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Mushierage
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Oats for the livestock
#23621831 - 09/07/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This post is mostly for Inocuole to answer, but if anybody has any experience with these, feel free to weigh in.
Inocuole, went to tsc today like you suggested and upon browsing for oats to feed my livestock with, came across these.

Read through your oat tek and I'm definitely interested in trying this. Plus it's like 13 bucks for a 50lb bag, much better price than I can seem to get anywhere else aside from going directly to a mill and getting grain there.
Would you recommend this brand? And if so, am I gonna need whole oats or rolled? Never used oats before so I'm kinda oat dumb.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621861 - 09/07/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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should just DM him.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: RealmLAir]
#23621867 - 09/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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RealmLAir said: should just PM him.
Or not. Inocuole asks that cult questions be posted in the open. Also I'd like for others to be able to weigh in.
Beyond that, anybody that sees this and has a similar question may benefit from it.
So no, respectfully, I should not pm him.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: RealmLAir]
#23621890 - 09/07/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: amidogen]
#23621904 - 09/07/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now that you mention it, I do also remember seeing something about Producers Pride having issues with contamination.
Maybe I should just head to the mill and see what they have. Hell, I may even be able to get a better deal, and also find some rye berries which TSC does not have in stock.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621913 - 09/07/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Been through many bags of that, you do not want rolled oats, buy the bag to the left
I preped mine by dumping boiling water over it and waiting 45 minutes.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621923 - 09/07/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i believe i saw you want 'race horse' quality oats.???
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The intention is to follow the tek Inoc has outlined in his sig. If I'm going to be working with oats, id really like to be able to work with it as easily as possible, and not have it all starchy as shit and sticking together. I hate when my jars do that.
I want to be able to bap the jar and watch it crumble apart and not fool around with shaking like a wild epileptic, and the water content of my jars/bags to be within acceptable limits.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: mushboy]
#23621937 - 09/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i believe i saw you want 'race horse' quality oats.???
I personally don't know the difference but I'm assuming the oats have been treated or something to kill the bacteria in it.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621946 - 09/07/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ideally you wouldnt need to hit it at all for the grain to seperate after pc.
Have fun. Remember bags need a lot less moisture content than jars.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621948 - 09/07/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I recommend looking for race horse oats, as they're reputed to be cleaner and less prone to bacterial problems than the producers pride whole oats
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Mushierage said: ....shaking like a wild epileptic, and the water content of my jars/bags to be within acceptable limits.
hahah yah i get you.. you might of saw in a post but i gave my self a black eye hitting a jar of clumpy wbs on a bike tire and it hit me back :p
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: mushboy]
#23621960 - 09/07/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha, the fuck?
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23621976 - 09/07/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the main reason race horse oats are used is because they come with the hull and have a slightly better value when it comes to starch. Oats contains 7% to 9.5% digestible protein and 60 starch units (100 oats units) so they have more energy in them and I believe starch is an important nutrient for the cultivation of mycelium. Plus more bang for your buck. I think they also specifically ''clean'' them more so you're less likely to get contams from the get go. I believe triple clean treat their whole oats specifically to eliminate aflatoxins and dust particles in the oats
People here love horses and keep them mostly for the races, lots of feed stores 
I also found out that grain jars are a lot easier to break apart after they have been refrigerated for a while, at least in my experience. I started doing it to all my jars before spawning and leave them over night at about 38F and break them in the morning when the myc is a little more tense. Literally, 3 smacks to the jar and that colonized gain is broken up
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#23622022 - 09/07/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whole oats. No experience with that brand, though.
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filthyknees said: Been through many bags of that, you do not want rolled oats, buy the bag to the left
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Mushierage
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Well, no harm in trying them I guess.....Except that producers pride might realistically contam all the jars I try it with. They don't have a smaller bag than 50lbs so I can test it on a few jars.
50lbs. That's fuckin commitment right there.
I think I'm gonna try the mill and get a 20lb bag of rye, and 20lb of whole "race horse" oats. I asked the guy at TSC about this mill and apparently they can weigh up any amount of grain I like, bag it up, and sell it to me by the pound.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage] 1
#23622306 - 09/07/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've tried both rye and oats and definitely prefer oats. They're more forgiving and a lot cheaper. The last bag of rye I bought put me off it forever. It was riddled with ergot and it all went bacterial, no matter what kind of sterilization process I used. It was like 50 bucks worth of useless shit. Now I get locally produced racehorse oats for 15 bucks a bag. They're super clean and I never have trouble with them. Oats ftw.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23622361 - 09/07/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bought a bag of producer's pride forgetting the fine print in Inocuole's tek and rolled with it anyway. So far I've got 3 quarts of clean spawn about done. Seems to be fine after spending 1.5-2hrs at 15psi
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23622998 - 09/07/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The oats are not just for the livestock.
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wtfcrazymofo said: The oats are not just for the livestock.
Not sure if you are being serious, or if you completely missed my brand of humor and sarcasm.
Either way, your response made me laugh.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23623439 - 09/07/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya I made a thread and like FC, noc said the same rolled oats are no bueno cause my feed store has whole oats (reclaimed) rolled oats and crimped they said the rolled oats are steamed and with not grow so I figured that means no nutes left ?? And the crimped are steamed and crimped also no good I love oats they are cheap and quick and easy I'm in the PC within an hour of prepping
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The more I hear about the success of oats, the more inclined I am to try them out. I hear good things all the time.
I will have a shit ton of oats by tomorrow afternoon. Guess my PC is about to get some near constant love tomorrow night. She likes having her shit packed.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23623521 - 09/07/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha ya mine too don't over prep tho as in too many I can fit 10 a run and I had almost 50 jars it took me two days and I think the last few jars were fermenting I usually make twenty at a time now which is 10 myco qts give or take but besides that I've never had issues
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I got ya. I intend on prepping about 10 mycological qts for right now. I have 3 variants I'll be working with, is I'm going to do 3 jars apiece, with a 1:2 ratio bulk sub. Should be plenty for each mono.
The last jar I'm not sure what I'll do with yet. Maybe I'll try my hand at starting a small outdoor patch or something. Dunno.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23623555 - 09/07/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or keep it for a master just in case a few tubs get funky I always try and have 25 jars just in case shit happens I've left myself dry before and had to over work just to wait you know ?
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True. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23623606 - 09/07/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya man no worries
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This stuff worked great!
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: shamanamba]
#23625786 - 09/08/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I'm set for awhile. Got the race horse oats, 50lbs for 9 bucks. Hellllll yeah.

Also, I had some extra cash this week. Soooo... I decided to get some other supplies. Maybe I went overboard just a little...
 
And an extra one of these

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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23625789 - 09/08/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hell ya man I do that every time then realize my mortgage was due haha
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That's due next week. 
Also ordered 4 ounces of MEA. That's what a lot of these smaller containers are meant for, sterilizing agar.
Can't fuckin wait. By this time next week I should have pleeeeeeenty of spawn colonizing
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23626535 - 09/08/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Went ahead and started prepping some oats in the exact way outlined in Inocuoles tek. I estimate that there is probably 4-5 quarts worth soaking in my pressure cooker.
I am periodically checking them to see if the middle is grey, it's at about hour 4 of the soak, and the tek calls for 6 hours minimum.
I am going to work in pasty plates into this project as well, I have 6 round snall tupperwares which would be perfect for this.
I am however interested in making an LI with one of these containers by putting a little pour spout on it for super fast colonization. Does anybody have any experience with blender less LI with colonized agar and can maybe point me in the right direction?
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23626554 - 09/08/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats fuckin decent
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: mushboy]
#23626874 - 09/08/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found Munchausenz Blenderless LI tek, so I'm going to be using this in conjunction with pasty plates on at least one or two of my cultures.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314#22833314
Ideally, I'd like to get several quarts colonized as quickly as possible so I can get some bulk subs colonized, because I have nothing in my FCs atm
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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
#23626951 - 09/08/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just picked up 40 sticks oof agar from the Asian mart for 18$ cheap cheap ... I used munchs tek it's quick and easy if you use enough water you don't even need to shake it
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