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salvia_quest
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Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones?
#23631447 - 09/10/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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E.g. are the heavenly blue seeds that are a $1 a pack online weaker or don't produce LSA compared to the ones that are $5-6 in a smartshop?
Also, HB is common accepted to be the most potent ones, in terms of growing, are they the nicest ones to have in the garden?
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Re: Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones? [Re: salvia_quest]
#23631561 - 09/10/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm not sure how much the lsa levels will vary between seeds, it could be that the non-smart shop ones are more potent.
smart shop would probably care less either way
in terms of growing, i'd recommend kudzu instead
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Re: Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones? [Re: DualWieldRake]
#23632044 - 09/10/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Smartshops sell psychoactive seeds way too overpriced, you get LSA much much cheaper by just buying the seeds at a nursery /flower shop.
I buy hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, for 30 bucks you get 100 full doses. In a smartshop you'd get four or five doses.
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Re: Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones? [Re: Pandemoon]
#23632400 - 09/10/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've read that a lot of commercial seed producers put some kind of additive on morning glory seeds to cause stomach upset. That said I've gone around town gathering morning glory seeds until I had a quart ziploc full. I blended a bunch up with lemon juice and swallowed it all, and still didn't feel any effects.
Hawaiian baby woodrose is another story. I tripped balls off of 20 seeds once. I'd like to grow some. My yard is absolutely overgrown with morning glories and I might try them again.
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salvia_quest
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Re: Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones? [Re: NumeroEno]
#23634746 - 09/11/16 05:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can you actually cultivate HBWR? I thought they took years to produce seed...
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Solipsis
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Re: Is there a difference between smartshop MG seeds and normal ones? [Re: NumeroEno]
#23634941 - 09/11/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
NumeroEno said: I've read that a lot of commercial seed producers put some kind of additive on morning glory seeds to cause stomach upset. That said I've gone around town gathering morning glory seeds until I had a quart ziploc full. I blended a bunch up with lemon juice and swallowed it all, and still didn't feel any effects.
Hawaiian baby woodrose is another story. I tripped balls off of 20 seeds once. I'd like to grow some. My yard is absolutely overgrown with morning glories and I might try them again.
Fungicide, if anything... but you can wash that off - probably best with some non-polar solvent (dry well!) although water with soap may also work fine. Some of these seeds can also naturally contain cyanoglycosides in seed husks which can turn on your stomach so all this together you can expect to generate rumors like that they chemicals would be applied to deter trippers.
Why would they bother to unless it is stipulated by law?
Also seems unlikely that there is a consistent difference in potency between smart shop seeds and garden shops - it would have to involve difference in potency between bred cultivars...
"Biologically" grown MG is not necessarily free of all chemicals I think, because (at least where I live) that only designates that the more harmful listed ones aren't used. Still, I'd want to expect that seeds from the smart shop are explicitly packed without fungicides etc, at least similarly to other such things meant for human consumption.
I've run into similar issues to that involving MUCH cheaper seeds (not MG other kinds) meant for animal consumption, I forget what type, and that I found out they weren't okay to buy for human consumption because of different safety guidelines for animals vs for humans.
Edited by Solipsis (09/11/16 08:11 AM)
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