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Ghambrosia
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Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis
#23627916 - 09/09/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, yesterday i took 15g of the Psilocybe Tampanensis Sclerotia (truffle) from "MushMagic". The experience was satisfying at first. As i expected it started with this warm energy flowing through my whole body and everything seemed to be much rounder.
Now to the bad part: Under the peak i just felt really confused. I did not have any insights or spiritual enlightenments. It was more of an ego-dissolution (no ego-death). I wondered who i and what all this around me (my bedroom) was. I was really really confused and could not think clearly whatsoever. It was not a scary, but more of a "dumbed down" experience.
Now, the next day i feel a bit depressed and empty - which i hope will change soon. I don't know if it has to do with my trip, but i am a little bit anxious, because i expected the exact opposite.
Does anyone have a idea what i might have done wrong? Or if truffles potentially have an different effect than the classic mushroom? I mean, both contain psilocybin. Thanks in beforehand.
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Ghambrosia]
#23628630 - 09/09/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well you are gonna feel down and drained the day after because tripping does drain your body and mind. As to the above it sounds like an average trip, nothing exceptional and nothing horrible. For ego death you need massive dosages.
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I've gotten those exact effects from mushrooms. I dont find it negative at all or bad. When you get to that point sometimes its hard to make sense of the reality around you. Best to just lay down, close your eyes and let the trip guide you
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: SonicTitan]
#23628934 - 09/09/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the answers. I feel much better now. This was my second trip, so i might just don't have that much personal experience yet. (apart from reading trip-reports)
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Ghambrosia]
#23629542 - 09/09/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've only had a couple experiences from mushrooms that was reminiscent of what you described...More or less a lack luster experience with a depressing funk about it, lacking "enchantment" .
And feeling confused only comes about when I try to do something, if I'm just laying around pondering things or dissolving into music I can think crystal clear...confusion doesn't come about for me until I attempt to do something that requires the executive functions of my cognition.
To answer your question, nothing went wrong ....The experience isn't going to be the same each time. And the experience is of your self, not the mushrooms (if that makes any sense).
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psilocybinjunkie said: Well you are gonna feel down and drained the day after because tripping does drain your body and mind.....
It's actually the absolute contrary with the majority of my experiences with psychedelics, particularly mushrooms...I usually feel re-charged, uplifted, clear headed with a sharper/enhanced cognition, refreshed, high on life, stellar!
The only psychedelic that sometimes makes me feel a bit drained the day after is LSD, most likely because of the affinity it has on dopamine receptors and getting little/poor sleep after the trip.
But I rarely feel down/depressed and drained mentally/physically after a trip....usually the opposite. Generally speaking, IME, I don't feel that tripping drains my body or mind, though LSD in particular can occasionally make me feel such.
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: openmind]
#23631365 - 09/10/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had posted this in a thread very similar to yours that was listed just before yours in the forum tonight.
Entheogens are Beings. These Beings were called "God" by people like Christ, Buddha, Moses, Mohamed, Shiva, Lao Tse etc. - and They ARE God.
"There is a Spirit who is awake in our sleep and creates the wonder of dreams. They are Brahman, the Spirit of Light, who in truth is called the Immortal. All the worlds rest on that Spirit and beyond Them no one can go: This in truth is That.... As the sun that beholds the world is untouched by earthly impurities, so the Spirit that is in all things is untouched by external sufferings.... They are the Eternal among things that pass away, pure Consciousness of conscious beings, the ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their souls attain the peace eternal." --Katha Upanishad
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: openmind]
#23631391 - 09/10/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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openmind said: It's actually the absolute contrary with the majority of my experiences with psychedelics, particularly mushrooms...I usually feel re-charged, uplifted, clear headed with a sharper/enhanced cognition, refreshed, high on life, stellar! .
I guess everybody's "day after" can be different. Maybe the dosage also plays a role in how pleasant it gets. I, for example was still conscious of my surroundings. Now when i think of it, i actually still had alot of control. Maybe it's about finding the right dose, where you don't have control anymore and just can let yourself go, with no resistance. Because logically you should feel less drained after that.
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: endogenous]
#23659038 - 09/19/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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endogenous said: I had posted this in a thread very similar to yours that was listed just before yours in the forum tonight.
Entheogens are Beings. These Beings were called "God" by people like Christ, Buddha, Moses, Mohamed, Shiva, Lao Tse etc. - and They ARE God.
"There is a Spirit who is awake in our sleep and creates the wonder of dreams. They are Brahman, the Spirit of Light, who in truth is called the Immortal. All the worlds rest on that Spirit and beyond Them no one can go: This in truth is That.... As the sun that beholds the world is untouched by earthly impurities, so the Spirit that is in all things is untouched by external sufferings.... They are the Eternal among things that pass away, pure Consciousness of conscious beings, the ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their souls attain the peace eternal." --Katha Upanishad
'Christ' isn't a being.
It's a label to denote a condition of being of an annointed human and every one listed therein was annointed.
You could put Ghandi in there too and Paramahansa (to name but two of many) and those aforementioned hadn't laid a finger upon entheogens.
They achieved connection through Kriya Yoga, taught as children and then to children, which also is not God, but a method of conditioning the body to divine attunement.
There are some who spend a lot of time going against the grain. It's only when they are weary from their efforts that they realise they have shaved down the existance of their own chair.
Edited by Duncan Rowhl (09/19/16 04:42 PM)
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Ghambrosia]
#23660293 - 09/19/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Massive doses or a low ego maybe
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Re: Bad experience with: Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: endogenous]
#23661263 - 09/20/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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endogenous said:
Entheogens are Beings.
Funny you should say that, I have read numerous stories about entheogens being living things, usually these stories were from Mexican/South American shaman.
I read one story where a Mexican shaman said that mushrooms had their own voice, and they sounded like little children. I have experienced this while picking Psilocybe caerulescens, where I walked to an area which seemed like a good habitat for them, didn't see anything right away, but then hear childlike voices telling me to "look over here" and upon doing so, discovered many specimens.
It was strange because yes they sounded child like, but not like a child in this realm of existence, more like how I would imagine some sort of faerie would sound.
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