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Growing in an operational refridge
#23625675 - 09/08/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all, first post and a nub. I've bee looking around the forum about old dead refridges being used for cultivation but not any that are functioning. The reason I am interested in this is because I live in the desert and have the idea to grow cool wood loving mushrooms. At this point I think I have worked out getting outside air into the system but was wondering if anybody has ever installed a humidity controller onto the fridge's built in dehumidifier. Or, if anybody has ever used a shotgun box inside a fridge (with potentially smaller holes) to keep relative humidity up. From what I understand (my understanding is minimal) these types generally don't need the 95% saturation or even will withstand it. Maybe a shotgun box in its standard config would work due the lower range of humidity. Thanks and I apologize for my noobness.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625741 - 09/08/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't bother fridges are full of nasty shit and air tight once closed not to mention if operational cold
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Sweet, thanks Mushroom Forest! That is something, at least another ver! The glass door is nice. Still wondering about fae though. Looks like in the sealed containers humidity is a nonissue as they only get misted once every two days. I wonder if a modified shotgun box would be the best and easiest solution or if letting them breathe twice a day is enough. His fungus didn't look like it was oxygen deprived. If the closed container is sufficient then outside air may as well be a nonissue.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625765 - 09/08/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The closed air system is a non issue if one were to drill in a hepa filtered air pump, could even be put on a timer for efficiency. Cleaning a fridge although not fun is doable. Spores are already here. Might as well do something with them. Put them in the garden and hope for a wet cool season?
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625773 - 09/08/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Totally got all pumped up and ordered before I fully did my homework.
Dumbass. lol.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625804 - 09/08/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's wrong with a normal sgfc
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625812 - 09/08/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: What's wrong with a normal sgfc
Getting them to fruiting temps in the desert.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625822 - 09/08/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah what temps are we talking im in uk so have no concept of desert heat. Is there no room you can cool a little keep them in there if you can survive out there the mushrooms probably can in the same way you do
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625842 - 09/08/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yesterday it rained and was overcast all day, the high was 95f so 35c. Today it's supposed to be 105f so 40c. In the peak of the heat it's as much as 120f or almost 50c. People die from the heat here every summer. A Brittish dude went for a short day hike and died from heat stroke/dehydration last summer. Pretty hot here, amigo.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625847 - 09/08/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would have to buy a small air conditioning unit and do some modifications to the house to get a whole room to temp. A fridge seems much easier.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625853 - 09/08/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow that's hot well my stuff fruited at 30-35°C that we've seen this year although its not that hot all the time here. Is there no shady area you can put them as long as the get good FAE and don't dry out I'd imagine there won't be much of a problem There no harm in trying the fridge apart from damage to your wallet and potential waste of supplies I'd imagine there will be growers that have had this problem maybe alter the thread title if you can to attract desert dwellers
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625864 - 09/08/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My house stays between 72 and 76, so 22 to 24c. If they'll fruit at that then what the heck am I worried about, haha!
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625869 - 09/08/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live in the desert too and the heat and moisture loss from the dryness always fucked my shit up. I just finished my humidity controlled grow room and I'm about to fruit some tubs in it. It's cooling off now and doesn't matter as much, but next year I'm going to run a small evaporative cooler in there to help fend off the green.
An old coworker of mine had a walk in fridge that she wanted to convert into a mush grow room. As long as it has ventilation and lights it can be outfitted, and the nonporous walls will help with controlling humidity. If you're thinking about growing cold weather woodlovers like blue oysters or azurescens in a regular sized fridge, it might be more trouble than it's worth.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625873 - 09/08/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That would be cool if some other desert dwellers would chime in. I know mushrooms.com is located in the same metropolis so they have to have overcome these obstacles...
I can create and area for them outside and make sure it is shaded and wet. I am afraid the spores will die in the soil. I've never actually taken a temp reading of the dirt but it can't get up to 108 if it's wet and shaded, I'm guessing...?
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625877 - 09/08/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit, thanks NumeroEno... It's not the first time my excitement has bit me in the ass.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625881 - 09/08/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enclosed hydrotank with cool water cycling? I'm reaching now...
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625884 - 09/08/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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rynophyte said: My house stays between 72 and 76, so 22 to 24c. If they'll fruit at that then what the heck am I worried about, haha!
I'm not sure what temp my house is its been colder outside than in my conservatory where my grows are its like an oven its basically a green house with chairs, designed for winter to keep the heat in sort of back fires in summer when I can't get the heat out lol. its been hot this year for us no AC just two big ass fans pointed at me and I'm still sweating horrible at night don't know how you guys live like that I love being cold lucky I live in uk. Just been a mad hot year for us.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625897 - 09/08/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn dude, put in a window ac unit! We have those things all over down here! My genetics dictate that I should live in a climate like yours. Pretty sure Ima have skin cancer as I already have skin issues because of the heat and dry
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625901 - 09/08/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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rynophyte said: My house stays between 72 and 76, so 22 to 24c. If they'll fruit at that then what the heck am I worried about, haha!
those are perfect temps. i keep my house at 75. everything is good. dont forget a colonizing substrate gives off a couple degrees of heat.
what mushroom are you growing? i think(THINK) some woodlovers require cooler temps
fridges can get extremely moldy and you would suffocate your mushrooms.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625906 - 09/08/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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We don't really have them over here and they cost a mega amount of money, I tried to buy one cheap (so I thought) on eBay cheapest I could find was £500 second hand and had issue with it Tbf I was trying to buy it at the top of the heat wave think everyone else had the same idea. It just started getting cooler last week and then it came on the news that this week its gonna start again
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625915 - 09/08/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have azures and Subaeruginosa amongst other reg psilos. From what I've found they want to be fruited almost twenty degrees cooler. There are definitely kinks to work out with the fridge via modifications but I think it can be done. I've built cool rooms and cold rooms for wine distributors before. Kinda like a big fridge.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: NumeroEno]
#23625927 - 09/08/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love the e-cig loop! I've got a ton of parts from e-cigs too! Now how about a self-sterilizing scalpel (would need a lot of thought for that unless you could cut the scalpel in half somehow for a + and - lead)
   
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: Kenetic]
#23625956 - 09/08/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's nutz Mrmazar, I think I could pick one up at the hardware store right now for about 200 american. I feel for ya though man. As a carpenter, I have spent my life working in the heat. When it's real hot you go home after a 10 hr day feeling like youre gunna die. Plus youre perpetually hungry because water takes up 90% of your stomach content, haha!
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625966 - 09/08/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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All that said, just grow cubes dude. Sure, it takes a little more to get there.. But the ease of growing vastly outweighs the difference in potency.
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HAHAHA, well I think Ima take these here syringes and inject them into the dirt up north in the mtns and go check on them after rain and proper temps... DAMNIT!!!
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625975 - 09/08/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Proper trees and desiccating wood area of course...
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23625992 - 09/08/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the contributions, all!
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23626043 - 09/08/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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no don't do that it will do nothing.
Your best chance is inoculating sterilized grain spawn with your spores but it's not worth it if you don't have a cold climate suitable environment. At least for the azures i'm sure the dessert is too warm.
I'm not sure about the other species you mentioned, but as said before these are very difficult nearly impossible especially indoors, unless you live in the right climate.
growing cubes indoors is incredibly easy and more worthwhile
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maybe you can trade those spores for cubes once you have enough posts for the trade section.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: tombosley8]
#23626093 - 09/08/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good suggestion tombosley8, thanks. Within a couple of hours I have access to mountains with a hidden year round spring. It may be temperate enough for them to make it. IDK...
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23626358 - 09/08/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm with tomb. You might as well inject them into the trash can.
Save the spores, grow some cubes and then when you are a little more experienced you can look into growing the azures.
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Ok guys, I will listen to your words of experience. Any of you interested in some syringes? LOL.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23626779 - 09/08/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll take em but I don't think it would be too hard to modify a fridge for that purpose. You just need to miss the coils when you cut through for air intake and exhaust. I intend on modifying a fridge for that very purpose someday.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: NameInUse]
#23626966 - 09/08/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking of drilling into the side for the air pump>inline filter and the check valve/exhuast. Refilling any space between the hoses and holes with silicon or expansion foam. Same thing for lighting cords, or whatever else needs to go in there. The air pump would be on a timer as I'm guessing ten minutes of air to every hour may be enough for exchange. As it will only need to hold 60ish degrees (which I will install a temp controller). If I wanted to make the whole fridge humidity controlled I would need to figure out how to get a controller on the built in dehumidifier. The pics of the shrooms that Mushroom Forest shared in that link in the beginning of the thread didn't look like they were oxygen starved to my eyes. Maybe bags with vents will even help this exchange some whilst waiting to be fanned twice a day. Cleaning will be a pain but once that's done I'm hoping once weekly wipe downs will keep it clean enough.
It would be cool if as a noob I could pioneer the operational fridge system. Maybe I'm pipe dreaming but the idea isn't one hundred percent killed in my head, even after the very rational reasons given for why I shouldn't even bother. I've been lucky with other types of cultivation so I'm hoping I got my geemaa's green/white thumb. If after I get the other more basic systems operational and I don't feel like I need another project I will hit you up about those spores.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23627094 - 09/08/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey man, I started with dried tissue on agar and built an automatic fridge setup that worked great although it wasn't an operational fridge. Noob doesn't mean incapable. With what I did before, I have a general idea of how I would do an operational fridge. You have a pretty good idea of how to set it up, I would avoid drilling as much as possible unless you know exactly how your fridge is designed and where the lines are inside, maybe see if you can find any technical information on it. Specs would also help you disable the dehumidifier. I would also use expanding foam, cut it flush and paint it. I would personally want the freezer to stay warm for jars and controls so mine would have to be set up in a manner where they're separate, traditional fridges have a hole between the freezer and fridge for the cold air to flow down.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: NameInUse]
#23627388 - 09/08/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome suggestions! I picked up the fridge used real cheap and it's an older top freezer so tracking down the tech info may take some time but I'm definitely going to look for it. Fer sure 'bout the foam and I saw pics of other fridges with stuff in the freezer as you suggested and thought that looked pretty slick as well. If I can work around the downward airflow from the freezer as is my understanding as well, for this type of fridge. If I could get it all to work AND get things to grow other than mold that would be pretty cool and stealth. Nobody questions a second fridge in a garage in 'merica!
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23628329 - 09/09/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every heard of anybody inoculating a cut piece of log with azures, gyms, or the like? I was looking at my shitake log this morning and got to wondering...?
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23628516 - 09/09/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking further about the fae issue of working with bags and weighing out the cost/effort/risk of breaking the dehumidifier last night. My wonderment is this. If I were to try the bags with the vents in them I might be able to further force gas exchange by creating positive pressure inside the fridge. I could easily do this by adding one or more lines of incoming air but still only having one exhaust vent of the same size hosing. I'm thinking that by creating higher pressure inside the fridge on a regular basis this will help force gas exchange through the bag vents. I could mitigate doors popping open by using simple and cheap magnetic straps.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#23628526 - 09/09/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or even put and adjustable valve on the exhaust line before the hepa filter and termination. This might also help control humidity as well.
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Re: Growing in an operational refridge [Re: rynophyte]
#25335780 - 07/19/18 04:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why not use mushrooms that don't mind heat. Pink or pheonix oysters?
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Why not look at the age of the thread lol
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