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Alprazolambodia
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Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco
#23628886 - 09/09/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Me and two other buddies made a a plan to go up toSan Francisco and i brought 20 hits in a vile and 4g dried shrooms along with 20 xans and my buddy brought 4 pounds of bud/trim for us to smoke the fuck out on for his bday. We arrived at our hotel at like 6:30 and i immediately dosed myself 2 200mic hits under my tongue along with both my buddies, A and J. They wanted to go and walk around but i convicnced them to wait till we started to come up before we left. we left the hotel at 6:54 and walked to the bus stop because A was persistent on going to our old friends house back in high school.
While waiting for the bus that was only a 10 min wait, A started freaking out about why we were standing here, where we even were, why are there so many people, etc. I kept reassuring him that the bus was on its way and would be here in 7 mins. I also told him that hes the only one who even wanted to go to this chicks house so we can go somewhere else rn if you want. I look over to him like 2 mins later and there are tears going dow his face, and at this point it was only like 30-40 mins since i dosed him. The bus finally arrived and it was a packed bus so we had to stand nd he could barely stand.
Unfortunately, there was this crackhead with a raspy disgusting voice yelling i hate niggers, i kill niggers, etc and A, the one on the bad trip, was black himself. This put him into an awful seting and it was like this for 20 mins until we got to our destination.We finally got to the chicks house and at this point both my homies, J and A, are completely losing it but i do acid alot so i can handle my shit. We got to the house, started to smoke a couple bowls and then all the sudden A gets up and starts pacing and says we need to get out of here blah blah. I go to comfort him and he didnt know who or where he was. he thought he was in our hometown 8 hours away even after me constantly telling him where we were and that he drove us here.
all the sudden he looked at me with this crazed look and said "i know what the fuck ur doing" super loud and decked a whole in the chicks door. She then kicked us out and A started running into the streets and i had to chase him and i would gethim to his senses for liek 30 seconds then he wuold lose it and chant different languages and try to punch or hurt anyone or anything in front of him. i later found out he thought we were trying to kill him. He then started to try to call his mom and i kept getting him not to but them she finally answered and he was like im dead mom, im on the long one, i overdid it, i love you, then chants, and then started repeatedly screaming I want my Mom and Dad super loud. keep in mind we are in the middle of the street at this point and there are about 20 onlookers at this point.
All the sudden he booked it and i chased after him 2 blocks but he then ran onto a busy street and started going into oncoming traffic while sprinting full speed and screaming "i want my mom and dad". i for my own life had to stop following him and thats when i realized the seriouslness of the situation. there were homeless people formt he tenderloins screaming what the fuck cal the cops this kids gunna get hit etc. I knew i had to run away for my own sake cause i had 16 hits and over an eight of shrooms on me so i took a few back alleys and finally found my other homies. i told them what happened and we headed back to the hotel but walked the whole time because all of our phones died. we got back tot he hotel and thought about what to do with all these felonies, so in the inebrated state we were in, we decided to injest it all. We both took 8 more hits and a vial wash and split 4gs shrooms and stashed the xan somewhere lowkey in the apt downstaris.
We tripped balls the rest of the night and decided to just file a police report in the am for missing person and come 7am A comes running into our hotel with shit ALL over his shoes and piss stains. he said he had a spit mask on and was handcuffed to a bed int he hospital. he was s o fucked that he thought the handcuffs were dogs chewing his hands away. he said he thought he was watchign 9/11 happen in front of his eyes while running through SF when he was on the phone with his mom screaming i want my mom and dad! so gnarly. but anyways, 5 mins after A arrived there was a knock at the door then "police". me and J were super fucked up(psych wise) and they knocked again and said "SF police open up". i hid the illadelph real wuick and opened the door. they said A's parents reported a missing persona and they traced him to the hotel blah blah and asked why pupils were so bug but other than that we got away with it. A ended up taking a plane ride home 11am that morning and is completely fine now. thanks for the read. *everything stated above is purely fictional*
Edited by Alprazolambodia (09/10/16 01:15 PM)
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Thayendanegea
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That was a crazy read. Glad you all made it through and your friend didn't die.Pretty careless of you guys though ....set and setting was about everything wrong you could do.
Also....paragraphs are your friend. It's difficult to read when it is just a huge block of text.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23629094 - 09/09/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didnt read it but also had drug induced psychosis haha the best ones
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Oh you kids ...
Like mentioned above, sounds like you fellas were all being pretty damn careless and didn't really plan or think things out before taking the trip.
How experienced are you & your friends with psychedelics?...
And use paragraphs dude, I doubt many/any people are going to read that ....I don't get how people can just type away, creating a huge block/wall of text and never have the thought to make a new paragraph.
Good to hear things didn't turn out too bad though .
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nooneman


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That was incredibly careless, and you are partially responsible for the outcome because of how careless you allowed it to be. You should have known the risks involved with psychedelics, and you should have chosen a safe, comfortable, familiar environment, not the shittiest streets of San Francisco.
You make all of us look bad when something like this happens. You made LSD look bad because of your carelessness. BE MORE CAREFUL NEXT TIME.
Always trip in safe, comfortable, familiar environments.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: nooneman]
#23629632 - 09/09/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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dumbass
EDIT: my comment is directed to OP, not nooneman.
Edited by LuzaW (09/09/16 04:28 PM)
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: LuzaW]
#23630242 - 09/09/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's some bad acid man...
Bad... bad acid.
As a resident of SF in my past this doesn't come at a shock to all, I fucking hate those people in the city. Seriously, some people say "homelessness is a problem in SF" well there are those that are disadvantaged by gentrification or down on their luck homeless, or the homeless that have created an underling society in SF feeding off of it and destroying. This is literally a legion of whores, pimps, prostitutes, meth addicts openly robbing people for their habit, crackheads taking off their pants and jacking off on the bus, or RC heads who are so fucked up on they don't even know what they don't realize they are pooping in the middle of the street.
These underlings literally use the face of the real homeless problem to hide in their fucked up filth; honestly you might think it's bad to say this, but this is a legion of basically homeless neo-nazis. They literally sabotage homeless camps and raid/rape them.
I'd like to fucking hit that crackhead over the face with an iron bar... seriously it's fucked. I love this city, but there are a few thousand people in it that literally deserve to suffocate in a plastic bag.
Super happy your friend didn't get hit by a car, or lose his mind.
Next time this happens, how about you fucking get a cab and get back to the apartment ya fakin' kiddies. San francisco is a serious place and you hear about kids like that getting jacked, beat up, hit by tweakers and left for dead when there alone in the wrong parts of the city out of their mind.
Edited by Typerwritermonky (09/09/16 07:04 PM)
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Alprazolambodia
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: openmind]
#23632263 - 09/10/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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was super fucked up when i typed this lol hence the awful structure, but i would say im pretty experienced i have tripped over 35 times and have tripped at school, work, in fornt of parents, etc when i was younger. I warned both my homies that they should take it tmrw but they were persistent on taking it with me. I had my shit all planned out i was gunna fry the first night, 3rd night, and 5th day and they were just gunna fry the 3rd day but then they changed their minds and i thought they would be able to handle it
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: nooneman]
#23632278 - 09/10/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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how? i brought the appropriate amount of LSD for me to last a week and have a good time, my friend who has taken acid multiple times willingly injested it, knowing that our plan was to just people watch for the night and i even earned both of them. i would say i handled it the best anybody could. Everyone should know their own limits, and some people simply dont. I can take acid in ANY set and setting and i told them that about 10 times on the way up. If i was putting a bad rep on it i would have kept the rest of the acid, not called the hosptial or put in a missing persons report, let the police take my L and trace it back to original dealer, etc. THis guy is my best friend, but it gets to a point where u shouldnt be taking drugs in general if u cant handle the come up of an acid trip
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Alprazolambodia
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thats what i was tryin dog! he was running away and trying to punch me whenever we walked towards the cab. were 20 btw so were not lil kiddies, he was fuckin assulting me he thought i was trying to kill him by offering him a xanax. Ive been to SF many times before and am familiar with the streets and people from the loins lol; he was actualy running in the middle of the street into oncoming traffic on market street at 9pm. And actually this is the best acid ive ever had i had a full vile and tested it n all the good stuff. Some people just arent supposed to take LSD i guess.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: openmind]
#23632306 - 09/10/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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was suupper intoxicated when i wrote this lol didnt even rememebr posting it honeslty..
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23632309 - 09/10/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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sorry bout awful composition was quite inebriated at the time, thanks for the read
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: LuzaW]
#23632322 - 09/10/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah? dumbass for coming up with a logical solution to a crazy ass scenario while on acid? yeah my friend was a dumbass, me on the other hand was anything but a dumbass. if it werent for me, he would have lost it an hour before he really did. i was the only thing keeping him somewhat in reality i was calling him by his middle name, etc. some people just cant handle lsd. bottom line. If i were a dumbass u would have seen the death of a man running in the streets on lsd in the news, but appreciate the compliment (:
Edited by Alprazolambodia (09/10/16 12:56 PM)
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yeah fuck those tweaks and all those tenderloin fiends, i had to walk over all their nappy ass bullshit to get back to the hotel one night while peaking lol. yeah he was freaking out about the amount of people t union square, etc. i learned my lesson, im only dosing people who i have already had experience with from now on and even then am cautious about it and warn them. i fucking love SF man i wanna move up north soooooooooo damn bad. Lol offtopic but this one fool came up to us at DOlores park cause he saw us hook someone a sac and put a gun to my homies back trying to act all hard and said there is a 50$ fee to sell here lolol. eneded up buying 2 pounds off us
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You should have known the risks involved with psychedelics, and you should have chosen a safe, comfortable, familiar environment, not the shittiest streets of San Francisco.
Your choice of such a shitty environment and your choice to ignore the obvious risks involved in psychedelics (especially with new users) means you're absolutely partially responsible for what happened. That's not on them, that's on you. YOU should have known better, YOU should have known how other people (especially new users) might react under the effects of psychedelics, and YOUR lack of responsibility lead to this. It doesn't matter if someone else "can't handle it" or whatever, you should have never put them in a situation where something like this could happen in the first place. It was incredibly irresponsible.
You could have stopped this from happening in the first place by choosing a safe, comfortable, familiar environment for your friends to trip in, instead of choosing the shittiest streets of San Francisco. It's not enough to shove responsibility onto others. You made that choice, and you have to take responsibility for it.
Don't ever do something that careless and irresponsible again.
Always trip in safe, comfortable, familiar environments.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: nooneman]
#23632419 - 09/10/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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like i said, this kid has tripped at raves and other places that i would never consider triping at. I do take some responsibility, thats why i cased him, reported a person, called the hospital, etc. I specifically told them that i was gunna be frying more than them because im very comfortable with tripping. Whatever, i get ur point but ur acting like im an idiot. Im the one who brought him into a safe house, hes the one who ran out of house and punched whole into a wall and then ran into oppposite flow of cars. in my opinion, set and setting dont mean much unless a heroic dose of some sort. when ur comfortable with the lsd high, its like being high off weed in front of people(besides pupils). and yes, next time i will only dose myself and enjoy the wonderful city without having to fin a missing high guy.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: nooneman]
#23632428 - 09/10/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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im well aware of psych risks, hence why i do so much research and always experiment at threshold doses and work my way up. so that didnt play into the incident at all. the issue was my buddy simply got too many hits under hits tongue and couldnt handle the culture shock and had ego loss but didnt know how to handle the ego dissolution, so assumed he was dead and was immortal instead.
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nooneman


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I don't mean to treat you like an idiot, and I'm glad that you do take some responsibility. Setting makes little difference if things go right, but it can make a HUGE difference if things go wrong. If he was back in his own home in his own town, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
Having said all that, and since you did take some responsibility, this kind of reaction is a known thing that happens to some people. Some people become violent under the effects of psychedelic. You should definitely never trip around this guy again. Clearly he is one of the small minority that sometimes has a violent reaction on psychedelics.
Some trippers in such situations have attempted to physically restrain the person involved, but this is always risky. You can break limbs, or otherwise hurt the person, or end up injured yourself.
This is why setting can be so important. With the right setting, there is at least the possibility that this all could have been prevented, and none of these harder questions would have come up. If he was at home, maybe you could have called his mom, and maybe finding her could have calmed him down. This is just speculation though. Some people have violent reactions, there's no denying that.
Did you ever trip around him before? Were there any signs of this kind of behavior?
You should definitely never trip with him again or provide him with psychedelics. They're not for him.
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Re: Drug-Induced Psychosis in San Fransisco [Re: nooneman]
#23632509 - 09/10/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i underestimated setting because i am so used to tripping in awkward busy places; he said hes tripped trice at raves and the 1st time was actually on a camping trip and i was with him and he was just acting like a usual first dose tripper haha asking about stars having personal lives, etc so i assumed he would be able to handle it and so did he.
This kid is like the chillest and most laid back kid ever so ti was insane when he started freaking! I told him to never do acid or any drugs for that matter anymore. i have given him only 15mg morphine and he couldnt walk within 30 mins. guy either has SERIOUS placebo affect or gets really affected by these foreign substances entering his body.
looking back i dont regret anything. it was technically my worst trip becasue i literally thought o myself at one point, "aight i just wanna be sober for a sec and figure this shit out" and ive never had that before on lsd. That was hopefully the worst experience i will ever have to be involved in, luckuily he didndt get detained. Woke up with a spit mask and handcuffs on all limbs tho.er wish upon anybody. I
yeah he was chanting different languages it was getting super next level like the shit u read online and dont believe. and ive done and been wit h some crazy fuckers who do crazy shit. It was something i would never want anybody to experience, i thought he was schizophrenic for life after that episode.
It was to the point where if we WERE in our hotel room, he would have tried to jump out of window type of scenario. it was FUCKING GNARLY. and i was peaking just as hard on the same amount i just am used to teh batch and can always keep a super mellow mindset.
It sucks cause there were 5 people there not including me and no body even tried to help him but me. the only reason i did was because he has been my best friend for over 12 years so it was dumbfounding watching him run into oncoming traffic on 2 hits. thought i would never see him again.
The hostpital gave him a shit ton of valium but i told him not to smke weed or anything for at least a couple days
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Man what a horrible story. Really bad decision making was used here by everyone involved.
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