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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23631722 - 09/10/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would too, I just hope neither of us get this. Number one fight, live healthy I guess. Peace & love :heart:


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23631754 - 09/10/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How did the chemo effect her quality of life ?

Ruthless nausea is very common and nausea is one thing that ruins quality of life IME.





dealing with adverse effects for a short time isnt as horrible as dying a prolonged, agonizing death


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23631757 - 09/10/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It isn't always painful. Yes to a certain degree, but medication can control it. I am not trying to be an ass .


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21] * 1
    #23631842 - 09/10/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Electric Wizard21 said:
I want more advances, cos considering how much money charities make each year, it should have been solved years ago. More funding to actual treatment instead of theories which don't leave the whiteboard, I say.





what's to solve, we know what causes cancer in most cases, we know the risk factors
in cancer, not everything can be cured or prevented because even those that live
healthy lifestyles, dont smoke or drink, etc... some still contract cancer

just so you know, most charities arent charitable, the bulk of the money goes to
administration and acquiring donations, the money that does go toward the goal is
spent on research but that doesnt guarantee a cure, it does allow us to learn and
develop treatments and one day possible a cure or even a preventative measure


even then, that doesnt mean any of it will be successful, in the 90s an effective
vaccine for lyme disease was developed, 3 doses and it was 100% effective at
prevention of lyme disease, this was also around the same time that the anti-vax 
movement was born and they made the claim that it caused arthritis and other
problems, much like the anti-vax retards today claim they causes autism, anyway
the fear these people generated cause the vaccine to become disused and the
company producing it went out of business


so even if a cure for cancer is developed, what will happen? will the same retards
claiming that chemo kills and marijuana cures be making the same sorts of claims
that encourage people to avoid legitimate treatments? maybe if we're lucky, many
of them will get cancer and show us how effective their alternative cures really
are, maybe they can document their slow death due to holistic medicine, prayer and
marijuana so we can learn just how stupid they really are


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23631848 - 09/10/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Electric Wizard21 said:
It isn't always painful. Yes to a certain degree, but medication can control it. I am not trying to be an ass .





are you advocating the use of chemicals in an anti-chemo thread?


good to know it isnt 'always' painful.

it is never actually pleasant though


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23631858 - 09/10/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I read and here is the answer....
I'm saying there is pain killers available and the majority use them.

Why try to start an argument? 'are you trying to advocate chemicals in a anti chemo thread?' Yes I am because everyone has a right to be pain free.


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23631877 - 09/10/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Electric Wizard21 said:
Why try to start an argument? 'are you trying to advocate chemicals in a anti chemo thread?' Yes I am because everyone has a right to be pain free.





lol...


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23631907 - 09/10/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why is that funny?


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21] * 2
    #23631924 - 09/10/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

pain is an inherent part of life, there is no right to being pain free


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23631930 - 09/10/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sorry i should have said in the context of chemo/cancer.

In other words, those with cancer or undergoing treatment have a right to be pain free. :thumbup:

Hope that clarifies it.


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23631949 - 09/10/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

that makes the statement completely different. typically doctors will prescribe
something for the pain, some doctors will also suggest things they cant prescribe


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23631994 - 09/10/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm glad I could explain better. I don't explain to well most of the time. :shrug:

Strange thought, but I know they give large doses of morphine while in the last stages of life. would it work to administer something such as dmt? This might seem a bad idea. Any thoughts on that?


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23632018 - 09/10/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think DMT would be a bad idea


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Re: If you guys didn't know chemo kills people [Re: Konyap]
    #23632080 - 09/10/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Eh, you only have so many options.

Whether or not I would undergo chemo, depends on how old I am.


At this point, I'd likely just ride it out and put a slug in my head when things go too far.
Dealt with too much pain and sickness, for too long, more afraid of a few more months of agony than death.
Death is inevitable, at least this would force me to prepare for it, cross the t's and dot the i's.


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