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Oats for the livestock
    #23621831 - 09/07/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This post is mostly for Inocuole to answer, but if anybody has any experience with these, feel free to weigh in.

Inocuole, went to tsc today like you suggested and upon browsing for oats to feed my livestock with, came across these.



Read through your oat tek and I'm definitely interested in trying this.  Plus it's like 13 bucks for a 50lb bag, much better price than I can seem to get anywhere else aside from going directly to a mill and getting grain there. 

Would you recommend this brand?  And if so, am I gonna need whole oats or rolled?  Never used oats before so I'm kinda oat dumb.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621861 - 09/07/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

should just DM him.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: RealmLAir]
    #23621867 - 09/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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should just PM him.




Or not.  Inocuole asks that cult questions be posted in the open.  Also I'd like for others to be able to weigh in.

Beyond that, anybody that sees this and has a similar question may benefit from it.

So no, respectfully, I should not pm him.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: RealmLAir]
    #23621890 - 09/07/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: amidogen]
    #23621904 - 09/07/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Now that you mention it, I do also remember seeing something about Producers Pride having issues with contamination. 

Maybe I should just head to the mill and see what they have.  Hell, I may even be able to get a better deal, and also find some rye berries which TSC does not have in stock.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621913 - 09/07/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Been through many bags of that, you do not want rolled oats, buy the bag to the left

I preped mine by dumping boiling water over it and waiting 45 minutes.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621923 - 09/07/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i believe i saw you want 'race horse' quality oats.???:rolleyes:


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: filthyknees]
    #23621934 - 09/07/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The intention is to follow the tek Inoc has outlined in his sig. If I'm going to be working with oats, id really like to be able to work with it as easily as possible, and not have it all starchy as shit and sticking together.  I hate when my jars do that. 

I want to be able to bap the jar and watch it crumble apart and not fool around with shaking like a wild epileptic, and the water content of my jars/bags to be within acceptable limits.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: mushboy]
    #23621937 - 09/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i believe i saw you want 'race horse' quality oats.???:rolleyes:




I personally don't know the difference but I'm assuming the oats have been treated or something to kill the bacteria in it.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621946 - 09/07/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ideally you wouldnt need to hit it at all for the grain to seperate after pc.

Have fun. Remember bags need a lot less moisture content than jars.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621948 - 09/07/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I recommend looking for race horse oats, as they're reputed to be cleaner and less prone to bacterial problems than the producers pride whole oats






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Mushierage said:
....shaking like a wild epileptic, and the water content of my jars/bags to be within acceptable limits.




hahah yah i get you..
you might of saw in a post but i gave my self a black eye hitting a jar
of clumpy wbs on a bike tire and it hit me back :p


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: mushboy]
    #23621960 - 09/07/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

haha, the fuck?

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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23621976 - 09/07/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think the main reason race horse oats are used is because they come with the hull and have a slightly better value when it comes to starch. Oats contains 7% to 9.5% digestible protein and 60 starch units (100 oats units) so they have more energy in them and I believe starch is an important nutrient for the cultivation of mycelium. Plus more bang for your buck. I think they also specifically ''clean'' them more so you're less likely to get contams from the get go. I believe triple clean treat their whole oats specifically to eliminate aflatoxins and dust particles in the oats

People here love horses and keep them mostly for the races, lots of feed stores :biggrin:

I also found out that grain jars are a lot easier to break apart after they have been refrigerated for a while, at least in my experience. I started doing it to all my jars before spawning and leave them over night at about 38F and break them in the morning when the myc is a little more tense. Literally, 3 smacks to the jar and that colonized gain is broken up


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23622022 - 09/07/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Whole oats. :thumbup: No experience with that brand, though.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: filthyknees]
    #23622197 - 09/07/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Been through many bags of that, you do not want rolled oats, buy the bag to the left




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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: spacechildo]
    #23622269 - 09/07/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, no harm in trying them I guess.....Except that producers pride might realistically contam all the jars I try it with.  They don't have a smaller bag than 50lbs so I can test it on a few jars. 

50lbs.  That's fuckin commitment right there. 


I think I'm gonna try the mill and get a 20lb bag of rye, and 20lb of whole "race horse" oats.  I asked the guy at TSC about this mill and apparently they can weigh up any amount of grain I like, bag it up, and sell it to me by the pound.

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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage] * 1
    #23622306 - 09/07/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've tried both rye and oats and definitely prefer oats. They're more forgiving and a lot cheaper. The last bag of rye I bought put me off it forever. It was riddled with ergot and it all went bacterial, no matter what kind of sterilization process I used. It was like 50 bucks worth of useless shit. Now I get locally produced racehorse oats for 15 bucks a bag. They're super clean and I never have trouble with them. Oats ftw.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23622361 - 09/07/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I bought a bag of producer's pride forgetting the fine print in Inocuole's tek and rolled with it anyway. So far I've got 3 quarts of clean spawn about done. Seems to be fine after spending 1.5-2hrs at 15psi


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: Mushierage]
    #23622998 - 09/07/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The oats are not just for the livestock.


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Re: Oats for the livestock [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23623188 - 09/07/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The oats are not just for the livestock.




Not sure if you are being serious, or if you completely missed my brand of humor and sarcasm. 


Either way, your response made me laugh.


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