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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23629998 - 09/09/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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"the experience of sitting around sober and suddenly feeling as if you were propelled into the peak of a psychedelic trip for no apparent reason".
This I've never heard. Usually it happens all of a sudden but it's never a full blown trip. You may see tracers or have auditory distortions. It usually passes within a few minutes and is quite enjoyable. But i haven't had one in about 30 years (they just stopped).
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630014 - 09/09/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When i was younger I thought I was getting lots of flashbacks but I don't now in any sense and I attribute that to being psychogenic or placebo as opposed to neurologic. I wanted the flashbacks so they happened, kind of.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630029 - 09/09/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No way.......and you know how much LSD I poured into mouth over the years. Now when I was tour kid & eating massive doses once or twice a week I had HPPD, and that lasted for a while. Though I was doing so many other drugs as well.... But that went away. I have a buddy that flipped the fuck out one night, and he did get PTSD from that.....years later he still hasn't fully over come it. He has made great strides though. He didn't flashbacks per se, but he did have night terrors, extreme anxiety, and questioned reality for a while.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630039 - 09/09/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the sense of neuroplasticity, flashbacks are definitely real, but in the traditional understanding of the event I'd say it's impossible unless you've got something wrong with your brain. I definitely get some distortions at times even when sober, especially if I look for it, but again, neuroplasticity.. so really I guess the answer to the question of it's existence depends on your point of view. Mine is a hard "No".
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630066 - 09/09/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have HPPD. I have constant patterning and flowing on surfaces, but not to an extreme degree. It's rather nice at times. Other times I wish I could see things "normally" even just once in a while. Sometimes I get brief flashes of the psychedelic mindset and/or mindfuck.
However, I've never gone more than two years without dosing since I started.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23630085 - 09/09/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first time I took a psychedelic it was a research chemical on blotter at a friends house. During the peak we were watching the office and michael scott's face looked holographic and oddly distorted, almost like a van gogh painting. Well several months later I was back at that same friends house and we got stoned and watched the office. As I watching it, michael's face began to do that weird shape shifting thing again and I knew immediately I was experiencing some sort of flash back.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sporepoise]
#23630199 - 09/09/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh man I woke up the other day and saw trails everywhere and the walls were breathing. So the fuck what? Same things happened to me when I was a kid well before I ever ate acid. I think flashbacks are a myth. I abused the FUCK out of acid and never had a flashback.
Right but that is because your brain is still developing. A fully developed brain that is chemically and pathogically normal doesn't experience trails, breathing walls, etc.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630215 - 09/09/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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the flashbacks Ive had have been very subtle, like a sudden change in consciousness. I dont get full-on LSD peak effects of a flashback, more like a tiny sliver of the experience which reminds me of LSD.
I get them from shrooms too more often, same subtle effect. Likely cause i take shrooms more regularly.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630288 - 09/09/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ptsd can cause flash backs--- not the same as what flashbacks from lsd or other paychedelics are supposed to be... Sometimes colors change and things get squiggly. These are different from the prodromes i have to migraines, very noticeably. The hallucinations are similar, towards the much milder part of the paychedelic spectrum. Clinically, i know of instances where users continue to trip long after the drug has worn off and need the help of a doc to come back down to earth.
Honestly, i think that's more of what a flashback is considered - a moment where you feel like you are under the influnce of the drug. This may have something to do with learning and memory, something that would involve the medial temporal lobes and cingulate cortexes, which are a part of the Default Mode Network, a subsystem of the brain that deals primarily in recalling past events while day dreaming and thinking about self in regards to others as well as future planning. This system also includes the frontal lobe.
I know in the case of flight or fight situations, the adrenal system in the body is activated and cortisol works in tandem with either norepinephrine or epinephrine (i forget which) to form flash bulb memories. LSD directly works on certain norepinephrine pathways in the brain, dealing with this circuitry in the Locus Coeruleus - a hub that is involved with the sense of Novelty.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: 404]
#23630305 - 09/09/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's very interesting you mention the flash bulb memories thing, I had to look up what that was and I can feel exactly that happening almost every time I trip, like my brain is taking "pictures" at times
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23630316 - 09/09/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think a lot of what it is happening is remembering lsd and imagining what your surroundings look like while tripping. Some people have more hyper imaginations so maybe it effects those people more.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: wigglewak]
#23637297 - 09/11/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i never had a flashback and i haven't had any psychedelics in almost 20 years but on certain rare occasions i get this effect in the center of my field of vision that's like flying through a tunnel filled with clouds. it almost seems to coincide with me feeling amped up about something in a good way but it happens so infrequently that it's hard to say. i took acid around 75 times between the ages of 15-16 but then gave it up. a few years later though i became a hardcore ketamine addict and fiend for whatever other drugs i could get for 4 years and i think that is why i also suffer from a seizure condition which did not come about until i was 29 which was 6 years since i had given up doing drugs at that point.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23637324 - 09/11/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sometimes when I hear the dead I feel like I have consumed some acid, I think my mind is forming the association between the dead and tripping because I listened to them religiously when I tripped a bunch, so is acting up in a way which makes me feel like I am starting to come up on some doses, and I get very giddy.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23637332 - 09/11/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: That's very interesting you mention the flash bulb memories thing, I had to look up what that was and I can feel exactly that happening almost every time I trip, like my brain is taking "pictures" at times
Oh yeah, i get those sometimes. I learned about it in college.
Basically, if any tramatic or really unique/life-changing/surreal/vivid moment happens, its seared into your memory basically forever.
A good example is a car wreck, getting shot at in war or having a really intense/unique moment during an Acid trip.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23637371 - 09/11/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its interesting that 25% of the vote thus far is 'yes' but nobody has described anything remotely close to being propelled back into the peak of a full blown trip with faces melting walls crawling, sound waves smashing you in the face, galaxies forming in the mirror and thoughts pirouetting from your ears and drawing faces in the air.
"I thought I maybe saw a subtle hint of a change in my consciousness for a couple of seconds, so yes"
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Sheekle]
#23637374 - 09/11/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: nuds]
#23637643 - 09/12/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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nuds said: Its interesting that 25% of the vote thus far is 'yes' but nobody has described anything remotely close to being propelled back into the peak of a full blown trip with faces melting walls crawling, sound waves smashing you in the face, galaxies forming in the mirror and thoughts pirouetting from your ears and drawing faces in the air.
"I thought I maybe saw a subtle hint of a change in my consciousness for a couple of seconds, so yes"
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I voted yes because i feel i've experienced 'flashbacks' not well described in the OP
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: 404]
#23637812 - 09/12/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I read some place that the whole flashback thing was a myth in how many people describe it, you know the myth of LSD stays in your body forever, or however that thing goes.
Instead we just have an experience which reminds of tripping, so we remember tripping and kind of feel that way. Sometimes when I smell vinegar I feel a mellowness come over me like I did a shot of dope, or if I smell a kind of burning plastic smell I feel like I smoked some DMT for a second, or if I smell certain cleaners I think of cocaine or meth.
I wish I knew more about the mind at the current moment, but the mind is an incredible thing, how powerful it is never ceases to amaze me.
I was picking mushrooms the other day, and the smell of some inactive Gymnopilus penetrans, made me feel like I was starting to come up on some shrooms. I believe I associated the smell of the inactive Gymnopilus, with active Gymnopilus species I have consumed in the past, they all smell kind of sweet anise like to me, so this triggered a response in my mind.
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Lucis]
#23637862 - 09/12/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Have any of you ever actually had an LSD flashback? [Re: Lucis]
#23638173 - 09/12/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i get that too when i smell fresh cubes, it feels like im coming up on shrooms, light tripping.
Its crazy how specific smells are attached to specific memories. Happens with candy and other unique smellls that bring back memories of childhood.
But i agree, flashbacks are exaggerated but there is a thin slice of truth there. But full peak effects while sober aint happening. Sorry DEA.
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