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Offlinebigdoodie
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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23664550 - 09/21/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Emotions are the cause of loneliness.

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IME, most people see sitting quietly, in a sterile room with no audio/video, as a complete lack of input (stimulation).




But the mind constantly generates a massive number of thoughts. Sit quietly and count thoughts. It's incredible.

These thoughts are very stimulating. They can cause a change in breathing and heart-rate.





"My mind is like a bad neighborhood. I try not to go there alone."

Anne Lamott






i agree.  i'd wager the najority of people don't




Perhaps it is unrelated, but why does it matter what the majority do?  Why do people always feel the need to compare themselves to the majority?  Does this give them some form of comfort?




We use the actions of others as examples to justify our views and make ourselves look better. If we were the last person alive, we would not have an opinion.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: TameMe]
    #23666015 - 09/21/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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we need others....with out others we lose literally everything, mental faculties, resources, humanity...




Uh? Based on what?

Jetsumna Tenzin Palmo for instance speant 12 years in isolation. She has some of the most loving words I've ever heard or read and she has moved woman a long ways in Tibetan Buddhism a testament to her mental faculties. Check out: Into the Heart of Life if you're interested.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23666019 - 09/21/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Perhaps it is unrelated, but why does it matter what the majority do?  Why do people always feel the need to compare themselves to the majority?  Does this give them some form of comfort?




It gives me a form of comfort, yes. Intellectual conflicts are fine but emotional ones are much more difficult in the day-to-day. So IMO one has to pay attention to the majority flow if they do not want perpetual emotional conflicts with others. Lacking conflict is a form of comfort IMO.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Kickle]
    #23668709 - 09/22/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have spent a lot of time alone and I enjoyed cannabis due to feeling I had company.  I spent time thinking with people in mind and some was conversational.  It's easy and very difficult to imagine exactly how people would react.  Tv provided some interactive type thinking.  I had yet to learn online forums.  I tend to have life forces or spirits that stick around me.  I am certain I can make a heaven out of my consciousness when I give up on my human self that deals with risk, relax reward.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23668822 - 09/22/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why be certain of something that hasn't yet happened? Seems presumptive or even wishful.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Kickle]
    #23668833 - 09/22/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fantisful


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23668836 - 09/22/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i'm with you then :thumbup:


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Kickle]
    #23668871 - 09/22/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like fantasy but finding fulfilling and perfect fantasy seems hard. I use it to pass the time and to create.  Drugs alter fantasy and I see nothing wrong with that.  Error in fantasy can occur without drugs or mental illness.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23668878 - 09/22/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

no fantasy makes for a dull boy. i know because I can be that dull boy due to often lacking fantasy


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Kickle]
    #23668890 - 09/22/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fantasy always takes parts from reality.  When it is totally real it is science.  Fantasy is where the shaman gets it's magic.  Fantasy may be the afterlife and I have zero problems with that!


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23668901 - 09/22/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i don't disagree
but i don't agree either

someone needs convincing for magic to work
whether that be through misdirection
or straight up force of will

and i've got a pretty strong will so i'm pretty tough to sell
but sometimes I enjoy participating just for the hell of it :thumbup:

I'm outa here hope you have a great night :heart:


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Kickle]
    #23668956 - 09/22/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Magic is just fine alone but to impress people it takes convincing via duplication.  My experience is true magic is not replicable exactly the way it went down.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23669944 - 09/23/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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We use the actions of others as examples to justify our views and make ourselves look better.

If we were the last person alive, we would not have an opinion.






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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23669967 - 09/23/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like to think that when a person is alone with their thoughts long enough it can start to get to them and sometimes those thoughts are too much to bare, or something like that. lol


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: soviet_the_kid]
    #23670250 - 09/23/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That can happen around people to.  Why so many people with anxiety have comping mechanisms.  Social lubricants and such


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23672459 - 09/23/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah maybe it just depends on who you are. Extroverts probably have a harder time being alone than introverts.


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Re: Why are humans afraid of being alone? [Re: soviet_the_kid]
    #23675523 - 09/24/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I like to think that when a person is alone with their thoughts long enough it can start to get to them and sometimes those thoughts are too much to bare, or something like that. lol




well said!

Which begs the question, what is it about or thoughts that's so difficult?

It is the emotions they create?

Why do we need a drink or a pill or a shot or a puff to dull our experience?


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