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gardenstate
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Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination
#23632034 - 09/10/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey shroomery So here's the story... I spawned Pan cyan cakes to pasteurized cow poo and hay. Everything looked great I cases the 5 trays with coco coir + SGFC and now about a week later the mycelium is popping through the casing. Unfortunately 2 trays developed some patches of trich. I moved the contaminated trays out and I scooped out the trich patches. Now one of the contaminated trays is starting to fruit. Should I just let the contaminated trays fruit and hope the trich doesn't come back with a vengeance? Or should I just try moving them outside and trying an outdoor bed? I planned on the outdoor bed until I saw the first signs of pinning on them this morning. Thoughts?
First pic with Smaller pins are on the good tray second pic with bigger pin is on the contaminated one
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Panarchist
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: gardenstate]
#23634068 - 09/10/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i would think that you would do best to just let them keep doing their thing in their present form and then see what happens. if you're seeing the infection this early in the cycle you're probably not going to get many, if any, fruits but it's worth a try. contaminated cube cakes can still do ok outside but i haven't seen this same tendency for pan mycelium. i've only seen a few instances of pans being cultivated outside and even with uncontaminated cakes/substrates the results were not impressive.
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: Panarchist]
#23634382 - 09/10/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds like your spawn was contaminated dude.
Get. It. Out!!!!!!!! You dont want that in your house. Cutting out Trichoderma does nothing but spread spores everywhere, your sub is still riddled with it.
If its fruiting let it fruit but for god sakes not in your house!
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: mushpunx]
#23634526 - 09/11/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha you better take mush's word for it. He's had some pretty insane setbacks that made me quite sad but it seems like things are better now?
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gardenstate
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: Mad Season]
#23634749 - 09/11/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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my spawn was clean this I'm sure, Im almost positive it was due to improper pasteurization of my casing layer (too much heat). That being said, these are the only thing I have fruiting and are also my first pan grow so I think I'll just let them do their thing for now hopefully I'll get some fruits from them. I've had trich in the passed on my cubes usually just immediately dump everything with it but these are very special. Still might be advisable to move all the trays from my standard grow closet.... Anyway thanks for the advice everyone!
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: gardenstate]
#23634768 - 09/11/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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gardenstate said: my spawn was clean this I'm sure, Im almost positive it was due to improper pasteurization of my casing layer (too much heat). That being said, these are the only thing I have fruiting and are also my first pan grow so I think I'll just let them do their thing for now hopefully I'll get some fruits from them.
Frank's Proper Pasteurization Tek 
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, especially with pans. If one thing is off in your FC then they might not fruit at all. This has happened to me many times, very frustrating.
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23634784 - 09/11/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ur casing layer looks dry….and u have an uncolonized piece of hay hanging out of the second tray.
u don't want things to get dry>wet>dry>wet, its a vector for mold. evaporation is good, but complete drying out is not.
tighten up ur ship, and them pans will reward you kindly
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: blindingleaf]
#23635542 - 09/11/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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^ Good stuff!
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: mushpunx]
#23638607 - 09/12/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey thanks for the posts everyone! I have learned so much already on my first grow!
Trich is still looming through damn near all of my trays but one but pins are popping up everywhere! I'll hopefully salvage a decent yield from this batch and make some adjustments for my next grow.
Highly appreciate all the input everyone! thanks!
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: gardenstate]
#23639270 - 09/12/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You did put them outside?
Trust me if you want to keep growing inside your house you should put those outside
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: mushpunx]
#23647488 - 09/15/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ended up fruiting them inside, I don't really do much growing in this spot anyway so it's not that big of a deal I'll clean everything as best I can after. Actually getting some decent yields off them glad I didn't toss them, but I definitely could have done better ah well... next time!
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: gardenstate]
#23647498 - 09/15/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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gardenstate said: Ended up fruiting them inside, I don't really do much growing in this spot anyway so it's not that big of a deal I'll clean everything as best I can after. Actually getting some decent yields off them glad I didn't toss them, but I definitely could have done better ah well... next time!

Banana for scale? Haha
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: morty422]
#23647516 - 09/15/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha the lighter is for scale the velvet underground album, Andy Warhol art, and mushies are for the soul
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Panarchist
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: gardenstate]
#23648879 - 09/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice, glad to see that you were able to harvest some fruits. i would be curious to know what your final yield weights wet/dry are.
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: morty422]
#23648934 - 09/15/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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morty422 said:
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gardenstate said: Ended up fruiting them inside, I don't really do much growing in this spot anyway so it's not that big of a deal I'll clean everything as best I can after. Actually getting some decent yields off them glad I didn't toss them, but I definitely could have done better ah well... next time!

Banana for scale? Haha
XD It's the album cover for velvet underground and nico. Pretty awesome album
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Re: Pan. cyan. Early fruiting trichoderma contamination [Re: Panarchist]
#23650402 - 09/16/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Panarchist said: nice, glad to see that you were able to harvest some fruits. i would be curious to know what your final yield weights wet/dry are.
Already into double digits cracker dry and more drying/growing... I'll try to get totals when it's done fruiting.
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