsereality said: The kid is way the fuck to young to make a decision like that. It's child abuse at that point. Fuck the doctor that agreed to do it, fuck the parents for being retarded, fuck Australia's department of education for being idiotic, and fuck everyone else for letting it get this far.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: psi]
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psi said: I don't get why they keep mentioning the "support" of the department of education. What the fuck does it matter what they think about it?
Also, is this definitely a real news story and not one of those fake troll ones?
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/32501729/child-4-in-sex-change-bid-as-government-reveals-hundreds-of-kids-seeking-gender-reassignment/#page1
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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Im hoping this isnt a real story.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: PartoftheSource]
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If they outlaw cigarettes at age 18(or 21 in the case of California) In the same country that doesn't allow gay marriage
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I think the article says Austrailia and not the United States. The US wouls never let that happen.
Also, - I didnt know the law was you had to be 21 to buy ciggs in California? I thought that was just liquor...
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: PartoftheSource]
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Nope they just changed it here in California.Doesn't affect me much as I'm 22 and really don't smoke often . Australia is the country without gay marriage I was referring too.
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They also banned all online sales of the nicotine vape liquids . My best friend is pissed
Also apparently the "mod builders" aren't allowed to build someone a mod in the shop,effectively firing every builder in California.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen] 2
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Fucking disgusting. This world is going to hell
In a previous thread, our one and only sopher supported this exact thing.
Just so wrong on so many levels
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Whut? So an 18 year old man from California can register to vote, enlist in the military and die for his country but can't have a drink or a smoke?
And why are they hating on the vape liquids? I thought it was supposed to be some healthy alternative and socially acceptable...
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: PartoftheSource]
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PartoftheSource said: Whut? So an 18 year old man from California can register to vote, enlist in the military and die for his country but can't have a drink or a smoke?
And why are they hating on the vape liquids? I thought it was supposed to be some healthy alternative and socially acceptable...
Exactly and I really don't know except California has had a stick up its ass about nicotine for a while and when people started switching from cigs to vape this law was introduced. A lot of my friends say it's a move by big tabacco in the Balloting of California. Playing on people's fears that this is just another way to get people hooked on nicotine . Which is a little ridiculous, considering that the majority of bad things associated with cigarette smoking are the 7 thousand carcinogens in them. Let's put it this way I'm actually happy that my friends switched over to vape. Makes me sleep a little sounder at night so speak.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Masked]
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Masked said: Fucking disgusting. This world is going to hell
In a previous thread, our one and only sopher supported this exact thing.
Just so wrong on so many levels 
Soph supported 4 YOs getting sex changes? Link?
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PartoftheSource said: Whut? So an 18 year old man from California can register to vote, enlist in the military and die for his country but can't have a drink or a smoke?
And why are they hating on the vape liquids? I thought it was supposed to be some healthy alternative and socially acceptable...
Exactly and I really don't know .
Big tobacco lobbying $$$ is my guess
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said: i remember when one of my sisters was around 4-5 she went through a period of saying she wishes she was a boy, she got over it in a few months and went onto live as a happy, healthy, girly-girl. her life wouldve taken a really odd turn if she stapled dicks to her tits at 4 years
I went through a phase like that, my mom tried to fight it by dressing me up in these really frilly, absurd-looking princess dresses. I'd just come home with mud all over them from wrestling with boys. I'm not sure how my life would have turned out had I switched genders. I probably would have liked it as a kid, but who knows how I would have felt about it as a teen.
Just think about it, if she was approved by the time she was 4, it means she must have been saying she wants to be a boy or girl at least since she was 3.
Who the hell listens to a goddamn word any 3 year old says seriously?
For years I also said I wanted to be a pony too.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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Hobozen said:
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Masked said: Fucking disgusting. This world is going to hell
In a previous thread, our one and only sopher supported this exact thing.
Just so wrong on so many levels 
Soph supported 4 YOs getting sex changes? Link?
We had a huge thread on transgender children.
Soph made an entry with "I feel the earlier they transition the better"
It started on this page
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21911346#21911346
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
#23633580 - 09/10/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: her life wouldve taken a really odd turn if she stapled dicks to her tits at 4 years
Lol
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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I'm not in favor, 4 is way to young.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: TNK]
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If anything, questioning gender is kinda irrelevant until you start to mature in your body and hit puberty.
My guess is that this whole thing will become socially acceptable on almost all fronts and will have the stigma of plastic surgery or something similar; who knows by 2050 we could have people who switch their gender twice in a lifetime.
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21st century ideology:
-Women cannot consent to sex after a beer
-a 4 year old can consent to a genital mutiliation surgery with full support of the state
This world is fucked
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: luvdemboomers]
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luvdemboomers said: 21st century ideology:
-Women cannot consent to sex after a beer
-a 4 year old can consent to a genital mutiliation surgery with full support of the state
This world is fucked
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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ridiculous
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luvdemboomers said: 21st century ideology:
-Women cannot consent to sex after a beer
-a 4 year old can consent to a genital mutiliation surgery with full support of the state
This world is fucked
it's not that women can't consent, it's that after a beer they then are granted the option to claim rape in a legal court room even if they consented. after all, women don't lie, and all men rape and pillage
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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My question(and maybe I'm just stupid, forgive me) is this:
If your sex doesn't determine your gender, why the need to change your sex?
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
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MrBlueYoMind said: My question(and maybe I'm just stupid, forgive me) is this:
If your sex doesn't determine your gender, why the need to change your sex?
because it's the new trend and/or people are idiots
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MrBlueYoMind said: My question(and maybe I'm just stupid, forgive me) is this:
If your sex doesn't determine your gender, why the need to change your sex?
because it's the new trend and/or people are idiots
Or because people spent their entire life feeling like they were born in the wrong body & want to feel happy with themselves
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Masked said:
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Hobozen said:
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Masked said: Fucking disgusting. This world is going to hell
In a previous thread, our one and only sopher supported this exact thing.
Just so wrong on so many levels 
Soph supported 4 YOs getting sex changes? Link?
We had a huge thread on transgender children.
Soph made an entry with "I feel the earlier they transition the better"
It started on this page
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21911346#21911346
I was always kind to soph despite her hatred towards me for my worldview, but this is the last straw.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
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MrBlueYoMind said: My question(and maybe I'm just stupid, forgive me) is this:
If your sex doesn't determine your gender, why the need to change your sex?
because it's the new trend and/or people are idiots
Or because people spent their entire life feeling like they were born in the wrong body & want to feel happy with themselves
i'm in the wrong body, but it has nothing to do with sex or gender. so as crystal g briefly touched on, i'd like to find a doctor who will change my species. otherwise, you're all discriminating against me
also, a four year old hasn't spent their entire life thinking they were born in the wrong body. at best half it's life, as up until two or three, one is barely fully cognizant of their body and its expressions
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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If your sex doesn't determine your gender, why the need to change your sex?
because it's the new trend and/or people are idiots
Or because people spent their entire life feeling like they were born in the wrong body & want to feel happy with themselves
i'm in the wrong body, but it has nothing to do with sex or gender. so as crystal g briefly touched on, i'd like to find a doctor who will change my species. otherwise, you're all discriminating against me
also, a four year old hasn't spent their entire life thinking they were born in the wrong body. at best half it's life, as up until two or three, one is barely fully cognizant of their body and its expressions
i never said anything about the 4 year old. the question mrblueyomind asked had nothing to do with the 4 year old's case in specific
LOL @ your buthrt over trans people
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
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also, a four year old hasn't spent their entire life thinking they were born in the wrong body. at best half it's life, as up until two or three, one is barely fully cognizant of their body and its expressions
i never said anything about the 4 year old. the question mrblueyomind asked had nothing to do with the 4 year old's case in specific
LOL @ your buthrt over trans people

no butthurts, sheekle. i think sex-changes/hormone therapy are as asinine as people dying their hair, getting plugs or cosmetic surgery, fake nails/eyelashes
people should try working through their emotional self-issues before altering themselves and/or accepting themselves for whom/what they are, imo
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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Last I checked, people dye their hair for fun, not because of some insecurity.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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also, a four year old hasn't spent their entire life thinking they were born in the wrong body. at best half it's life, as up until two or three, one is barely fully cognizant of their body and its expressions
i never said anything about the 4 year old. the question mrblueyomind asked had nothing to do with the 4 year old's case in specific
LOL @ your buthrt over trans people

no butthurts, sheekle. i think sex-changes/hormone therapy are as asinine as people dying their hair, getting plugs or cosmetic surgery, fake nails/eyelashes
people should try working through their emotional self-issues before altering themselves and/or accepting themselves for whom/what they are, imo
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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I just find it interesting that so many people were against Rachel Dolezal because she tried to change her race. Where do we draw the line at what is appropriate body modification?
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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we've encountered very different people in our lives, then
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I just find it interesting that so many people were against Rachel Dolezal because she tried to change her race. Where do we draw the line at what is appropriate body modification?
appropriate and inappropriate are irrelevant terms, here. the fact that a majority or minority of people feel their views on how to live are more right than any others seems, to me, a large part of the psychology behind any sort of bodily modifications.
it's kind of like why is getting a piercing, for many people, an act of rebellion? because someone in an authoritative place told them it was wrong
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Sheekle]
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Yeah, I'm glad my mistakes were reversible
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None of the minority is saying their lives are more right. They are simply saying that they want to be accepted for how they are. You are actually the one that has a viewpoint on how to live your life the "right" way.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen] 2
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The kid could just dress and take on the behavior of their chosen gender, this is crazy.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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None of the minority is saying their lives are more right. They are simply saying that they want to be accepted for how they are. You are actually the one that has a viewpoint on how to live your life the "right" way.
i know a large minority that think their way of life is the "right" way
they are preachy and barely tolearble
again, i think you and i know encounter very different people. you are involved in city-life, which is drastically different from rural-life
i do agree that 'you (or the first-person) are the one that has a viewpoint on how to live your life the "right" way.'
fuck everyone else so long as one is not harming others, physically or to a slightly lesser degree, emotionally
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89]
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I don't know why this isn't an option, he or she has almost a decade before puberty even hits. Before puberty hits, boys can easily pass off as girls, and visa versa. Plenty of time and years to reconsider and think about whether sex reassignment surgery is for you.
I mean once you have the surgery, it's permanent. Even if it's irreversible, you're doing permanent damage to your genitals, and there's a strong likelihood you might not be able to have children anymore. Even teenagers regret tattoos.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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I don't know why this isn't an option, he or she has almost a decade before puberty even hits. Plenty of time to reconsider and think about whether sex reassignment surgery is for you.
I mean once you have the surgery, it's permanent. Even if it's irreversible, you're doing permanent damage to your genitals, and you might not be able to have children anymore. Even teenagers regret tattoos.
granted, surgery wasn't available in their time, but this is the way, historically, native americans and many other tribal cultures treated their "trans-gender" members. they dressed and took on roles of the "gender" they felt they were
for anyone that isn't aware, "trans-gender" mentalities are prevalent throughout human history
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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I don't know why this isn't an option, he or she has almost a decade before puberty even hits. Plenty of time to reconsider and think about whether sex reassignment surgery is for you.
I mean once you have the surgery, it's permanent. Even if it's irreversible, you're doing permanent damage to your genitals, and you might not be able to have children anymore. Even teenagers regret tattoos.
Well, I hit puberty around 9yr old, so that would be half a decade.
Still, 4 is far too young, if they're even allowed to do something like this under 18, they should have to sign consent forms every year for 5 or more years. That's a stretch.
BTW I think you would have made a good FTM  Not saying that to be insulting in any way
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Hobozen]
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Insanity
Disgusting
This shit has gone too far
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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I wonder what compelled the parents of a 4-year old to opt for sex reassignment surgery?
I mean, I remember watching a documentary about Jazz, the transgender girl who was maybe 7 or 8 when she underwent hormone therapy.
At first I thought, "7, that's a little young for hormone therapy isn't it?" Back then, she was the youngest person to have undergone this treatment in the USA.
But then I learned that the turning point for her parents was when they caught her in the shower with a pair of scissors, sobbing, I guess she was getting ready to slice her penis off or something. 
After hearing that, I can see why her situation was a bit more serious, and why her parents moved to placate her desires.
Here's her appearance on 20/20, for anybody who's interested:
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89] 1
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BTW I think you would have made a good FTM  Not saying that to be insulting in any way
I actually think I would have too
In fact, every now and then, especially when I was going through my roids phase, I thought extensively about whether to transition fully to FTM, maybe later on in my 40's. I already have the square jaw, I have a husky masculine voice, and high cheekbones, I think I'd make a pretty decent-looking guy.
The only thing I have going against me is that I'm short. 5'5" is not a good look for a man, even with big muscles.
My main worry though, would be transitioning, only to discover that I end up a really ugly man. I mean, I don't want to go through all that only to realize that I end up looking like one of those fugly ass dudes, that would suck. And I wouldn't be able to revert back to a woman after that, because my jaw structure has completely changed after hormone therapy, I'd end up looking like a butch woman for the rest of my life.
In reality though I'd probably get tons of plastic surgery first before I consider gender reassignment surgery. I mean, if I have all that money to change my looks, I'd probably go one direction first before I went the other.
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BTW I think you would have made a good FTM  Not saying that to be insulting in any way
I actually think I would have too
In fact, every now and then, especially when I was going through my roids phase, I thought extensively about whether to transition fully to FTM, maybe later on in my 40's. I already have the square jaw, I have a husky masculine voice, and high cheekbones, I think I'd make a pretty decent-looking guy.
The only thing I have going against me is that I'm short. 5'5" is not a good look for a man, even with big muscles.
My main worry though, would be transitioning, only to discover that I end up a really ugly man. I mean, I don't want to go through all that only to realize that I end up looking like one of those fugly ass dudes, that would suck. And I wouldn't be able to revert back to a woman after that, because my jaw structure has completely changed after hormone therapy, I'd end up looking like a butch woman for the rest of my life.
In reality though I'd probably get tons of plastic surgery first before I consider gender reassignment surgery. I mean, if I have all that money to change my looks, I'd probably go one direction first before I went the other.
why even a joking desire for physical change? what is wrong with YOU that warrants change?
i think we, as a culture, need intense psychological examination of this issue
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demiu5 said: i'm in the wrong body, but it has nothing to do with sex or gender. so as crystal g briefly touched on, i'd like to find a doctor who will change my species. otherwise, you're all discriminating against me
I just find it interesting that so many people were against Rachel Dolezal because she tried to change her race. Where do we draw the line at what is appropriate body modification?
Well Jackson turned white, and was accepted.
She tried to turn black and it ruined her career.
Interesting it is.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: TNK]
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i think we, as a culture, need intense psychological examination of this issue
Sorry, but you just have to admit, that better-looking people have it easier in life... in all aspects of the game. 
Attractive people are more likely to be hired for jobs, they tend to do better in sales and service jobs and in politics, somebody on the street is more likely to help you if you're attractive and in trouble, beautiful people are less likely to be sentenced to jail, they're less likely to be cited by the police, and they also find more attractive, sexier, and wealthier partners.
Who wouldn't want to be attractive with all the perks that come with it?
Oh man, if I had all the money in the world, I'd shave my jawline, butcher my nose, get injections in my lips, and maybe even consider doing something with the eyes. I'd get a brazilian butt lift and probably C cup implants. I'd end up like Heidi Montag after her 20 operations.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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demiu5 said: why even a joking desire for physical change? what is wrong with YOU that warrants change?
i think we, as a culture, need intense psychological examination of this issue
Sorry, but you just have to admit, that better-looking people have it easier in life... in all aspects of the game. 
Attractive people are more likely to be hired for jobs, they tend to do better in sales and service jobs and in politics, somebody on the street is more likely to help you if you're attractive and in trouble, beautiful people are less likely to be sentenced to jail, they're less likely to be cited by the police, and they also find more attractive, sexier, and wealthier partners.
Who wouldn't want to be attractive with all the perks that come with it?
It's biology and evolution at work.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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BTW I think you would have made a good FTM  Not saying that to be insulting in any way
I actually think I would have too
In fact, every now and then, especially when I was going through my roids phase, I thought extensively about whether to transition fully to FTM, maybe later on in my 40's. I already have the square jaw, I have a husky masculine voice, and high cheekbones, I think I'd make a pretty decent-looking guy.
The only thing I have going against me is that I'm short. 5'5" is not a good look for a man, even with big muscles.
My main worry though, would be transitioning, only to discover that I end up a really ugly man. I mean, I don't want to go through all that only to realize that I end up looking like one of those fugly ass dudes, that would suck. And I wouldn't be able to revert back to a woman after that, because my jaw structure has completely changed after hormone therapy, I'd end up looking like a butch woman for the rest of my life.
In reality though I'd probably get tons of plastic surgery first before I consider gender reassignment surgery. I mean, if I have all that money to change my looks, I'd probably go one direction first before I went the other.
Yeah, a lot of FTM's seem to uglify when the test runs its course. 5'5 isn't short for an Asian man, I'm only a few inches taller and have no issues from it
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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i think we, as a culture, need intense psychological examination of this issue
Sorry, but you just have to admit, that better-looking people have it easier in life... in all aspects of the game. 
Attractive people are more likely to be hired for jobs, they tend to do better in sales and service jobs and in politics, somebody on the street is more likely to help you if you're attractive and in trouble, beautiful people are less likely to be sentenced to jail, they're less likely to be cited by the police, and they also find more attractive, sexier, and wealthier partners.
Who wouldn't want to be attractive with all the perks that come with it?
Oh man, if I had all the money in the world, I'd shave my jawline, butcher my nose, get injections in my lips, and maybe even consider doing something with the eyes. I'd get a brazilian butt lift and probably C cup implants. I'd end up like Heidi Montag after her 20 operations.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: TNK]
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TheNatureKid said: Well Jackson turned white, and was accepted.
She tried to turn black and it ruined her career.
Interesting it is. 
I think people forgive Jackson though, because he was ashamed of being black in a culture where racism was rampant. I mean MJ was born in the 50's. I think that's why people forgive him, is because they see it as him hating himself and his race kind of thing.
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i think we, as a culture, need intense psychological examination of this issue
Sorry, but you just have to admit, that better-looking people have it easier in life... in all aspects of the game. 
Attractive people are more likely to be hired for jobs, they tend to do better in sales and service jobs and in politics, somebody on the street is more likely to help you if you're attractive and in trouble, beautiful people are less likely to be sentenced to jail, they're less likely to be cited by the police, and they also find more attractive, sexier, and wealthier partners.
Who wouldn't want to be attractive with all the perks that come with it?
Oh man, if I had all the money in the world, I'd shave my jawline, butcher my nose, get injections in my lips, and maybe even consider doing something with the eyes. I'd get a brazilian butt lift and probably C cup implants. I'd end up like Heidi Montag after her 20 operations.
You been living in California too long. None of this is normal.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89]
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They grill adults on their intentions to change sex..but allow it from the words of a 4 yr old..Crazy
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Sheekle said: i remember when one of my sisters was around 4-5 she went through a period of saying she wishes she was a boy, she got over it in a few months and went onto live as a happy, healthy, girly-girl. her life wouldve taken a really odd turn if she stapled dicks to her tits at 4 years
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Great Scott]
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PeyoteZen said: You been living in California too long. None of this is normal.
Yes, I'm aware people in the rest of the country are ugly compared to Californians. Somebody who's a 9 in Pennsylvania or Ohio would likely be a 6 in California.
But you can't deny, that beautiful people have it far better in life. Better jobs, better partners, better sex life, etc.
You only have more to gain, and nothing to lose, by becoming more conventionally attractive.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: Yeah, a lot of FTM's seem to uglify when the test runs its course. 5'5 isn't short for an Asian man, I'm only a few inches taller and have no issues from it
If I were even 5'9" I could get away with my height... but 5'5" is just TOO short for a man to make it in life, IMO. I feel like I'd end up one of those frustrated guys who's angry at the world if I were a 5'5" man. Hell after getting snubbed by enough women, I might even become an MRA.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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There are attractive people everywhere, I didn't find Cali to be special in that regard
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If I were even 5'9" I could get away with my height... but 5'5" is just TOO short for a man to make it in life, IMO. I feel like I'd end up one of those frustrated guys who's angry at the world if I were a 5'5" man. Hell after getting snubbed by enough women, I might even become an MRA. 
I don't think 5'5 is really bad for an Asian guy, isn't 5'4 average?
Certainly wouldn't make things any easier, but personally I wouldn't sweat it
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: There are attractive people everywhere, I didn't find Cali to be special in that regard
It's about the ratio of attractive people. In some places, you might only find 1 or 2 attractive people out of 100. In some parts of California, it's literally like you stepped into Ken and Barbie's dream house. You might be attractive, but you're still the most average-looking basic person compared to these other models and personal trainer types.
When I use online dating sites in California, I find tons of attractive guys. On the East Coast, I could only find them in New Jersey or Manhattan.... not in Pennsylvania. Yuck.
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I don't think 5'5 is really bad for an Asian guy, isn't 5'4 average?
5'4" is average for women... not men.
Average height for men is 5'10" in America. For East Asian men, it tends to be around 5'8".
Apparently Tibetans average around 5'11". Northern Chinese also tend to be super tall, hence why they have people like Yao Ming.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: It's about the ratio of attractive people. In some places, you might only find 1 or 2 attractive people out of 100. In some parts of California, it's literally like you stepped into Ken and Barbie's dream house. You might be attractive, but you're still the most average-looking basic person compared to these other models and personal trainer types.
When I use online dating sites in California, I find tons of attractive guys. On the East Coast, I could only find them in New Jersey or Manhattan.... not in Pennsylvania. Yuck.
I mean, there were a lot of attractive people around where I lived, but we're talking about Northridge and Pacific Beach. Go to Chula Vista and things change a bit
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5'4" is average for women... not men.
Average height for men is 5'10" in America. For East Asian men, it tends to be around 5'8".
Apparently Tibetans average around 5'11". Northern Chinese also tend to be super tall, hence why they have people like Yao Ming.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Repertoire89] 1
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Apparently there's a surgery that you can have to make yourself taller though, it involves breaking your femur and installing plates in between the bones.
So if you want an extremely painful surgery and asymmetrical thigh and calf proportions, I guess you could consider this. 
Damn, that guy was only 4'11" before surgery, I can kind of almost understand why he did what he did:
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
#23634378 - 09/10/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Great Scott]
#23634399 - 09/10/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I always assumed it was a procedure you had to get in a foreign country... but I found a Hollywood doctor who does it: http://heightlengthening.com/faq/
I really wonder though, how often do malpractice lawsuits against plastic surgeons ever happen? Because I see a lot of people are unhappy with their cosmetic procedure results, yet the surgeons are almost never successfully sued in practice. I see patients saying that what they requested or were promised is nothing remotely close to the results, or some people who had adverse reactions like scarring or disfigurement or infections or allergic reactions to the surgeries say they were never warned about this possibility by doctors beforehand. But it seems lawsuits against plastic surgeons is rarely ever successful.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
#23634420 - 09/10/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dunno, none of this stuff in even on my radar of interest. I can't imagine wanting plastic surgery unless I was horribly disfigured in a tragic accident and needed a doctor to glue my face back on or something.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Great Scott]
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You must have never had bad acne, I considered getting laser peels on my face back when I had acne problems.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
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You must have never had bad acne, I considered getting laser peels on my face back when I had acne problems.
outside of allergies/severe dermal cases, most acne is diet-related, especially post-pubescent
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
#23634428 - 09/10/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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outside of allergies/severe dermal cases, most acne is diet-related, especially post-pubescent
Not true at all. Acne, especially for adult women, is hormonal in a lot of cases. Women with higher androgen and testosterone levels have more acne problems, especially acne around the jawline and cheek area signifies hormone imbalances.
Hence why women who are pregnant or have recently given birth will often suffer from adult acne.
Spironolactone (androgen suppressors) cured my acne, in combination with birth control pills.
I've heard Accutane works too, but it's so harsh on the liver that you need to get a mandatory a blood test every month.
My acne eventually went away on its own, and now all I use is a tretinoin cream on my face. My acne came back when I was experimenting with roids, and I had to go on Solodyn and use a sulfur wash on my back to cure it.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Crystal G]
#23634436 - 09/11/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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outside of allergies/severe dermal cases, most acne is diet-related, especially post-pubescent
Not true at all. Acne, especially for adult women, is hormonal in a lot of cases. Women with higher androgen and testosterone levels have more acne problems, especially acne around the jawline and cheek area signifies hormone imbalances.
Hence why women who are pregnant or have recently given birth will often suffer from adult acne.
Spironolactone (androgen suppressors) cured my acne, in combination with birth control pills.
I've heard Accutane works too, but it's so harsh on the liver that you need to get a mandatory a blood test every month.
My acne eventually went away on its own, and now all I use is a tretinoin cream on my face. My acne came back when I was experimenting with roids, and I had to go on Solodyn and use a sulfur wash on my back to cure it.
i'd be interested to know what their diet is
not doubting that you may be right, but i'm still curious, especially as pregnant women are known to indulge in specific foods (hence the cravings that occur)
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: demiu5]
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demiu5 said: i'd be interested to know what their diet is
not doubting that you may be right, but i'm still curious, especially as pregnant women are known to indulge in specific foods (hence the cravings that occur)
I specifically started breaking out after I detoxed from opiates. Which makes sense, because opiates are a natural androgen suppressor. So when I got off them, my testosterone shot through the roof and I suffered from acne for years before I found a solution that could fix it.
Certainly, I've noticed that certain foods, especially dairy tends to give me breakouts. But it will only be 1 or 2 pimples after I consume dairy. Severe acne problems is cysts and pustules literally all over your face, it makes you look like a monster.
I've noticed pregnant women are more likely to eat carbs, since morning sickness typically occurs from meats and fish and animal products.
It might seem like diet because hormone changes cause dietary habits to change. But it's the hormones causing the dietary changes, not the other way around.
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You must have never had bad acne, I considered getting laser peels on my face back when I had acne problems.
outside of allergies/severe dermal cases, most acne is diet-related, especially post-pubescent
Yeah that's a bunch of horseshit
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BTW I think you would have made a good FTM  Not saying that to be insulting in any way
I actually think I would have too
In fact, every now and then, especially when I was going through my roids phase, I thought extensively about whether to transition fully to FTM, maybe later on in my 40's. I already have the square jaw, I have a husky masculine voice, and high cheekbones, I think I'd make a pretty decent-looking guy.
The only thing I have going against me is that I'm short. 5'5" is not a good look for a man, even with big muscles.
My main worry though, would be transitioning, only to discover that I end up a really ugly man. I mean, I don't want to go through all that only to realize that I end up looking like one of those fugly ass dudes, that would suck. And I wouldn't be able to revert back to a woman after that, because my jaw structure has completely changed after hormone therapy, I'd end up looking like a butch woman for the rest of my life.
In reality though I'd probably get tons of plastic surgery first before I consider gender reassignment surgery. I mean, if I have all that money to change my looks, I'd probably go one direction first before I went the other.
I don't know why transmen are less common than transwoman, maybe nature things too far more that not far enough?
I wouldn't call you cisgender anymore for having these thoughts.
I don't consider myself an ugly girl, at least average looking, but even being an ugly woman is way more appealing to me that being perceived as any sort of male no matter how attractive. I think if you were solidly trans being an ugly guy would be more appealing than being any girl, because being your true self feels very good.
I wonder what the statistics are on suicides due to being really ugly, lol.
Facial surgery is the only surgery I'd truly want at this point, but eh, thats a tollbooth that is way far up the road.
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Re: 4-year-old approved for sex change in Australia [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Apollyphelion said: I don't know why transmen are less common than transwoman, maybe nature things too far more that not far enough?
I suspect there's a biological phenomenon to it.
Apparently women produce more and more estrogen with each time they get pregnant.
This means that a son who is the fifth child will be exposed to exponentially far more estrogen in the womb than a first-born daughter.
I forget what the exact statistics were, but your 3rd son is apparently like 3 times more likely to be homosexual than a 1st-born son, and one of the reasons they suspect this is due to the increased estrogen that happens with each pregnancy.
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