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Pastywhyte
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You should get that out of your grow space. I would put outside to minimize sporeload while still getting the rest of the flush in hand.
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Kenetic
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You're getting down with the trichness
sorry your grow got disturbed
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Terpfreak
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Re: Crazy pinning! [Re: Kenetic]
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Can you get a better picture of the stems where it's discolored?
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just_curious
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Here is a close up of the fruits 
Also, the tub is outside.
I pulled everything out of that room, and am going to battle with it. I'm arming myself with 10 cans of oust, 10 cans of Lysol, a strong concentration of bleach water, bleach wipes, and Lysol wipes. I'm going to bomb the entire room.
I started my agar all over. And I'm going for a higher temp or longer duration during my CVG prep. I'm going to buy a new bag of verm also.
I honestly don't think it's my agar and don't think it's my grain, I think there's something in the room. But just to be on the safe side, I'm starting from square one. There will be a long, drawn out process of sterilizing my monotubs so I can continue to use them, same goes for my SAB, and same goes for my jars. Carpet is getting shampood in my entire house also. Might be overboard, but I didn't even have this problem as a brand brand new Noob. This is a recent, constant occurring event and I've had enough. Which sucks because this tub is pinning like crazy. Its official...
I'M AT WAR!!!
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Pastywhyte
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I would bet it's your spawn.
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Mushierage
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Keeping it inside is just a bad idea all around.
Keep that thing around and you'll be fucking around with trich for the next two months I'll bet.
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just_curious
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So with the spawn. I did a G2G, and after some jars, I still had some grain left in the donor jar. I put the lid back on it and let it be. I got good invitro pins and no sign of the green. On all my other jars, I inspected them and there are absolutely no metabolites, yellowing, discoloration, and smells great. So unless trich only appears in an open air setting with FAE, then idk how it's my spawn or how it hasn't revealed itself in my spawn. I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying I don't see any signs of it.
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just_curious
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what about those 2 shrooms? are they done for?
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Pastywhyte
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Spawn is tricky. There are people who do this for years that don't know how to spot bad spawn.
  
In the above 5 pics there is clean spawn and bacterial spawn. 3 of the pics are perfectly clean, 2 are lightly bacterial. 1 is very clean but the culture is weak. Can you tell the difference? Only one contamed before the first flush, all others put out at least 2.
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mushboy
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ooo a pasty quiz!!!
id say.... pic 2,4,5 are clean. pic 1 is lightly bacterial?? oh god im going to get flamed for being a nub, right?
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just_curious
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1: Bacterial 2: Clean 3: Bacterial 4: Clean (weak) 5:Clean
Probably way off. But I definitely like this. You should make a sticky'd post like this and update every month. Like a check on learning. Like you said, they are hard to I.D. Especially when they aren't putting out any metabolites and also through photos. Burst my bubble, how shitty did I do?
Also, do I need to pull those 2 mushrooms pictured above do to contamination? I really don't think it's bruising.
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Terpfreak
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Thats not bruising. Shut it down. Shut it all down.
No bit in all seriousness, there's a contam board and thread where you might be helped a little faster.
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Terpfreak
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If you're going to get rid of a contammed area , there are ways to do that- however you will still need to separate the box its in from your house/anywhere near anything you use to grow with.
Just be careful if you plan on separating the infected, a non cooled sterilized scapel could spread whatever that is in steam.
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just_curious
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Not when there is only 2 people viewing lol. That's the only 2 that it's happening to. RR made a post in another thread where he stated that green mold was 100% harmless to consume...as long as your not snorting the spores like lines of Coke lol.
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just_curious
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Quote:
Terpfreak said: If you're going to get rid of a contammed area , there are ways to do that- however you will still need to separate the box its in from your house/anywhere near anything you use to grow with.
Just be careful if you plan on separating the infected, a non cooled sterilized scapel could spread whatever that is in steam.
What would you suggest. Cut the trich out and patch with salt and hit up the area with a spray or 2 of bleach water since it doesn't harm the actual fruits, and then simply plucking the contamed shrooms? The tub is outside, so I'm not worried about it spreading in my grow area. I need this flush to happen. I'm 100 grams away from my quota, and don't have enough time to start again.
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Terpfreak
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I'd leave it all alone so you don't spread more of that shit. and collect the healthy ones.
, you might have hope but just stop it right now because theres no hope.
Seriously though, if its showing up on your mushies like that it's probably already in your sub in larger concentrations. The process of infection i guess you could say, has already ended.
Just hope your ass off that you get a few that haven't been interfered with.
I understand it sucks to lose something you put a lot of time into, but a lot of people would just set the tub on fire 100 miles from their place of grow.
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just_curious
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I found this comment from RR. What do you think.
RogerRabbit said: quote: "well, once your cake or casing has mold in it, so do the mushies, so yes, you are eating mold. The mushies are made up of and grow on the mycelium network. That network carries nutes to the mushies, it also carries the contam to the mushies. So if there is mold on your casing, it is also in the mushi."
My friend, that is totally false and goes against everything we've learned about how mycelium works. Mushrooms are not like plants where the mycelium is the root. It simply doesn't work that way. The mycelium metabolizes the food it 'eats'. When you go to paul stamets seminars he covers this myth in depth. He has used mycelium to clean up diesel oil spills and other toxic waste dumps and the mushrooms are completely edible and free of all toxins from the soil as established by rigorous testing with gas chromatography.
For those of you who are afraid of moldy cakes, be sure to never eat cheese, because cheese can not be made without mold. Very thick layers of mold are cut off the blocks of cheese to give them eye-appeal for the market. The cheese is safe, believe me. You've all eaten cheese all your lives.
Now, that being said, I immediately throw away any contaminated substrate as soon as I see it. The danger is in polluting my growing environment with the released spores that will contaminate future projects. However, any mushrooms on the substrate are 100% safe to eat. That is a fact. We seriously need less disinformation and fear mongering. If anyone can produce evidence from one of the established university mycological programs such as Penn State, or anything Stamets has written on the subject I will gladly eat my words. I have done serious research into this. Green molds are common in commercial mushroom operations, so if you eat store bought edible mushrooms, you are very often eating mushrooms from substrates with molds. There is not mold in the fruitbody. They are 100% safe.
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Pastywhyte
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Answer is. . .
Clean Bacterial Clean Clean (weak) Bacterial
All went for at least 2 flushes except the last one which triched out before the first flush. It can be hard to see or smell. You need to look for many things.
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Terpfreak
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All I have to say is that I would personally pick the healthy ones and throw the thing away alomg with any of the shrooms that have the mystery mold ln it. (Mystery mold because idk what it is)
RR isnt saying it's okay to eat moldy shrooms. He's saying moldy substrate doesn't mean your shrooms are infected. However we can clearly see that's not the case here? Which means it's probably spored everywhere - and you will have a low rate of healthy shrooms.
I'm not sure what you want to know at this point.
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just_curious
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I don't need to know anything else lol. Maybe I could post a pic of my jars and you guys could let me know if thats the issue. Pasty, what are the things that you look at on these jars that let know they are ridden with bacteria. Did you know by looking at them, or did you know when you realized that your bulk was going to shit. Is there any key things that you are seeing in those jars?
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